NFL 2018-19 2.0

[mu03eng]

I can't think of much more different guys, at least among college football coaches.
Urban has a long history of recruiting/protecting shady kids (and assistant coaches, it seems). I can't recall any significant off-field issues at Northwestern under Fitzgerald's tenure.
Urban is on offensive guy. Fitzgerald comes from the defensive side of the ball.
Urban pulls four- and five-star recruits seemingly at will. Has Fitzgerald ever landed a top 100 kid?
Urban's been a bit of a vagabond, working as HC at four schools since 2001 and numerous stops as an assistant before that. Fitzgerald has been at Northwestern since 2001 and, by all accounts, declined multiple interview opportunities elsewhere.

I don't think Fitzgerald is an NFL coach. But he's nothing like Urban Meyer.

They you don't know what is going on within the Northwestern program and how Fitzgerald acts behind the scenes. Yes, he's not a literal copycat (defense vs offense, etc) but his public persona versus behind the scenes behavior is very Urbz.

[Pakuni]

They you don't know what is going on within the Northwestern program and how Fitzgerald acts behind the scenes. Yes, he's not a literal copycat (defense vs offense, etc) but his public persona versus behind the scenes behavior is very Urbz.

If you're suggesting he's a tyrant behind the scenes ... welcome to big-time college football. Find me a successful coach who's not an a-hole behind the scenes. It's kind of requisite.
If you're suggesting Fitzgerald is covering up for domestic abusers and other assorted criminals, etc. ... do tell.

[wadesworld]

Saying that Mac stuck around for four seasons too long, which means you think he should have been let go after getting to a conference championship game and prior to another championship game appearance, is nonsensical.  No NFL team is going to do that.

Marty Shottenheimer didn't make it to the NFC Title game, but he did go 14-2 and lost to the eventual Super Bowl champion in the Divisional round before he was fired.

[GGGG]

Marty Shottenheimer didn't make it to the NFC Title game, but he did go 14-2 and lost to the eventual Super Bowl champion in the Divisional round before he was fired.

OK cool.  And was replaced with worse coach. 

[wadesworld]

OK cool.  And was replaced with worse coach.

Which wasn’t what you originally said.

[GGGG]

Which wasn’t what you originally said.

You are correct.  I was wrong that no NFL was going to do that. 

A correct statement should have been "no smart-thinking NFL team is going to do that as evidenced by the fact that the Chargers did so and ended up with a worse coach."

The fact is that the Packers, like 99% of the teams out there, weren't going to get rid of McCarthy four years ago.  The earliest it would have made sense is after last year, but they ran Thompson out and apparently decided not to make wholesale changes immediately.  Should they have just made a clean sweep last year?  In retrospect, it would have made sense.  This feels like a wasted year.

[4everwarriors]

Furst thin' eye've agreed wit ya, Pontiff, in yeers, hey?

[#UnleashSean]

Saying that Mac stuck around for four seasons too long, which means you think he should have been let go after getting to a conference championship game and prior to another championship game appearance, is nonsensical.  No NFL team is going to do that.

Wades is the standard nonsensical Wisconsin sports fan.

[wadesworld]

Wades is the standard nonsensical Wisconsin sports fan.

Or the one who had it right for years. You pick. Lol.

[GGGG]

Or the one who had it right for years. You pick. Lol.

Eh. No idea if a supposed replacement would have been any better or worse. Since most coaches are eventually fired, saying that you were right after one eventually is, its a pretty empty gesture.

[GGGG]

https://deadspin.com/packers-crapcan-associate-head-coach-winston-moss-hours-1830869356

This is kind of funny on many levels.  Beyond the tweet, I guess he was PISSED that he wasn't named interim since he was "associate head coach," but the guy has really never been seen as a up-and-coming coach of any sort.  And they limit his speaking to reporters because of stuff like this.

http://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-watch-packers-associate-coach-winston-moss-stares-down-reporters-video/i7o20p9vzqa51fekwc2ubbk4r

So they just canned him.

[tower912]

Harbaugh to Green Bay.

[Pakuni]

Harbaugh to Green Bay.

Joani?

[tower912]

Just tossing the bait on the water.  Murmurings out of Ann Arbor.

[GGGG]

Just tossing the bait on the water.  Murmurings out of Ann Arbor.

I just don't see it.  I wouldn't doubt that Jim is trying to find a safe place to land though.

[DegenerateDish]

Arians comments were somewhat odd, it was a flat out hard "no" when asked if he was interested in GB. I don't know if it's a lifestyle thing and he just doesn't want to live there, or if he knows there's a massive cluster eff in the front office there or what.

[GGGG]

Arians comments were somewhat odd, it was a flat out hard "no" when asked if he was interested in GB. I don't know if it's a lifestyle thing and he just doesn't want to live there, or if he knows there's a massive cluster eff in the front office there or what.

I think that McCarthy is very well thought of in league circles and established coaches may be wary of the circumstances by which he was let go.  Front office, quarterback, etc. 

It will be a challenging situation.

[4everwarriors]

Nah, it don't matta. Coaches are whores and bread is bread. Green Bay is a plum job witout an ego maniac for an owner. Great job and da Pack will have its pick of da litter, hey?

[GB Warrior]

Harbaugh to Green Bay.

Honestly, unless they think McDaniels is "reformed", Jimbo may be the best choice for the remainder of Rodgers' career. Great coach, demands and I think would get the respect of his QB. He does seem to wear out his welcome fast, though, so he may not be your best hire if you're trying to get 13 years out of a guy and transition into the next QB cycle.

[Pakuni]

Just tossing the bait on the water.  Murmurings out of Ann Arbor.

With Urban out at tOSU, Harbaugh has plenty of reason to stick around at Michigan.

[MUBurrow]

Nah, it don't matta. Coaches are whores and bread is bread. Green Bay is a plum job witout an ego maniac for an owner. Great job and da Pack will have its pick of da litter, hey?

This may end up being true, but the last 11 months haven't made the front office, and particularly Murphy, look very good.  First canning literally everyone around McCarthy, setting him up for a one year tryout in a totally different environment where he'd been publicly knocked down a few pegs. Then the gradual consolidation of power in Murphy, followed by yesterday's strange press conference.  Green Bay's own ginger hammer.

[GGGG]

I'm pretty sure that McCarthy is the one who fired Bennett and VanPelt.  He may have had to be "encouraged" to drop Capers, but I think the first two were all on him.

But yeah I don't think the front office is looking very good right now.

[mu03eng]

I'm pretty sure that McCarthy is the one who fired Bennett and VanPelt.  He may have had to be "encouraged" to drop Capers, but I think the first two were all on him.

But yeah I don't think the front office is looking very good right now.

The way it was presented in public was that McCarthy cleaned house, but not sure if that's reality our media posturing.

I think the front office has cover right now with the majority(no idea how large the majority is) fans supportive of firing McCarthy. What will be interesting is what ends up replacing the McCarthy regime. There is a non-zero chance that the next coach staff is not as good as McCarthy.....if Murphy misses with the next coach, how soon before the masses come for him given the last two years.

[rocket surgeon]

gee zus, how old is winston moss?  14?  yud think he's a little above the twitter thing, ey?  well, maybe now he is...what a pud

[jesmu84]

gee zus, how old is winston moss?  14?  yud think he's a little above the twitter thing, ey?  well, maybe now he is...what a pud

So your opinion is that using twitter is immature? And people who use it are "puds"?

Edited for grammar