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Re: Big East Conference Results
« Reply #400 on: January 26, 2019, 09:01:04 AM »
I think Butler's non conference gives them more wiggle room then Creighton to make the dance. The Jays have zero Q1 wins and likely only have three more opportunities to get them.
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Re: Big East Conference Results
« Reply #401 on: January 26, 2019, 09:13:18 AM »
If the conference is all knotted up in the middle, what are the chances that DePaul could be the team to emerge from the pack?  Do they have any hope of the tournament if they wind up 11-7 or 10-8?
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Re: Big East Conference Results
« Reply #402 on: January 26, 2019, 09:24:51 AM »
If the conference is all knotted up in the middle, what are the chances that DePaul could be the team to emerge from the pack.  Do they have any hope of the tournament is they wind up 11-7 or 10-8?

I was wondering that the other day too. There’s a spot for them to make a run there if they really played well, but I don’t think anyone believes they won’t DePaul it.

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Re: Big East Conference Results
« Reply #403 on: January 26, 2019, 11:31:57 AM »
If the conference is all knotted up in the middle, what are the chances that DePaul could be the team to emerge from the pack?  Do they have any hope of the tournament if they wind up 11-7 or 10-8?

No at 10-8, 11-7 could start to get real interesting. Weirdly enough the fans from every other big east school would know before the students and most alumni from depaul
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Re: Big East Conference Results
« Reply #404 on: January 26, 2019, 05:43:04 PM »
If MU and Villanova can continue to be dominant the rest of the league will have some chances to pick up good quality wins. 

For illustration purposes let’s say each goes 14-4. That is 8 quality wins for someone else in conference.

The question is who of those other teams can cobble together a run of 2 or 4 games.
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Re: Big East Conference Results
« Reply #405 on: January 26, 2019, 06:17:55 PM »
If the conference is all knotted up in the middle, what are the chances that DePaul could be the team to emerge from the pack?  Do they have any hope of the tournament if they wind up 11-7 or 10-8?

I haven't compared them to the other schools in the middle, but I just looked at DePaul's nonconference schedule and it was abysmal.

Their most impressive win might be Penn State...which is in 14th place in the Big Twelethirfourteen. And they have losses to BC (9th in the ACC), NW (9th in the Big Twelethirfourteen), and ND (14th in the ACC). They didn't play any major schools that are even in the top half of their respective conferences.

IMHO, DePaul has to win 12+ BE games to have a shot.

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Re: Big East Conference Results
« Reply #406 on: January 26, 2019, 06:39:53 PM »

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Re: Big East Conference Results
« Reply #407 on: January 26, 2019, 06:44:14 PM »
This would be a big loss for Butler

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Yea well, thought Marshall was going to be out in the second half and ends up having his best shooting night of his career.

Knowing Hinkle, he wont play all game and end up being put in, in the final 30 seconds to hit a game winning three...

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Re: Big East Conference Results
« Reply #408 on: January 26, 2019, 06:55:41 PM »
Big East Net Rankings through games of Friday January 25. Creighton moved up a little and Butler moved down. Looks like Butler Seton Hall and Creighotn are all bunched in the 50s range. It seems One of them has to go on a run of wins to get out of that range.
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19   20   Marquette   
23   23   Villanova   
39   40   St. John's
52   47   Butler   
56   55   Seton Hall   
58   63   Creighton   
72   72   Providence   
86   85   Xavier   
97   96   DePaul   
105   105   Georgetown   

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Re: Big East Conference Results
« Reply #409 on: January 26, 2019, 07:02:49 PM »
Big East Net Rankings through games of Friday January 25. Creighton moved up a little and Butler moved down. Looks like Butler Seton Hall and Creighotn are all bunched in the 50s range. It seems One of them has to go on a run of wins to get out of that range.
New Old

19   20   Marquette   
23   23   Villanova   
39   40   St. John's
52   47   Butler   
56   55   Seton Hall   
58   63   Creighton   
72   72   Providence   
86   85   Xavier   
97   96   DePaul   
105   105   Georgetown

Dumb question and I think I know the answer but can someone confirm what equates to Q1, Q2, etc wins and losses in terms of Net?

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Re: Big East Conference Results
« Reply #410 on: January 26, 2019, 07:07:11 PM »
Dumb question and I think I know the answer but can someone confirm what equates to Q1, Q2, etc wins and losses in terms of Net?
Quadrant 1: Home 1-30; Neutral 1-50; Away 1-75.
Quadrant 2: Home 31-75; Neutral 51-100; Away 76-135.
Quadrant 3: Home 76-160; Neutral 101-200; Away 136-240.
Quadrant 4: Home 161-plus; Neutral 201-plus; Away 241-plus

Here are the actual team sheets
https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/Stats%20Library/NET%20Nitty%20Gritty%20-%20Games%20through%20January%2025,%202019.pdf

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Re: Big East Conference Results
« Reply #411 on: January 26, 2019, 07:15:52 PM »
Seriously, at this point I could not care less if two or ten BE teams make NCAA. MU has sealed their ticket and playing for seeding. MU’s future success this season is right in their lap. They continue to win, which should not be an issue, then off to March. It is nice to see MU in the drivers seat and not worrying about nine other teams winning or losing. Bottom line, if they do their job, they have a great seed and then see what happens.

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Re: Big East Conference Results
« Reply #412 on: January 26, 2019, 07:21:50 PM »
If MU and Villanova can continue to be dominant the rest of the league will have some chances to pick up good quality wins. 

For illustration purposes let’s say each goes 14-4. That is 8 quality wins for someone else in conference.

The question is who of those other teams can cobble together a run of 2 or 4 games.

In this scenario, 2 of those 8 quality wins will be the head-to-head games between MU and Villanova.  And St. John's already has a win against MU. 

That leaves only five chances left.






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Re: Big East Conference Results
« Reply #413 on: January 26, 2019, 07:23:55 PM »
Seriously, at this point I could not care less if two or ten BE teams make NCAA. MU has sealed their ticket and playing for seeding. MU’s future success this season is right in their lap. They continue to win, which should not be an issue, then off to March. It is nice to see MU in the drivers seat and not worrying about nine other teams winning or losing. Bottom line, if they do their job, they have a great seed and then see what happens.
The stronger the Big East the better it is for MU as a program. So I always care about how the league is going .  I have felt all season, this was the year MU could control its own destiny and not have to worry about other teams and they have done just that so far this season, which is fantastic.

I also enjoy following all the teams in the league, makes it interesting. The depth of the conference, the rivalries and the colorful coaches are what made the Big East a great league. This new incarnation of the league is moving steadily in that same direction.
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Re: Big East Conference Results
« Reply #414 on: January 26, 2019, 07:30:52 PM »
Herman

All good points. I was simply stating that for the next four weeks MU is in a drivers seat it has not seen in awhile. Of course I hope BE gets bids, but right now, I am focusing only on MU. It has been awhile since MU could be a little cocky and I’m going to enjoy it.

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Re: Big East Conference Results
« Reply #415 on: January 26, 2019, 08:08:17 PM »
Herman

All good points. I was simply stating that for the next four weeks MU is in a drivers seat it has not seen in awhile. Of course I hope BE gets bids, but right now, I am focusing only on MU. It has been awhile since MU could be a little cocky and I’m going to enjoy it.
I am loving every second of it.
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Re: Big East Conference Results
« Reply #416 on: January 26, 2019, 08:34:43 PM »
Quadrant 1A: Home 1-15; Neutral 1-25; Away 1-40.
Quadrant 1B: Home 16-30; Neutral 26-50; Away 41-75
Quadrant 2A: Home 31-55; Neutral 51-75; Away 76-100.
Quadrant 2B: Home 56-75; Neutral 76-100; Away 101-135
Quadrant 3: Home 76-160; Neutral 101-200; Away 136-240.
Quadrant 4: Home 161-plus; Neutral 201-plus; Away 241-plus

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Re: Big East Conference Results
« Reply #417 on: January 27, 2019, 10:32:42 AM »
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Re: Big East Conference Results
« Reply #418 on: January 27, 2019, 10:51:18 AM »
Winning is overrated. The only time it is really important is in surgery and war.
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Re: Big East Conference Results
« Reply #419 on: January 27, 2019, 11:00:27 AM »
Reeves is back
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

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Re: Big East Conference Results
« Reply #420 on: January 27, 2019, 11:25:09 AM »
Reeves is back
Good news for Providence.
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Re: Big East Conference Results
« Reply #421 on: January 27, 2019, 11:41:57 AM »
Providence rolling DePaul so far

Gtown and SJU is a back and forth battle for the first 14 min.

Prov and SJU wins are best for the league today
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

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Re: Big East Conference Results
« Reply #422 on: January 27, 2019, 12:23:53 PM »
Flipping back and forth to both games today and was thinking that the play has really stepped up in the Big East.   The perception that this is a down year may be true but in reality I think these teams are young and getting better.  MU will be more than prepared to make a run in the NCAA tournament by playing a round robin schedule in this league, down year or not.

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Re: Big East Conference Results
« Reply #423 on: January 27, 2019, 12:29:37 PM »
Seriously, at this point I could not care less if two or ten BE teams make NCAA. MU has sealed their ticket and playing for seeding. MU’s future success this season is right in their lap. They continue to win, which should not be an issue, then off to March. It is nice to see MU in the drivers seat and not worrying about nine other teams winning or losing. Bottom line, if they do their job, they have a great seed and then see what happens.

Short term, longer term.

Short term: Agree with respect to MU doing fine if we just take care of business. This season is ours to do with what we can.

Longer term: The more BE teams that make the dance, the more $$$$ we all get down the road. And the more $$$$ we get down the road, the more we can invest in the program.

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Re: Big East Conference Results
« Reply #424 on: January 27, 2019, 12:40:02 PM »
SJU in trouble in a pretty must win game for them.

Down 5 with 10 to go.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

 

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