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brewcity77

Quote from: jsglow on December 09, 2018, 11:50:25 AMOh, and remember a young kid named Jimmy Butler?  He took the right approach.  He worked hard to get better on the advice of his upperclassmen teammates.

Jimmy was also sixth man on a really good team. Not sure it's a good comparison.

MUEng92

That's how internet rumors start.  Someone completely makes up a scenario and someone else sees it and doesn't read it as completely made up.  Each time it's repeated the new reader reads it as more and more reality. 

Unless Jamal passed out at 31 Flavors last night.  Then it's probably true

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Quote from: Sultan of South Wayne on December 09, 2018, 11:57:32 AM

None of this means anything.

I know.  Someone asked about Cain's body language, so I was reporting what I saw.

jsglow

Quote from: brewcity77 on December 09, 2018, 12:02:44 PM
Jimmy was also sixth man on a really good team. Not sure it's a good comparison.

JFB admitted publicly that he 'quit' a half dozen times.

wadesworld

Quote from: MUEng92 on December 09, 2018, 12:06:54 PMUnless Jamal passed out at 31 Flavors last night.  Then it's probably true

Wait what?! Was this before or after he was wheel chaired out of Qdoba?

PGsHeroes32

We should just redshirt him for this year


Close to running out of time for that tho
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

GGGG

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on December 09, 2018, 12:34:15 PM
We should just redshirt him for this year


Close to running out of time for that tho


He played this year.  He can't be redshirted.

jsglow

Quote from: Sultan of South Wayne on December 09, 2018, 12:37:33 PM

He played this year.  He can't be redshirted.

::) Some of these guys need to read up a little.

Silent Verbal

#33
Quote from: jsglow on December 09, 2018, 12:10:04 PM
JFB admitted publicly that he 'quit' a half dozen times.

That's just one of those stories athletes tell after they've had a lot of success.  I once read an article on David Price where he said that when he was at Vanderbilt, he quit baseball and applied at McDonald's, only to be talked out of it by his coach.  Nice yarn, but Price was never going to quit baseball.

Nukem2

Quote from: Sultan of South Wayne on December 09, 2018, 12:37:33 PM

He played this year.  He can't be redshirted.
Even if he were to be injured during the exam break, he can't get an injury redshirt as MU has played 10 games which puts him over 30% (31 x .30 = 9.3 ).

GooooMarquette

Quote from: esotericmindguy on December 09, 2018, 11:59:22 AM
Sorry. I think. I don't know him or anyone else close to the program. Seems fairly clear though, he went from 9-15 minutes a game to last guy off the bench after thanksgiving break.

If he told Wojo something when he got back, his minutes would be at 0 right now. If he didn't say anything, then it's just Wojo's decision, not the result of Jamal making a decision.

Not saying he stays, but any change would not be the result of a decision Jamal and his family made.

forgetful

Quote from: Lazar's Headband on December 09, 2018, 10:42:16 AM
Cain was really excited after the win. High-fived Sam and had a big smile after the final buzzer.

We'll see what the future holds but Jamal was just as excited as his teammates yesterday.

Edit: It was actually a chest bump, not a high five.

Was it a leaping chest bump, or just a chest bump. Jumping off one leg or two? Straight on chest bump, or the rotate your shoulder to their chest bump.

These are all important details in determining if he is transferring or not.

In more seriousness. Two predictions.  1) Cain isn't going anywhere. 2) Elliot plays against either North Dakota or Buffalo.

Markusquette

Quote from: forgetful on December 09, 2018, 02:06:51 PM
Was it a leaping chest bump, or just a chest bump. Jumping off one leg or two? Straight on chest bump, or the rotate your shoulder to their chest bump.

These are all important details in determining if he is transferring or not.

In more seriousness. Two predictions.  1) Cain isn't going anywhere. 2) Elliot plays against either North Dakota or Buffalo.

We could really use Elliott. His bench production is definitely missed.

wadesworld

I'm not expecting a ton from Elliott this season. Coming back from an injury when you're just a roll player usually doesn't work out great. Greg had an important roll last year because he was a gritty defender on a terrible defensive team. He'll be joining a team that is already very solid defensively. Breaking into the rotation will be tough.

GGGG

Quote from: wadesworld on December 09, 2018, 03:13:15 PM
I'm not expecting a ton from Elliott this season. Coming back from an injury when you're just a roll player usually doesn't work out great. Greg had an important roll last year because he was a gritty defender on a terrible defensive team. He'll be joining a team that is already very solid defensively. Breaking into the rotation will be tough.


Greg's important roll


brewcity77

So basically the takeaway from this thread is that Jamal is not gone, right?

GGGG

Jamal is not gone.  But apparently he told Wojo he was leaving after Thankgiving and that's why his minutes decreased.

MUMountin

The tough thing for Jamal is that if he has fallen behind Brendan Bailey he might feel like he'll never have a starter's role on this team.  They play fairly similar styles/position but BB so far has been ahead of Cain on the depth chart.

On the other hand, his friendship with Greg might help him to stick around and put in the work to fight for his minutes.  I think he benefits from GE's intensity when they play together as he doesn't seem to burn quite as hot normally as other guys.

Either way, hope he does what is best for him.  If that's with MU, I think he'll be an important contributor.  If not, can't fault him for searching for a better opportunity.

Jay Bee

Quote from: Nukem2 on December 09, 2018, 12:50:52 PM
Even if he were to be injured during the exam break, he can't get an injury redshirt as MU has played 10 games which puts him over 30% (31 x .30 = 9.3 ).

#FakeNews
#Lies

No. You're wrong and lying. The criteria for a medical hardship waiver includes a 30% provision, but there is a rounding element to the calculation. In Marquette's case, the calc is what you showed, but the 9.3 is rounded up to 10 allowable games in the first half of the season.

So, the truth is if Jamal had an incapacitating injury in practice or on the streetz before playing in another game and was unable to play for the rest of the year, he WOULD indeed meet the criteria for a medical hardship waiver.n
The portal is NOT closed.

Nukem2

#44
Quote from: Jay Bee on December 09, 2018, 03:30:39 PM
#FakeNews
#Lies

No. You're wrong and lying. The criteria for a medical hardship waiver includes a 30% provision, but there is a rounding element to the calculation. In Marquette's case, the calc is what you showed, but the 9.3 is rounded up to 10 allowable games in the first half of the season.

So, the truth is if Jamal had an incapacitating injury in practice or on the streetz before playing in another game and was unable to play for the rest of the year, he WOULD indeed meet the criteria for a medical hardship waiver.n
That's weird.  One would usually round to the nearest whole #.  In any event, hopefully he stays healthy!   :)

PS, what's really wacky is that 10 divided by 31 is 32.3%.   Leave it to the NCAA to come up up with something weird, though surprisingly this would actually favor the SA.

94Warrior

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on December 09, 2018, 12:34:15 PM
We should just redshirt him for this year


Close to running out of time for that tho

If we could just harness the brainpower of this thread...

BM1090


source?

A little early to be handing out the "Golden Ners Award" for best player on the team but Wojo didn't like so he gowne, isn't it?

Heisenberg

Doesn't Wojo have a history of not playing impending transfers.  If so, note that Cain played yesterday.

Also, our next game is Dec 18 against North Dakota.  The semester will be over then.  If he is truly leaving he'll announce and be granted his release before that game so he can find a he landing spot. (cannot "legally" talk to other schools before released)

So, if he is transferring, yesterday was his last game in an MU Uni.

GGGG

#49
Quote from: Tower Tops on December 09, 2018, 06:33:35 PM
Doesn't Wojo have a history of not playing impending transfers. 


If Wojo knows of a transfer, he won't play at all, and in fact will be off the team immediately.  (See Haanif.)

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