Big East Conference Results/ NCAA/NIT/CBI

[bananahammock]

This is the key to why I'm not worried about the Big East moving forward. The bottom 8 return most of their stars or have new stars waiting in the wings.

Butler: Only loses Paul Jorgensen (26.3 minutes per game) and Nate Fowler (17.9) and has Bryce Nzei (transfer from UWM) and Kalif Battle (top 100 FR) coming in
Creighton: Only loses Kaleb Joseph (12.6) and Connor Cashaw (9.3) and has Denzel Mahoney (transfer from SEMOST)
DePaul: Loses a ton with Strus (36.4), Cain (34.7), and Olujobi (25.8) leaving but brings in Darious Hall (transfer from Arkansas), Carte'Are Gordon (transfer from SLU), Romeo Weems (top 50 FR) and Markese Jacobs (top 100 FR)
Georgetown: Replaces Govan (32.2) with Omer Yurtseven (Impact transfer from NCST), loses Mourning (20), Malinowski (17.5), and Johnson (11.7)
Providence: Only loses Jackson (26.9) and Holt (6.0) and bring Greg Gantt (top 75 FR)
Seton Hall: Only loses Nzei (28.7) and replaces him with Ikey Obiagu (transfer from Florida State)
St. John's: Only loses Clark Jr (30.4) and has 5 transfers coming in
Xavier: Loses Castlin (22.5), Hankins (20.8), and Welage (20.7) brings in a 5 man recruiting class including 4 top 150 recruits

Looking at all this, I would say only DePaul and Georgetown may trend down while the other six will all be on the rise next season. Throw in Marquette returning everyone and adding McEwen, and Villanova adding the #2 ranked recruiting class and the Big East will be a bloodbath next season.

My concern about the league would center around the coaches. Holtman and Mack were big loses.

[Herman Cain]

Big East Net Rankings as of games Sunday February 3. Nova inching up steadily now in the teens.  The best thing about this system is the league doesn't have any off the charts bad teams rankings wise.  I wonder if DePaul would have done a thanksgiving tournament where their ranking would be.

New Old
18   18   Marquette   
19   20   Villanova   
45   45   St. John's
55   55   Butler   
59   64   Creighton   
68   68   Seton Hall   
80   79   Providence   
82   82   Georgetown   
93   86   Xavier   
102   104   DePaul   

[PGsHeroes32]

Bummer Gtown schedule like cowards and didn't burry some of those teams

They are definitely better than "82".

[Herman Cain]

Big East NET rankings as of games of Monday February 4.

New Old
18   18   Marquette   
19   19   Villanova   
45   45   St. John's
55   55   Butler   
58   59   Creighton   
67   68   Seton Hall   
81   80   Providence   
82   82   Georgetown   
92   93   Xavier   
102   102   DePaul   

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

DePaul: Loses a ton with Strus (36.4), Cain (34.7), and Olujobi (25.8) leaving but brings in Darious Hall (transfer from Arkansas), Carte'Are Gordon (transfer from SLU), Romeo Weems (top 50 FR) and Markese Jacobs (top 100 FR)

I missed the Gordon news.  Nice get for Depaul. 

[MUBigDance]

If GT loses at PR and CR loses at VN and SJ loses at MU .....very likely.
Then we have the big 2, X at 3-7 and everyone else at 4-6. That looks weirdly awful in the table. Someone has to rise and grab another bid. I'm wondering now if I was wrong to think more than 2 for the BE was a certainty.

In any case SJ will have to wait for their next win.

[source?]

If GT loses at PR and CR loses at VN and SJ loses at MU .....very likely.
Then we have the big 2, X at 3-7 and everyone else at 4-6. That looks weirdly awful in the table. Someone has to rise and grab another bid. I'm wondering now if I was wrong to think more than 2 for the BE was a certainty.

In any case SJ will have to wait for their next win.

Your chosen abbreviations are...interesting

[Herman Cain]

Big East Net Rankings as of games of Tuesday February 5.
New Old
18   19   Villanova   
21   18   Marquette   
40   45   St. John's
55   55   Butler   
58   58   Creighton   
67   67   Seton Hall   
79   82   Georgetown   
81   81   Providence   
92   92   Xavier   
102   102   DePaul   

[Windyplayer]

Your chosen abbreviations are...interesting

Ha, agreed. Rule of thumb: if you think your audience will have to pause to think about them, don't use them. That's somewhere in Strunk & White, right???

[BM1090]

Georgetown has a shot to make a run at a bid if they can finish in the 2nd half vs. PC

[Mr. Nielsen]

6:10 left on CBSSN.
Creighton 43 Villanova 43.

[warriorchick]

Jays up by 3 with 3:22 to go.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Gtown wins.

I am pulling for Creighton.

[HowardsWorld]

Not sure where to post this. Looks like Wisconsin's brad davison playing dirty.

https://twitter.com/habby831/status/1093333052217090049?s=21

[The Thing]

Nova wins in OT

[skianth16]

Gtown wins.

I am pulling for Creighton.

Man, they almost pulled it out. That would have been great for us.

Side  note - bet the under Saturday!

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Not sure where to post this. Looks like Wisconsin's brad davison playing dirty.

https://twitter.com/habby831/status/1093333052217090049?s=21

Not here

[Johnny B]

The main takeaway from that game is that nova is nothing to fear. They are absolutely beatable. Creighton and g town nearly beat them on the road. No reason we can't take care of them at home

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

The main takeaway from that game is that nova is nothing to fear. They are absolutely beatable. Creighton and g town nearly beat them on the road. No reason we can't take care of them at home

For sure. Booth having a pretty bad night helps. Crazy Creighton was even in that game without Alexander and Zagerowski, arguably 2 of their best 3 players.

[Its DJOver]

The main takeaway from that game is that nova is nothing to fear. They are absolutely beatable. Creighton and g town nearly beat them on the road. No reason we can't take care of them at home

Pace is going to be extremely important.  If we can get the game into the 70s we have a very good shot. 50s or 60s and we will struggle. Need good Markus to show up.

[BM1090]

Yep. Win Saturday and we will have every shot in this conference race

[MU82]

Obviously, the narrative that had been building here that Nova had again become some unbeatable juggernaut was exposed as silliness tonight, when they were taken into OT at home by a mediocre Creighton team.

There is no great team in the BEast, and only two good teams. Nova is one of them, and we're the other.

If we play well -- not superhuman, not shooting 65% from 3s or anything like that, but well -- I like our chances.

[MUfan12]

Callin' my shot- A refocused MU team in front of a hot crowd wins fairly convincingly on Saturday.

[MU82]

Callin' my shot- A refocused MU team in front of a hot crowd wins fairly convincingly on Saturday.

Wouldn't surprise me a bit, MUf.

[StillWarriors]

Obviously, the narrative that had been building here that Nova had again become some unbeatable juggernaut was exposed as silliness tonight, when they were taken into OT at home by a mediocre Creighton team.

There is no great team in the BEast, and only two good teams. Nova is one of them, and we're the other.

If we play well -- not superhuman, not shooting 65% from 3s or anything like that, but well -- I like our chances.

I agree they are not an unbeatable juggernaut by any stretch, but also wouldn't put too much stock in the fact they struggled v. an undermanned and mediocre Creighton team. I am a firm believer that every team has 2-4 games a season where everything clicks, they shoot lights out and are almost impossible to beat. By the same token, there are going to be a few games like that in the other direction where nothing will fall, bounces don't go your way etc..; you hope those games come against cupcakes where you may still win handily. Nova started out 3-17 from 3 and were in the 20s percentage wise overall well into the first half of that game. They ended up at 37.5% overall and 29.4% from deep. They won't shoot like that often even against a great D, and Creighton is not a great one. Unfortunately, they got a wake up call (like we did on Tuesday), except they still got a W.  If they were going to get the W anyway, I would have preferred they roll last night and come in feeling really good about themselves on Sat.

Oh well, both teams had to be looking ahead a bit towards Saturday and I'm sure will be focused and fired up.  I like our chances on Saturday too, so much so that I will be extremely letdown if Nova comes into what will be a great environment and still gets a win. I also think it will be far better for the conference for Nova not to just cruise through even though several of their games have been close deep into the game. They have an unbelievable knack for taking over games in the last 5-8 minutes. Really hoping for a MU barrage and big win on Saturday; we're due.