JFB wants out of Minny

[HouWarrior]

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24756686/glen-taylor-minnesota-timberwolves-ok-trading-jimmy-butler

If there is another thread pending on this I apologize. There seems to an interesting pro con issue to JFB wanting to leave.

Twolves seemed pretty good and on the rise...they gave my Rockets a good playoff tussle....so JFB...why not stay for a Twolve max contract, and enjoy wins/success where you are?

The teams JFB targets for a trade  seem odd. No1s are Clips and Knicks No 2 is Nets....all three can offer and sign him to a max contract next year...but JFB .....isnt it kind of early to go for max $ and the media markets of LA and NY to reap more  side cash/deals....esp given that none of these 3 look promising on the Court? Are you willing to trade a max contract (and personal "brand" growth) for a much lesser chance at winning in these towns?

I need help/insight from the board

Is this just a money grab, with little thought of getting a ring? Why has he soured on Minny? What are the back stories??

Thanks.

[Floorslapper]

I've read he and Karl Anthony Towns don't get along.  Also read a report today on Yardbarker that an NBA GM said Jimmy is "a problem."

https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/unnamed_nba_gm_on_jimmy_butler_39he_39s_a_problem_39/s1_12680_27313532?mb_edition=20180922

Seems Jimmy is evolving into that uber-driven, hard working, player - that for whatever reason continues to struggle to get buy-in from his teammates to follow his lead.

[4everwarriors]

Nothin' iz free, itz included, hey?

[LAZER]

I've read he and Karl Anthony Towns don't get along.  Also read a report today on Yardbarker that an NBA GM said Jimmy is "a problem."

https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/unnamed_nba_gm_on_jimmy_butler_39he_39s_a_problem_39/s1_12680_27313532?mb_edition=20180922

Seems Jimmy is evolving into that uber-driven, hard working, player - that for whatever reason continues to struggle to get buy-in from his teammates to follow his lead.

That's one way of looking at it

[jsglow]

I'll ask again.  Does Jimmy's 'heart' push an uber talented but somewhat underperforming Bucks team over the top?  He'd be a freakin' hero in Milwaukee if he led them to a series of deep playoff runs.

[Cooby Snacks]

I'll ask again.  Does Jimmy's 'heart' push an uber talented but somewhat underperforming Bucks team over the top?  He'd be a freakin' hero in Milwaukee if he led them to a series of deep playoff runs.

"Heart" doesn't space the floor on offense, so I'd wager no.

[wadesworld]

Him and Kyrie will play together somewhere.

And it won't end well.

[Silkk the Shaka]

Jimmy is a killer, Towns & Wiggins are soft. Oil & water.

[LloydsLegs]

I saw this topic, and I swear to god I thought it was about our other JayBee

[jsglow]

"Heart" doesn't space the floor on offense, so I'd wager no.

That has been the argument.  But they haven't won a playoff series in 20 years so there's that.

[Dr. Blackheart]

I saw this topic, and I swear to god I thought it was about our other JayBee

Reverse "JB" and "Minny" in the thread title and you have your topic (nh)

[MUfan12]

Jimmy needs to be the alpha. That's not happnin' while Giannis is here.

[GooooMarquette]

Jimmy needs to be the alpha. That's not happnin' while Giannis is here.

Absolutely love JFB...but if he keeps needing to be the alpha, he may retire without a ring.

[Newsdreams]

Jimmy needs to be the alpha. That's not happnin' while Giannis is here.

Don't think he needs to be the alpha but if he seed others not giving 100% and just going through the motions he is going to call them out. Plus this is ongoing on NBA thread he could really cash out in the free agent market. Minnesota wouldn't be able to match so it would be better for the Timberwolves to get something for him via trade.

[GGGG]

I think it is entirely possible that JFB goes out 100%, wants his teammates to do more....and is still an assh*le how he goes about it.  Look, I don't think he's a "diva," but he could just simply be difficult to work with.

[cheebs09]

Wolves just signed KAT to a huge contract. Some internet rumors suggesting JFB got a little too cozy with KAT's girlfriend.

[Newsdreams]

Wolves just signed KAT to a huge contract. Some internet rumors suggesting JFB got a little too cozy with KAT's girlfriend.

We are TMZ 

[GooooMarquette]

I think it is entirely possible that JFB goes out 100%, wants his teammates to do more....and is still an assh*le how he goes about it.  Look, I don't think he's a "diva," but he could just simply be difficult to work with.

That's the sense I've gotten from what I have read. Tact and diplomacy apparently aren't his strengths.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

I think it is entirely possible that JFB goes out 100%, wants his teammates to do more....and is still an assh*le how he goes about it.  Look, I don't think he's a "diva," but he could just simply be difficult to work with.

I love Jimmy. But he's definitely a diva.

[GGGG]

I love Jimmy. But he's definitely a diva.

Nope.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Nope.

He's been nothing but a diva in MN. It's kinda sad. KAT and Wiggins aren't cut from the same cloth, but Jimmy has gone about all this the wrong way.

Like I said, I love the guy. But as a wolves fan, pretty shitty the way he's handled this.

[GGGG]

He's been nothing but a diva in MN. It's kinda sad. KAT and Wiggins aren't cut from the same cloth, but Jimmy has gone about all this the wrong way.

Like I said, I love the guy. But as a wolves fan, pretty crapty the way he's handled this.

Nah. He hasn't been public in his criticisms. Doesn't aire his grievances. He's just difficult to please in the locker room.

Not a diva.

[Benny B]

Hard workers are divas in the eyes of the lazy.

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

In asdition to KAT i have read that he doesnt like Wiigins n says they are both lazy and not committed to winning, but management is committed to them. So why stay.  Agree tho that the destinations are odd tho.

[Herman Cain]

In asdition to KAT i have read that he doesnt like Wiigins n says they are both lazy and not committed to winning, but management is committed to them. So why stay.  Agree tho that the destinations are odd tho.

This is professional basketball. Everything is about money. T Wolves just shelled out the super max for KAT. They have not been willing to do that for JFB. All the rest is posturing by the parties. The teams on JFB list are all poorly run historically and will be more likely to give him the money he wants.