NCAA Top 4 Seed Release 2/9

[HowardsWorld]

Put this in the bacteriology thread but figured it could use its own thread since there will be discussion after Saturday moving forward to selection Sunday.

On Saturday (12:30 p.m. ET on CBS), the men's basketball committee will release its top 16 teams (through Friday's games) on the 3rd annual Bracket Preview Show.

This reveal will be very interesting compared to the past two years since Net Ranking will be the new tool to help evaluate teams. I fully expect Marquette to be on the 4 line but if not we can gauge how much Net Rankings truly mean. Will also be interesting from to see what a team like Nevada will be since their resume isn't that of a top 4 seed. Lots of questions will get answered on Saturday.

[DoctorV]

This is a really nice pregame event for the National Marquette Day festivities, and will be even better if we win tomorrow.

Plenty of drinking games can be had. I, for one, look forward to making the most of this. Also, someone should let the committee know that it's NMD so they can give MU the little boost that they deserve on such a day!

[MU82]

Agree that this should help answer some questions about what NET will show and how the committee will use it.

Excited to win tomorrow, see where we stand Saturday early afternoon and then build on it by whuppin' Nova on NMD!

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Normally I scoff at this production,  but with Marquette possibly being listed I'm actually a little excited this year.

[PGsHeroes32]

Normally I scoff at this production,  but with Marquette possibly being listed I'm actually a little excited this year.

Would be quite the travesty if we aren't listed

Beat St John's and I'll be pretty ticked if we are not at least a 3

[HowardsWorld]

Would be quite the travesty if we aren't listed

Beat St John's and I'll be pretty ticked if we are not at least a 3

I actually wrote the original post as a 3 seed and changed it to a 4 based on where they are in Net Ranking. I do believe they are a 3 seed right now but if you got strictly on net ranking order they are 5 seed. We know based on RPI that they never rank the S curve strictly by RPI position which is why I bumped it up to a 4 but who really knows. If you look at T-Rank they are 32 so its possible we don't even see them on the Saturday. But thankfully all the questions i posed will be answered.

[HowardsWorld]

Every metric also has our rival to the west ahead of us by a decent margin. 6 in Net Ranking and 17 in T-Rank. They also have 3 more losses than us and lost the head to head match up.  Would not be surprised to see them on the 4 line. If that is true it will show how our conference is viewed as a whole and probably not in a good way.

[PGsHeroes32]

I actually wrote the original post as a 3 seed and changed it to a 4 based on where they are in Net Ranking. I do believe they are a 3 seed right now but if you got strictly on net ranking order they are 5 seed. We know based on RPI that they never rank the S curve strictly by RPI position which is why I bumped it up to a 4 but who really knows. If you look at T-Rank they are 32 so its possible we don't even see them on the Saturday. But thankfully all the questions i posed will be answered.

Yup we definitely could be a 4, I don't thinj we should be with a SJU win but we could be. Would be nuts if we are not a top 4 tho.

We got a quality resume. Lots of wins. Very few losses. And we'd have that top 10 ranking too(doesn't mean anything for seeding but puts us more in the eyes of discussion)

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Would be quite the travesty if we aren't listed

Beat St John's and I'll be pretty ticked if we are not at least a 3

I should've said strong possibility.   I think MU is a 3 with a win against St. John's and a 4 with a loss.

But with the NET, I am not sure what the committee will value most.  Maybe the committee only has Marquette as 4 right now. So a loss to St. John's could make Marquette drop from a 4 to a 5.

I would be absolutely stunned to see Marquette as a 2 seed.  MU doesn't have enough Q1A wins.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Every metric also has our rival to the west ahead of us by a decent margin. 6 in Net Ranking and 17 in T-Rank. They also have 3 more losses than us and lost the head to head match up.  Would not be surprised to see them on the 4 line. If that is true it will show how our conference is viewed as a whole and probably not in a good way.

Predictive metrics favor Wisconsin but Marquette is higher in resumè based metrics KPI and SOR.

[TallTitan34]

I wonder if the loss puts us on the border of making this show?

[BM1090]

I wonder if the loss puts us on the border of making this show?

I'm guessing 3 seed still. Could be 4. Would be very surprised if we were left off. The resumes of projected 5 seeds really don't compare.

[TallTitan34]

The resumes of projected 5 seeds really don't compare.

That's a good point.  There is a decent gap behind us.

[Bocephys]

That's a good point.  There is a decent gap behind us.

Soft Top 16 show bubble, aina?

[HowardsWorld]

I wanted that 2 seed more than anything but if we don't get the two, it makes no difference to me if we get a 3,4,5,6 seed.  The first game while never a given as a 3,4,5,6 should be a mid major that we should beat. The round of 32 is when the real match ups happen. playing a 3-6 seed are all about the same to me. This team can still outscore anyone imo. Last night was just one of those nights.

[Norm]

Wouldn't the drop in NET rankings affect the Top 4 seeds projection?

[HowardsWorld]

Wouldn't the drop in NET rankings affect the Top 4 seeds projection?

No one knows how much stock the committee are going to place on Net Rankings. If they go strictly on net ranking MU is a 9 seed so I really doubt they go 100% on net.

[MU82]

I wanted that 2 seed more than anything but if we don't get the two, it makes no difference to me if we get a 3,4,5,6 seed.  The first game while never a given as a 3,4,5,6 should be a mid major that we should beat. The round of 32 is when the real match ups happen. playing a 3-6 seed are all about the same to me. This team can still outscore anyone imo. Last night was just one of those nights.

I like the 3 more than the 4 or 5 because I usually want to put off facing the 1 as long as possible. Heck, one could argue that the 6 is better than the 5 or even 4 if one thinks one's team has a legit chance at making a run.

As for the seeding reveal, it will be even more interesting now to see if we're a top-4.

[MarquetteDano]

No one knows how much stock the committee are going to place on Net Rankings. If they go strictly on net ranking MU is a 9 seed so I really doubt they go 100% on net.

I assume you meant 6 seed as we are currently 21.  That translates to #6.

[HowardsWorld]

I like the 3 more than the 4 or 5 because I usually want to put off facing the 1 as long as possible. Heck, one could argue that the 6 is better than the 5 or even 4 if one thinks one's team has a legit chance at making a run.

As for the seeding reveal, it will be even more interesting now to see if we're a top-4.

If we had won last night I would have bet my life that we were on the list as a 2, 3, or 4. Now I don't have a clue. I am hopeful and they surely deserve to be based on resume and only 4 losses but stranger things have happened.

[HowardsWorld]

I assume you meant 6 seed as we are currently 21.  That translates to #6.

I meant 9 but I used t-rank not net ranking. Clicked on the wrong site.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

I still think Marquette is right in the 10-15 range overall,  so a 3 or 4 seed right now.

We will have to see how the committee values NET vs quadrant wins.  Marquette has 4 Q1B wins, and a couple Q1A.

The NET might drag us down a bit but our quality wins should be enough to be a 4 seed at this point.

[muguru]

I still think Marquette is right in the 10-15 range overall,  so a 3 or 4 seed right now.

We will have to see how the committee values NET vs quadrant wins.  Marquette has 4 Q1B wins, and a couple Q1A.

The NET might drag us down a bit but our quality wins should be enough to be a 4 seed at this point.

This is why the loss last night stings so much..had they won that and theb eat Nova Saturday, combined with MSU's struggles, MU very well might have been a two seed fairly easily. They could still get a #2 I suppose, but the margin for error is much thinner now and probably involves winning out(including BE tourney). At face value, sure it's one loss, but when you really break it down and think about the potential future ramifications(NCAA seeding), it's a devastating loss.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I'd be willing to bet that if we lost one more game and won out (including the BET) we would be a 2 seed. May even be in conversations for a 1 seed. Hell I think we could lose 2 more games (including BET) and still earn a 2 seed. We aren't the only team at the top that is going to lose games the rest of the way.

[#UnleashSean]

I'd be willing to bet that if we lost one more game and won out (including the BET) we would be a 2 seed. May even be in conversations for a 1 seed. Hell I think we could lose 2 more games (including BET) and still earn a 2 seed. We aren't the only team at the top that is going to lose games the rest of the way.

Maybe a 2, I dont see road to a 1 seed this year. The big east is really weak outside of the top 3.