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wadesworld

Quote from: Jockey on November 15, 2018, 10:09:12 PM
This is his last year in GB. Thankfully.

One would hope, but I've been thinking that since 2015.

CreightonWarrior

#26
Seahawks had been rolling through in the 4th. Why do they not go for it on 4th and 2 when Seattle is so good at running out the clock. BYE McCarthy

Not to mention not challenging that non-catch. What a joke.

Jockey

Quote from: CreightonWarrior on November 15, 2018, 10:17:14 PM
Seahawks had been rolling through in the 4th. Why do they not go for it on 4th and 2 when Seattle is so good at running out the clock. BYE McCarthy

With only 1 timeout, going for it was a no-brainer - to everyone but Mac.

Challenging the catch was a no-brained - to everyone but Mac.

cheebs09

Can you challenge with only one timeout? I thought there was a rule you couldn't risk your last timeout in a challenge.

McCarthy was bad, but Rodgers hurt us too. Take the underneath route and gain 5 yards instead of chucking deep or throwing away.

MUEng92

Things confirmed in the last 24 hours. Markus isn't a point guard and McCarthy is not an exceptional coach.

Dish

I won't write off the Pack just yet, but that 2-4-1 conference record is no bueno. A loss next Sunday night would pretty much be the death blow to their playoff hopes.

wadesworld

Quote from: MUDish on November 15, 2018, 10:25:07 PM
I won't write off the Pack just yet, but that 2-4-1 conference record is no bueno. A loss next Sunday night would pretty much be the death blow to their playoff hopes.

They're done. This is the worst coached team in football. I think the "lack of talent around Rodgers" thing is completely overblown. There's plenty of talent. There's just a scheme that is stuck in 2008.

Dish

McCarthy clearly isn't going to survive, question is dump him tomorrow, and with the extra time, get whoever going? Or just wait until Black Monday?

I'd do it now.

GB Warrior

Quote from: MUDish on November 15, 2018, 10:37:05 PM
McCarthy clearly isn't going to survive, question is dump him tomorrow, and with the extra time, get whoever going? Or just wait until Black Monday?

I'd do it now.

Depends on if you think the replacement is on the roster, or is someone you can talk to (i.e. and the college ranks)

wadesworld

Quote from: MUDish on November 15, 2018, 10:37:05 PM
McCarthy clearly isn't going to survive, question is dump him tomorrow, and with the extra time, get whoever going? Or just wait until Black Monday?

I'd do it now.

I'd do it now. The Packers won't. They might not even do it in the offseason.

Question is who do they bring in?

wadesworld

Crosby and Zook can go with him too, by the way. But knowing how the Packers operate Zook will replace Mac.

Jockey

Quote from: wadesworld on November 15, 2018, 11:04:50 PM
Crosby and Zook can go with him too, by the way. But knowing how the Packers operate Zook will replace Mac.

TT is gone.

WarriorDad

Why didn't he challenge that catch?  Rodgers is great, but 2-6 on 3rd down and missed wide open pass at the 35 was big, too.
"No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth."
— Plato

CreightonWarrior

How many times has Seattle closed out a game with 3-4 minutes left? Did anyone really believe the Packers were going to get the ball back when they punted? As weak of a decision as you'll see.

SaveOD238

Quote from: wadesworld on November 15, 2018, 10:58:04 PM
I'd do it now. The Packers won't. They might not even do it in the offseason.

Question is who do they bring in?

I'm going to be checking ESPN all day today to see if Gutes decides to can McCarthy today.  If he doesn't, it's only because McCarthy has earned the respect in 13 years to not have to suffer the ignominy of a mid-season firing.  He's done at the end of the year.

I'd love to see Lincoln Riley as the next coach, but he seems destined for Cleveland (with Baker) or Dallas (with $$).  If not Riley, then I'd try to hire a hot young OC, like Defelippo or Biemieny.

The other option is to bring in a guy that is a proven winner waiting for the right opportunity to come back.  Gambling Rodgers' last good years on a first-time head coach might be too risky.  That's why I think we could see someone like Harbaugh.

GGGG

Quote from: SaveOD238 on November 16, 2018, 07:39:51 AM
I'm going to be checking ESPN all day today to see if Gutes decides to can McCarthy today.  If he doesn't, it's only because McCarthy has earned the respect in 13 years to not have to suffer the ignominy of a mid-season firing.  He's done at the end of the year.

I'd love to see Lincoln Riley as the next coach, but he seems destined for Cleveland (with Baker) or Dallas (with $$).  If not Riley, then I'd try to hire a hot young OC, like Defelippo or Biemieny.

The other option is to bring in a guy that is a proven winner waiting for the right opportunity to come back.  Gambling Rodgers' last good years on a first-time head coach might be too risky.  That's why I think we could see someone like Harbaugh.


McCarthy reports to Murphy.  It's his call.  And that should worry folks.

BM1090

1. I'd fire McCarthy now. Get it over with.

2. I do think this team goes on a run. Finishes 5-1 to end with a 9-6-1 record. Last 5 games are incredibly easy.

GGGG

Quote from: MUeagle1090 on November 16, 2018, 01:44:43 PM
1. I'd fire McCarthy now. Get it over with.

2. I do think this team goes on a run. Finishes 5-1 to end with a 9-6-1 record. Last 5 games are incredibly easy.


I wouldn't classify the Bears or Falcons as "incredibly easy."

barfolomew

Quote from: MUDish on November 15, 2018, 10:25:07 PM
I won't write off the Pack just yet, but that 2-4-1 conference record is no bueno. A loss next Sunday night would pretty much be the death blow to their playoff hopes.

"Man, we're missing the death blow!"

Relationes Incrementum Victoria

Jockey

Quote from: CreightonWarrior on November 16, 2018, 07:30:51 AM
How many times has Seattle closed out a game with 3-4 minutes left? Did anyone really believe the Packers were going to get the ball back when they punted? As weak of a decision as you'll see.

Of course, it was a cowardly, terrible call by McCarthy. Not only had Seattle shredded the GB defense running the ball all game, but both Daniels and Clark were hurt. I believe that call was the final nail in the coffin.


But, it does no good to fire him before the end of the season if they are interested in any OC around the league. No purpose to hiring an interim coach for 6 games and then making another change in 3 months.

BM1090

Quote from: Sultan of South Wayne on November 16, 2018, 02:10:51 PM

I wouldn't classify the Bears or Falcons as "incredibly easy."

I didn't mean every game. Just the schedule in general. Bears are okay. Vikings are okay. Falcons are okay. I expect them to win 2 of those 3 games and sweep ARI, NYJ, DET

Jockey

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25310452/cleveland-browns-want-interview-condoleezza-rice-head-coaching-job

Any more questions why the Browns are the biggest losers in the NFL?

Thank God Cleveland hired Dorsey, so the Packers weren't tempted to do the same.

WarriorDad

Quote from: Jockey on November 18, 2018, 10:24:24 AM
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25310452/cleveland-browns-want-interview-condoleezza-rice-head-coaching-job

Any more questions why the Browns are the biggest losers in the NFL?

Thank God Cleveland hired Dorsey, so the Packers weren't tempted to do the same.

It's political correctness and nothing more.  A publicity stunt.  Honestly, the Browns future might now be that bad and one can make an argument they should have 7 wins right now.
"No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth."
— Plato

GGGG

Quote from: WarriorDad on November 18, 2018, 11:29:34 AM
It's political correctness and nothing more.  A publicity stunt.  Honestly, the Browns future might now be that bad and one can make an argument they should have 7 wins right now.


"Political correctness"????

Anyway, the browns have already denied it.

SaveOD238

Quote from: Jockey on November 18, 2018, 10:24:24 AM
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25310452/cleveland-browns-want-interview-condoleezza-rice-head-coaching-job

Any more questions why the Browns are the biggest losers in the NFL?

Thank God Cleveland hired Dorsey, so the Packers weren't tempted to do the same.

Head coach, no.  She has zero relevant experience.

Front office position?  That I could see.  She's been the leader of a massive government administration, a college president, and head of the bowl selection committee.  She knows sports and how to run a major organization.

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