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Re: Opponents not looking great of late
« Reply #300 on: January 19, 2019, 01:46:08 PM »
Watched it live, team celebrated at center Court and it was all media around them at first. Then the first couple kids jogged out there, then the second wave trotted.

I really don't think the students were looking to rush. By the time they cut to the studio, barely 1/3rd of the court was covered.

Just kinda awkward.

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Re: Opponents not looking great of late
« Reply #301 on: January 19, 2019, 01:50:36 PM »
I am not sure the atmosphere at that building was something that will get recruits all that excited.  Saw most of the game and it was slow, boring and quiet.  Nice win for Madison.

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Re: Opponents not looking great of late
« Reply #302 on: January 19, 2019, 01:52:49 PM »
Nice win by Wisky.  Hope they enjoy, because next year they might be cellar dwellers without that fella Happ.  He had 26, 11 bounds, 7 assists and 2 steals. 

They beat the possible #1 in country  at the time and had won 31 of last 32, rush the court, party all night, MU would do the same.  Enjoy it now.

As we know, when a team loses their star player, the team becomes lost and massively underperforms.

Oh wait...

Happ is a great college player and will be difficult to replace, but Reuvers has a decent inside/outside game and King and Trice are solid guys.  Not saying that they are S16 level next year by any stretch, but to write them off because they are losing one guy is a tad bit premature.

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Re: Opponents not looking great of late
« Reply #303 on: January 19, 2019, 01:53:39 PM »
4+ years ago accomplishment means you can't be a 3 point underdog?  Look at how many Final Four teams the last 20 years haven't even made it back to the NCAA tournament the next year and lost plenty. 4+ years ago has nothing to do with this year's team.

Only takes 1 year to go from Final Four to out of the NCAA Tournament, hey? The Tanned one and you have probably talked about that many times over dinner.
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Re: Opponents not looking great of late
« Reply #304 on: January 19, 2019, 01:56:45 PM »
As we know, when a team loses their star player, the team becomes lost and massively underperforms.

Oh wait...

Happ is a great college player and will be difficult to replace, but Reuvers has a decent inside/outside game and King and Trice are solid guys.  Not saying that they are S16 level next year by any stretch, but to write them off because they are losing one guy is a tad bit premature.

Trice and King were non factors.  Reuvers was fine.  This isn't a Bo Ryan team where one of those guys makes a big leap as they become the man.  The talent in Madison is thin

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Re: Opponents not looking great of late
« Reply #305 on: January 19, 2019, 02:02:26 PM »
As we know, when a team loses their star player, the team becomes lost and massively underperforms.

Oh wait...

Happ is a great college player and will be difficult to replace, but Reuvers has a decent inside/outside game and King and Trice are solid guys.  Not saying that they are S16 level next year by any stretch, but to write them off because they are losing one guy is a tad bit premature.

Trice has been terrible every game I watch since we played them.

Anytime he tries to create for himself is a laughable shot. Usually a missed layup.

He’s good catching and shooting out of the Happ double.
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Re: Opponents not looking great of late
« Reply #306 on: January 19, 2019, 02:15:17 PM »
Only takes 1 year to go from Final Four to out of the NCAA Tournament, hey? The Tanned one and you have probably talked about that many times over dinner.

We have not talked about that, though I did send my condolences to him and his family yesterday at the loss of his mother.

And yes, it only takes one year and there are a number of examples of it over the years.  Loyola of Chicago could be the latest school to join Louisville (twice, not even counting vacancies), Marquette, NC State, Kansas, UCONN, Butler, George Mason, etc, etc

Just as there are teams, very rarely, picked to win a major conference that can't even qualify for the NIT.  That doesn't happen very much as the predictions are done in that year, unless a major injury happens.

That's why they play the games, eh?
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Re: Opponents not looking great of late
« Reply #307 on: January 19, 2019, 02:17:59 PM »
Trice and King were non factors.  Reuvers was fine.  This isn't a Bo Ryan team where one of those guys makes a big leap as they become the man.  The talent in Madison is thin

Trice struggling, King second on team in rebounds today and a clutch 3 pointer.
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« Reply #308 on: January 19, 2019, 02:36:46 PM »
Because thats for teams that haven't been there before. Wisconsin was 4 mins away from a National Championship 3 years ago. It's embarrassing imo.

So was our court rush against Villanova embarrassing? Personally, I loved it
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« Reply #309 on: January 19, 2019, 02:58:27 PM »
Down goes Kansas to 9-9 West Virginia. Mountaineers storm the court. LaGerald Vick with about the worst shot attempt to try and win the game that could be possible.

Doesn't help us from a computer numbers perspective....but it gets us a little closer to passing them in the rankings.
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Re: Opponents not looking great of late
« Reply #310 on: January 19, 2019, 03:03:59 PM »
I've watched documentaries where they talk with the guys that set the lines at various casinos who have said the opposite of this.  If there are 10 teams they have to take points from those 10 teams would fail to cover at a higher percentage each and every year.  If you look at the data how teams cover...it doesnt paint that picture.  If it did...it would be the easiest $ in the world.  They can set a line for 3pts...watch it move because a bunch of fans bet and watch it come back as the real betters take advantage.  There are betters that purposely bet to move the line on a low profile game and then bet against their initial bet as it's a better deal then buying points.

In additon...they said they will hold a line at times if they believe it's a good bet for them.  Taking the 5%, or whatever it is, is not the only way they choose to make $...legally it has to be a game of luck so it's an interesting predicament.

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Re: Opponents not looking great of late
« Reply #311 on: January 19, 2019, 03:04:33 PM »
We have not talked about that, though I did send my condolences to him and his family yesterday at the loss of his mother.

And yes, it only takes one year and there are a number of examples of it over the years.  Loyola of Chicago could be the latest school to join Louisville (twice, not even counting vacancies), Marquette, NC State, Kansas, UCONN, Butler, George Mason, etc, etc

Just as there are teams, very rarely, picked to win a major conference that can't even qualify for the NIT.  That doesn't happen very much as the predictions are done in that year, unless a major injury happens.

That's why they play the games, eh?

Hey we're on both the follow up a Final Four by missing the tournament and be picked to win a major conference but don't even make the NIT lists. How many programs get that honour?
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Re: Opponents not looking great of late
« Reply #312 on: January 19, 2019, 03:13:10 PM »
That’s the reason Chico’s posted it.

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Re: Opponents not looking great of late
« Reply #313 on: January 19, 2019, 03:35:38 PM »
Trice has been terrible every game I watch since we played them.

Anytime he tries to create for himself is a laughable shot. Usually a missed layup.

He’s good catching and shooting out of the Happ double.

Which is why I said they were solid, not great.  Davisson despite his warts, is a decent guy too.  Again, I could see them winning 18-20 games next year and being on the bubble.

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« Reply #314 on: January 19, 2019, 03:42:44 PM »
Which is why I said they were solid, not great.  Davisson despite his warts, is a decent guy too.  Again, I could see them winning 18-20 games next year and being on the bubble.

Without Happ?
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Re: Opponents not looking great of late
« Reply #315 on: January 19, 2019, 03:45:12 PM »
Down goes Kansas to 9-9 West Virginia. Mountaineers storm the court. LaGerald Vick with about the worst shot attempt to try and win the game that could be possible.

Doesn't help us from a computer numbers perspective....but it gets us a little closer to passing them in the rankings.

Assuming a win tomorrow, MU could hopefully sneak past UK or auburn loser.

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« Reply #316 on: January 19, 2019, 03:47:29 PM »
Watched it live, team celebrated at center Court and it was all media around them at first. Then the first couple kids jogged out there, then the second wave trotted.

I really don't think the students were looking to rush. By the time they cut to the studio, barely 1/3rd of the court was covered.

Just kinda awkward.

Look they play a slow game and the court rush match it.
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Re: Opponents not looking great of late
« Reply #317 on: January 19, 2019, 03:55:09 PM »
Kansas State sure looks much better with Wade then without him. ......up at half 37-30 vs TCU

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Re: Opponents not looking great of late
« Reply #318 on: January 19, 2019, 04:00:29 PM »
Journalism the last 24 hours has taken another massive hit, not sure what journ 101 even is anymore because journalists certainly aren't practicing it.

What in the last 24 hours are you referencing?

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Re: Opponents not looking great of late
« Reply #319 on: January 19, 2019, 04:13:10 PM »
So was our court rush against Villanova embarrassing? Personally, I loved it

I don't mind it. Unless the NCAA is going to step in and ban them altogether, let the kids have fun.

That said, that was a really half-hearted court storm. Looked like about 20 kids out there.
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Re: Opponents not looking great of late
« Reply #320 on: January 19, 2019, 04:34:50 PM »
Anybody notice Louisville putting a 27 point hurting on GT?

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« Reply #321 on: January 19, 2019, 04:37:34 PM »
Kansas State sure looks much better with Wade then without him. ......up at half 37-30 vs TCU

Starting to look like who we thought they were. Decent chance they regain Q1 win status.
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« Reply #322 on: January 19, 2019, 04:45:25 PM »
What in the last 24 hours are you referencing?
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Re: Opponents not looking great of late
« Reply #323 on: January 20, 2019, 12:05:05 AM »
Hey we're on both the follow up a Final Four by missing the tournament and be picked to win a major conference but don't even make the NIT lists. How many programs get that honour?

I’d wager we would be alone on that one.  When’s the last time you saw someone picked to win a conference and miss everything unless an injury happens?  The only place it really happens with any repitition is the PAC 12 who is a major conference by definition, but really a joke in reality.

Doesn’t happen often elsewhere.  Then pair them with missing after Final Four.  Probably just us, but not going to look it up.
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« Reply #324 on: January 20, 2019, 06:51:20 AM »
Good journalists still check sources and report the facts, and there still are plenty of them. But bad journalists certainly exist, and since generalizations are easier than looking case by case, some people make overly broad statements like "journalists certainly aren't practicing it."

Just my $0.02.

Yes, but why does BAD journalism seem to lead the way so much.  Ok, if good journalism is the norm and there are some bad actors out there as there are in anything, cops, priests, teachers...why does bad journalism seem to get the lead until it’s discredited; some with very devastating effects mind you.   It should be filtered out BEFORE it gets out.  That’s why I continue to believe there aren’t any professional standards for that “trade” anymore.  Bad journalism could lead to putting many people unnecessarily in harms way. Bad info just as bad dentistry can get people hurt.  Why not hold them to the same standards?? 

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