Big East Conference Results/ NCAA/NIT/CBI

[PGsHeroes32]

Johnnies rolling right now.

Creighton still has time for a run

[Herman Cain]

The Johnnies reclaim some of their mojo.

[Herman Cain]

Big East NET rankings as of games Wednesday January 30. NCAA has not disclosed the formula for NET will be interesting to see what truly drives the changes.  It seems like teams get locked in shortly after the end of non conference and then very hard to change the ranking.

New Old
18   19   Marquette   
21   22   Villanova   
44   48   St. John's
55   51   Butler   
62   57   Creighton   
63   62   Seton Hall   
72   72   Providence   
86   84   Xavier   
87   89   Georgetown   
112   103   DePaul   

[drewm88]

Big East NET rankings as of games Wednesday January 30. NCAA has not disclosed the formula for NET will be interesting to see what truly drives the changes.  It seems like teams get locked in shortly after the end of non conference and then very hard to change the ranking.

Or is it that the non-con data currently comprises about half of the overall data, plus teams' performance through 1/3 of the season is often pretty similar to what it is after 2/3 of the season?

[oldwarrior81]

I got this from a Villanova guy:

Villanova has a 26 game home winning streak against Seton Hall.

The last time Seton Hall won @ Nova, Mariano Rivera had just finished up his rookie ball season with the Yankees.
That streak covers the rest of Rivera's minor league career, his 19 year big league career and the five year wait for the HOF vote.

[Spotcheck Billy]

I got this from a Villanova guy:

Villanova has a 26 game home winning streak against Seton Hall.

The last time Seton Hall won @ Nova, Mariano Rivera had just finished up his rookie ball season with the Yankees.
That streak covers the rest of Rivera's minor league career, his 19 year big league career and the five year wait for the HOF vote.

Nice streak but, but has Clemson ever won in Chapel Hill?

[oldwarrior81]

Has UWM ever beat MU?  Home or road.

[Galway Eagle]

Has UWM ever beat MU?  Home or road.

No it's the second longest one sided rivalry in NCAAB beaten by Syracuse Colgate

[oldwarrior81]

Back to the BigEast...

we've discussed the possibility of only two over .500 in conference.
I would hope someone could play solid ball the last month and end up 9-9.

But for a winning 10-8 record, I'm not sure which team I would pick.
St John's or Seton Hall going 6-3?  Providence 7-3?

[JakeBarnes]

Back to the BigEast...

we've discussed the possibility of only two over .500 in conference.
I would hope someone could play solid ball the last month and end up 9-9.

But for a winning 10-8 record, I'm not sure which team I would pick.
St John's or Seton Hall going 6-3?  Providence 7-3?

Hall has the best wins of those three. That's gotta be one of them. Unfortunately, Butler is probably out barring a miraculous run. Johnnies are the next option. Maybe providence can make a crazy run too, but I don't even know if that's mathematically possible.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Not only are there only 2 teams above .500, there's also only 3 teams with only 1 less win then loss, meaning 5 teams are 2 or more losses down in the W column. Of those three teams that are 1 win away from .500, 2 have to go on the road for their next BE game (SJU @Marquette & Seton Hall @Butler), so they both could be in the two more losses than wins category soon. Georgetown is favored to get to .500 tonight at home vs Xavier...but then they have to go to Nova in a couple days. Could be awhile before we see a third team above .500.

[brewcity77]

No it's the second longest one sided rivalry in NCAAB beaten by Syracuse Colgate

Incorrect. Syracuse has the longest winning streak, but Colgate has 45 wins over Syracuse. MU over UWM is the biggest one-sided rivalry.

[Bocephys]

Incorrect. Syracuse has the longest winning streak, but Colgate has 45 wins over Syracuse. MU over UWM is the biggest one-sided rivalry.

I know it's a lose/lose proposition, but I do wish we'd continue to play UWM to drive that number even higher.  It's not fun if we're not adding to it.

[mug644]

Back to the BigEast...

we've discussed the possibility of only two over .500 in conference.
I would hope someone could play solid ball the last month and end up 9-9.

But for a winning 10-8 record, I'm not sure which team I would pick.
St John's or Seton Hall going 6-3?  Providence 7-3?

How about Georgetown? With last night's win over X, they are at .500, with a game in hand. It would be a surprise, but they are certainly playing better and have talent.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

How about Georgetown? With last night's win over X, they are at .500, with a game in hand. It would be a surprise, but they are certainly playing better and have talent.

Well, this is what everyone expected in the new conference, Nova, Marquette, and Georgetown to run the show.

Took six years but looks like it's on the way to that.

[brewcity77]

How about Georgetown? With last night's win over X, they are at .500, with a game in hand. It would be a surprise, but they are certainly playing better and have talent.

I don't see it. Six of their remaining 10 are on the road & they host Villanova. I know they won a couple away already, but I think it's an uphill climb to get to 8-10.

On paper, it looks like Creighton or St John's, but I would put my money on Seton Hall. 4/5 losses were on the road & they get 5 more home games. They have the two toughest road games out of the way & have been solid away from home (6-5 away from Newark, wins over UK & Maryland).

[Herman Cain]

I don't see it. Six of their remaining 10 are on the road & they host Villanova. I know they won a couple away already, but I think it's an uphill climb to get to 8-10.

On paper, it looks like Creighton or St John's, but I would put my money on Seton Hall. 4/5 losses were on the road & they get 5 more home games. They have the two toughest road games out of the way & have been solid away from home (6-5 away from Newark, wins over UK & Maryland).

The Hall wins over Kentucky and Maryland will carry a lot of weight with committee if past practices prevail.

[brewcity77]

The Hall wins over Kentucky and Maryland will carry a lot of weight with committee if past practices prevail.

Agreed, 9-9 should get them in. Those are big non-con feathers in the cap.

[Herman Cain]

Agreed, 9-9 should get them in. Those are big non-con feathers in the cap.

Coach Willard was also agitated about how their early Big East schedule was set up , they may come into a stretch of the schedule that is better for them.

[We R Final Four]

I've seen The Hall play several games—including us. Not that impressed. I don't think they have it in them to make a nice run in the BEast. We'll see.

[PGsHeroes32]

Hall was making a big run after being down double digits

Cale biffs a wide open dunk to cut it to 4. Butler nails a 3. Back to 9.

Also, can only watch the game on half screen. The other half is the two coaches coaching, wtf is that.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Hall was making a big run after being down double digits

Cale biffs a wide open dunk to cut it to 4. Butler nails a 3. Back to 9.

Also, can only watch the game on half screen. The other half is the two coaches coaching, wtf is that.

Not even sure who I want to win this game. Was thinking Hall, but Hall probably gets in at 9-9 and another home loss for Butler would pretty much end any chances they have.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Not even sure who I want to win this game. Was thinking Hall, but Hall probably gets in at 9-9 and another home loss for Butler would pretty much end any chances they have.

I don't think Butler has much of a chance either way, so probably Hall.

[jsglow]

These are the games Hall can't afford to lose.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

I don't think Butler has much of a chance either way, so probably Hall.

Realistic shot? Probably not. But they're in the convo at 9-9 and probably within a few teams one way or the other at 10-8. I think that pretty much applies for any of Butler, PC and Creighton. Maybe even Gtown.