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GooooMarquette

Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 11, 2018, 08:50:51 PM
We would be big long shots to beat Arizona, Nevada and Auburn back to back to back.

Unless you're a 1, 2 or maybe 3 seed, getting to the E8 is always something of a long shot. Even the favorites typically have to dodge bullets here and there.

MU82

Quote from: GooooMarquette on December 12, 2018, 08:36:35 AM
Unless you're a 1, 2 or maybe 3 seed, getting to the E8 is always something of a long shot. Even the favorites typically have to dodge bullets here and there.

This.

We didn't exactly waltz effort-free to the E8 in 1977, 2003 or 2013.
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WarriorDad

Quote from: MUeagle1090 on December 11, 2018, 09:40:59 AM
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

Lunardi's update for today. Won't post where we are because that would ruin the fun!

Not very good team Wisconsin with a 3 seed?  Not very good Big East conference with 5 teams?  What is going on?   ;)
"No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth."
— Plato

Goose

WarriorDad

Is MU a very good team this year?

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: WarriorDad on December 12, 2018, 09:31:26 AM
Not very good team Wisconsin with a 3 seed?  Not very good Big East conference with 5 teams?  What is going on?   ;)
Congrats Chicos, you've achieved the "Wisconsin Fluffer Award" yet again. Here's your badge.

If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

WarriorDad

Quote from: Goose on December 12, 2018, 09:33:12 AM
WarriorDad

Is MU a very good team this year?

Right now, we are a good team in my opinion.  We certainly would not be categorized as NOT VERY GOOD, the description you have been using to describe Wisconsin.
"No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth."
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Goose

TSmith

I always liked Chico's, actually a lot, but not a big fan of the new Chico's.

WarriorDad

Quote from: TSmith34 on December 12, 2018, 09:36:40 AM
Congrats Chicos, you've achieved the "Wisconsin Fluffer Award" yet again. Here's your badge.



OK Chicos.  No idea what this even means, but I'm so thankful.  The reason I made my comment is Goose is telling us here that Wisconsin is not a very good team. If they are not a very good team, why are they ranked so highly and a 3 seed?   I've also read here how bad the Big East is, with some members here saying 2 teams, 3 teams maximum.  For now, prognostications say 5 teams.

My sarcasm apparently wasn't strong, but the badge is an honor.
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JWags85

Quote from: WarriorDad on December 12, 2018, 09:31:26 AM
Not very good team Wisconsin with a 3 seed?  Not very good Big East conference with 5 teams?  What is going on?   ;)

Wisconsin as a 3 is hysterical. Their best wins are an average X team, a NC St who has beaten nobody, and an Iowa team whose best win no longer looks good and has lost to the other 2 good teams they played.

I'll take the resume win. But I don't think UW is a top 20 team, much less a top 3 seed. But Lunardi is notoriously lazy early in the season, especially with seeds.

BM1090

Quote from: JWags85 on December 12, 2018, 10:07:52 AM
Wisconsin as a 3 is hysterical. Their best wins are an average X team, a NC St who has beaten nobody, and an Iowa team whose best win no longer looks good and has lost to the other 2 good teams they played.

I'll take the resume win. But I don't think UW is a top 20 team, much less a top 3 seed. But Lunardi is notoriously lazy early in the season, especially with seeds.

Compare that to those below them and see who deserves to be ranked higher. I think you'll struggle to find any. They also beat an Oklahoma team that is 8-1 and #32 on Kenpom.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

I don't think Wisconsin is a top 15 team or a 3 seed by the end of the season. I think they are more top 40 and will end up in the 7 to 10 seed range.

I also don't think K State is a top 15 team by the end of the season. I think they are more top 25 and will be in the 4 to 8 seed range.

They are both still quality wins at home. All these things can be true.

Similarly the Big East is still one of the top 5 conferences in the nation. But it is down this season. The top 3 teams look more like 4 - 8 seeds then top 4 seeds.  There are 5 teams in but the 5th one is holding on by a thread and I'm not sure if any of the other 5 are close to breaking in. It will be a rough year ink the BEast. Fortunately,  it's should be short lived. Most of the leagues stars will return next season and there are some nice players coming in next year.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


BM1090

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 12, 2018, 10:12:00 AM
I don't think Wisconsin is a top 15 team or a 3 seed by the end of the season. I think they are more top 40 and will end up in the 7 to 10 seed range.

I also don't think K State is a top 15 team by the end of the season. I think they are more top 25 and will be in the 4 to 8 seed range.

They are both still quality wins at home. All these things can be true.

Similarly the Big East is still one of the top 5 conferences in the nation. But it is down this season. The top 3 teams look more like 4 - 8 seeds then top 4 seeds.  There are 5 teams in but the 5th one is holding on by a thread and I'm not sure if any of the other 5 are close to breaking in. It will be a rough year ink the BEast. Fortunately,  it's should be short lived. Most of the leagues stars will return next season and there are some nice players coming in next year.

Agree with your last two statements.  Both are good wins and the Big East is down.

I think Wisconsin is better than KSU and that's not a knock on KSU.  I'd say KSU is probably 8 seed caliber while Wisconsin will end up in the 4-7 seed range.

Goose

TAMU

I agree both of the wins are quality wins. In addition, agree on predicted landing pace for KState and UW. Regardless, I am much more optimistic MU can fare better than I expected this season.

MU82

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 12, 2018, 10:12:00 AM
I don't think Wisconsin is a top 15 team or a 3 seed by the end of the season. I think they are more top 40 and will end up in the 7 to 10 seed range.

I also don't think K State is a top 15 team by the end of the season. I think they are more top 25 and will be in the 4 to 8 seed range.

They are both still quality wins at home. All these things can be true.

Similarly the Big East is still one of the top 5 conferences in the nation. But it is down this season. The top 3 teams look more like 4 - 8 seeds then top 4 seeds.  There are 5 teams in but the 5th one is holding on by a thread and I'm not sure if any of the other 5 are close to breaking in. It will be a rough year ink the BEast. Fortunately,  it's should be short lived. Most of the leagues stars will return next season and there are some nice players coming in next year.

Give this man a cigar.
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"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: MUeagle1090 on December 12, 2018, 10:15:43 AM
I think Wisconsin is better than KSU and that's not a knock on KSU.  I'd say KSU is probably 8 seed caliber while Wisconsin will end up in the 4-7 seed range.

That's fair. Wisconsin definitely played us a lot better than K-State did. Personally, I think K-State has been slightly underachieving to date and Wisconsin has been significantly overachieving. I think both regress (or progress) towards the mean and K-State ends up the better of the two. Could absolutely be wrong though.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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Cheeks

Quote from: Goose on December 12, 2018, 09:40:52 AM
TSmith

I always liked Chico's, actually a lot, but not a big fan of the new Chico's.

Maybe because we are not the same people as I have said.

Love you too Goose.  Hope all is good with your travels to the Far East.  How is your brother in law's family doing since his tragedy?  Prayers!!  Hopefully they have coped, cannot imagine.
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Cheeks

Quote from: TSmith34 on December 12, 2018, 09:36:40 AM
Congrats Chicos, you've achieved the "Wisconsin Fluffer Award" yet again. Here's your badge.



Since you are referencing me, I'll answer...I respect Bucky a lot. They win, they seem to do it right, and they generally play solid basketball.  May not be the most attractive, but many ways to skin the cat.  However, to suggest I cheer for them or want them to win is ridiculous.  I respect their program and what they have accomplished.
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Bocephys

Lunardi brought us all the way up to 20: https://twitter.com/espnlunardi/status/1073702552225660928?s=21
QuoteWeekend seed list (CAPS=AQ): 01-KU, 02-DUKE, 03-MICH, 04-ZAGA, 05-NEV, 06-Tenn, 07-UVa, 08-MichSt, 09-AUB, 10-Wisc, 11-OhioSt, 12-Unc, 13-FlaSt, 14-TTech, 15-VaTech, 16-BUFF, 17-Okla, 18-Neb, 19-Ind, 20-Marq, 21-NOVA, 22-Hou, 23-Purd, 24-CINCY...

ChitownSpaceForRent

Quote from: Bocephys on December 14, 2018, 04:40:12 PM
Lunardi brought us all the way up to 20: https://twitter.com/espnlunardi/status/1073702552225660928?s=21

I just don't get how Wisconsin is a 3 seed. Nothing about that teams screams top-10 to me.

Besides Happ they're not very good.

fjm


JakeBarnes

Jerry Palm with a 5-12 against Dayton. And a 2nd round matchup against Bucky. I like it.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/bracketology/
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

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Galway Eagle

Quote from: JakeBarnes on December 18, 2018, 01:12:02 PM
Jerry Palm with a 5-12 against Dayton. And a 2nd round matchup against Bucky. I like it.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/bracketology/

I irrationally hate Dayton and would love to see them get beat down. Aren't they like the 4th or 5th best in a weak A10 though?
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Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: Galway Eagle on December 18, 2018, 01:19:23 PM
I irrationally hate Dayton and would love to see them get beat down. Aren't they like the 4th or 5th best in a weak A10 though?

Jerry Palm is bad at his job

BM1090

Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on December 18, 2018, 01:34:07 PM
Jerry Palm is bad at his job

It's brutal. I know the NCAA is more lenient with rematches now too, but he could have just switched Wisconsin and Oklahoma to avoid the potential rematch and both pods are in Des Moines.

MuMark

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 12, 2018, 11:54:02 AM
That's fair. Wisconsin definitely played us a lot better than K-State did. Personally, I think K-State has been slightly underachieving to date and Wisconsin has been significantly overachieving. I think both regress (or progress) towards the mean and K-State ends up the better of the two. Could absolutely be wrong though.

https://twitter.com/kcstar/status/1075142164907286528?s=21

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