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Marquette
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Date/Time: Oct 4, 2025
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Schedule for 2024-25
New Mexico
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How many games does Indiana lose at Assembly Hall this season?

0-1
10 (16.9%)
2-4
46 (78%)
5+
3 (5.1%)

Total Members Voted: 59

skianth16

#25
Quote from: Jay Bee on November 24, 2018, 09:11:25 PM
Bruh

I was wrong here. My bad.

But I stand by the point that ignoring margin of victory doesn't make sense.

rocky_warrior

Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 24, 2018, 07:28:16 PM
If margin of victory is unimportant then Pomeroy and Sagerin are also. Their predictive model is based on it.

I don't follow sagerin, but for Kenpom, I don't think you understand points per possession, or adjusted offensive and defensive efficiencies.

https://kenpom.com/blog/ratings-explanation/

brewcity77

Quote from: rocky_warrior on November 24, 2018, 09:28:29 PM
I don't follow sagerin, but for Kenpom, I don't think you understand points per possession, or adjusted offensive and defensive efficiencies.

https://kenpom.com/blog/ratings-explanation/

Well, Lennys is still correct to the extent that predictive models are based on expected scores. So if you win by an amount greater than the expected margin, kenpom will likely move you up in the overall rankings because the Adjusted Efficiency Margin is based on the difference of your adjusted offensive and defensive efficiency (likely because it's always dependent on what the teams around you do also). So if you outdo the expected margin, by default your AdjEM will improve because even if you underperform one of the individual metrics, exceeding the expected margin means you overperformed the other metric by enough to insure your AdjEM is improving beyond what was expected. It's why we dropped 6 spots after the Indiana loss.

marqfan22

Is the subscription to KenPalm worth the price?

mu_hilltopper


Floorslapper

Quote from: wadesworld on November 24, 2018, 08:11:00 PM
Says the guy using the transitive property to compare MU to UT Arlington and UC Davis. Good stuff as always Ners, something nobody on Scoop could understand because they didn't have a high school coach to teach them that one.

What is the relevance to you starting this poll on a Marquette forum?  You realize starting such a poll is essentially the transitive property?  Many teams will lose at IU, so therefore we can take solace in the fact Marquette did as well.

I mean, I know I feel better about things seeing that UT Arlington and UC Davis also lost at IU.


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