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wadesworld

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 03, 2019, 09:14:05 PM
Had we won the Nova game, we could still clinch the title outright with one more win. Had we won the Creighton game, we would've needed to win two games remaining. Easier to win one than two, thus Nova was the most important to date so far.

You can play that game all day. Every game counts for either a win or a loss. Doesn't matter when they come. Which is why the game in front of you matters the most. And why we don't control our own destiny to an outright BE title anymore. Didn't even take a loss at Nova (which was expected by all models) to get us there. It took today's home Creighton loss (which every model had us winning) to get there. There aren't a limited amount of wins out there in sports. You are allowed to win your last 3 games. Don't have to choose 2 of your 3 remaining games.

brewcity77

But it did take a Nova loss. Had we won the Nova game, we would be one game away from clinching outright despite Creighton. Because we lost the Nova game, any other loss took it out of our control.

You can play the "everything matters the same" game all day all day. That doesn't make it true. And the true beauty is you know that. You know you're wrong. You know the numbers bear that out. You know fans looking ahead has no impact. But because you backed yourself into this corner once upon a time you perpetuate this inanity.

wadesworld

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 06, 2019, 05:54:07 AM
But it did take a Nova loss. Had we won the Nova game, we would be one game away from clinching outright despite Creighton. Because we lost the Nova game, any other loss took it out of our control.

You can play the "everything matters the same" game all day all day. That doesn't make it true. And the true beauty is you know that. You know you're wrong. You know the numbers bear that out. You know fans looking ahead has no impact. But because you backed yourself into this corner once upon a time you perpetuate this inanity.

So 14-4 isn't the same as...14-4? The math bares that out? Yup, if that's the case then yes I backed into a corner and am insane lol.

The Providence game was the biggest game of the season going into it because you can't beat someone you aren't playing (Nova, for example) and you can't go back and change a past result (St. John's, for example). You can keep saying Nova is the biggest game of the season and pretending we get to pick which games are won and which are lost, but the reality is you go play every game and no matter the result of previous games, you can win or lose every game you get to. There is no choosing one or the other. It's competing in both. Once we got past Nova it was done. We lost, no matter how hard the fans try to argue it would've been better to win that game than any other game on the schedule. Too bad, we didn't, no sense in having that be more important than the game we actually have to play next, because when you do you no show and drop a game you were expected to win. Following Providence, had MU won the games they were expected to and lost the ones they were expected to they would've been outright BE champs after a loss at Nova. Seems like Nova was no more important than the Creighton game to me. No showed against Creighton and now have to battle just to split s BE title. Let's hope the team isn't still down after losing the biggest game of their season. Maybe that was the problem. Lost the biggest game of the season and said, "Well, screw it. The rest aren't as important. We can't accomplish anything anymore."

Seton Hall biggest game of the season.

brewcity77

Math:

MU vs Nova: +1 in standings for MU win, +1 in standings for Nova loss. Total: +2

MU vs anyone else: +1 in standings for MU win.

When you are directly competing with only one team for positioning, games against them are by default the most important. Math wins again. And you know it.

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Quote from: brewcity77 on March 06, 2019, 07:29:19 AM
Math:

MU vs Nova: +1 in standings for MU win, +1 in standings for Nova loss. Total: +2

MU vs anyone else: +1 in standings for MU win.

When you are directly competing with only one team for positioning, games against them are by default the most important. Math wins again. And you know it.

Give it up, Brew. Of course Wades is dead wrong. I suspect even he knows it - everybody else certainly does.

Bocephys

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 06, 2019, 07:29:19 AM
Math:

MU vs Nova: +1 in standings for MU win, +1 in standings for Nova loss. Total: +2

MU vs anyone else: +1 in standings for MU win.

When you are directly competing with only one team for positioning, games against them are by default the most important. Math wins again. And you know it.


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wadesworld

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 06, 2019, 07:29:19 AM
Math:

MU vs Nova: +1 in standings for MU win, +1 in standings for Nova loss. Total: +2

MU vs anyone else: +1 in standings for MU win.

When you are directly competing with only one team for positioning, games against them are by default the most important. Math wins again. And you know it.

So when Xavier and Nova were directly competing for one position last year and Nova went 2-0 against Xavier...? Oh. Math is hard I guess.

With their sweep of UVA Duke has to be well ahead in the AC...err...

You play 18 games. Every one of them counts. Not just 2 games in the 18 game season.

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