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Author Topic: Cord cutting revisited  (Read 87858 times)

muwarrior69

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Re: Cord cutting revisited
« Reply #600 on: February 16, 2023, 01:06:04 PM »
I see Youtube has exclusive rights to Sunday Ticket. It could be the demise of DirecTV's satellite service as they switch to streaming.

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Re: Cord cutting revisited
« Reply #601 on: March 16, 2023, 03:00:00 PM »
YouTube TV raising its monthly fee $8.
Ouch.

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Re: Cord cutting revisited
« Reply #602 on: March 16, 2023, 03:08:47 PM »
Ditched cable last fall and love it.

We have five TVs in the house, only one of which is a "smart" TV, so Roku sticks work well. And, the best part is, no wiring needs.

Have YouTube TV and love it. Miss out on almost nothing. Watched every Warriors game this year,

Also get the NBC5 Chicago news at 5/6 and 10 p.m., so I can stay close to Chicago.

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Re: Cord cutting revisited
« Reply #603 on: March 16, 2023, 03:29:47 PM »
YouTube TV raising its monthly fee $8.
Ouch.

Not terribly surprising. I'm honestly more surprised it stayed flat for three years.

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Re: Cord cutting revisited
« Reply #604 on: March 16, 2023, 03:35:49 PM »
YouTube TV raising its monthly fee $8.
Ouch.
They seem to be going down the path of cable bloat thinking they need to offer 100's of channels.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

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Re: Cord cutting revisited
« Reply #605 on: March 16, 2023, 07:55:13 PM »
I remember when YTTV was about $35, 6 years ago. Those were the days.

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Re: Cord cutting revisited
« Reply #606 on: March 16, 2023, 08:04:52 PM »
I remember when YTTV was about $35, 6 years ago. Those were the days.

6 years ago $35 dollars was like 55 in today's money.

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Re: Cord cutting revisited
« Reply #607 on: March 16, 2023, 08:48:43 PM »
If they go over $80, it was fun while it lasted. I only really watch sports (EPL mostly and MU bball mostly), South Park, Sister Wives, and 1000 Pound Sisters.

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Re: Cord cutting revisited
« Reply #608 on: December 16, 2023, 12:12:14 PM »
Selfishly resurrecting this. Anyone have current thoughts on YouTube TV vs Hulu + Live? I’m dumping Spectrum, and I also subscribe to Hulu/Disney+/ESPN+, among others. Anything new and exciting? Any new drawbacks? Seems like price and product are very similar.

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Re: Cord cutting revisited
« Reply #609 on: December 16, 2023, 12:13:25 PM »
Price not as appealing as it once was, but YTTV still works for me pretty well

four- BOX on games is cool too
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Re: Cord cutting revisited
« Reply #610 on: December 16, 2023, 12:30:47 PM »
Price not as appealing as it once was, but YTTV still works for me pretty well

four- BOX on games is cool too

How do you handle the internet side of your YTTV? Local company like a Spectrum?

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Re: Cord cutting revisited
« Reply #611 on: December 16, 2023, 12:34:00 PM »
How do you handle the internet side of your YTTV? Local company like a Spectrum?

Yeah. (MediaCom, plus eero wireless mesh.)
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Re: Cord cutting revisited
« Reply #612 on: December 16, 2023, 03:10:13 PM »
Selfishly resurrecting this. Anyone have current thoughts on YouTube TV vs Hulu + Live? I’m dumping Spectrum, and I also subscribe to Hulu/Disney+/ESPN+, among others. Anything new and exciting? Any new drawbacks? Seems like price and product are very similar.

YTTV is great for layout, ease of use, etc…unlimited recording. (Most of what I watch is recorded).

The negative. Costs have gone from $35 a month to $82 a month in less than 5 years. (It’s shared among multiple locations which gives it more value).

No Ballys Sports Regionals. No MLB Network. No Tennis Channel. (they do have something called T2. I have TC Plus) They will have many of the others.

They had the rights to NFL Sunday Ticket, and apparently sales were better than expected of that.

YTTV is the closest thing to the former DirecTV/Dish/Cable consumer. Tons of channels. Many you will never watch. Some you might. Something for everyone in your family or group.

Customer service used to be fantastic. Then it was terrible. Now it has improved again but it isn’t like the old days.

Once they decide to stop carrying a sports channel for example, that channel is removed,  never to return.

So for me separate deals with regional sports networks for certain pro teams are needed. Or national packages like MLB Dot TV types of things. But I get some of these things included with my cell phone carrier. (T-Mobile) Free Apple sports for MLS. Free MLB Dot TV, etc…also included. You’ll need a separate sports regional app for NHL etc…most of which are bad. I have ESPN plus as well.

I fortunately have a very unique separate deal with cable for internet.






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Re: Cord cutting revisited
« Reply #613 on: January 05, 2024, 09:01:17 PM »
No Ballys Sports Regionals. No MLB Network. No Tennis Channel. (they do have something called T2. I have TC Plus) They will have many of the others.
I fortunately have a very unique separate deal with cable for internet.

YTTV did get the Tennis Channel back -- it is in the sports add-on.  Do you like TC Plus?  I have heard horror stories.

One warning about Hulu + Live TV: You cannot FF through commercials on a program that is still airing. 

So, if you are recording the Marquette game and planning to start watching 20 minutes after tip-off and FF through commercials until you catch up -- nope, not gonna work.  You can FF through the game action, but not the commercials. 

This is true even if you have the "no ads" version of Hulu + Live TV.  This is making us switch to YTTV.


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Re: Cord cutting revisited
« Reply #614 on: January 05, 2024, 10:36:02 PM »
YTTV did get the Tennis Channel back -- it is in the sports add-on.  Do you like TC Plus?  I have heard horror stories.

One warning about Hulu + Live TV: You cannot FF through commercials on a program that is still airing. 

So, if you are recording the Marquette game and planning to start watching 20 minutes after tip-off and FF through commercials until you catch up -- nope, not gonna work.  You can FF through the game action, but not the commercials. 

This is true even if you have the "no ads" version of Hulu + Live TV.  This is making us switch to YTTV.


Previously Tennis Channel was included in the main YTTV package. Why would anyone pay $11 month for Tennis Channel, when they can pay $9 a month for TC Plus and have access to all tour events, every court, every match, first ball last ball 12 months a year? And it can often be obtained for much less money than that, 40% to 50% less.

Getting it back but paying $11 a month for it is not getting it back.

Full disclosure: I sometimes get TC Plus for free because I know some of the people there. If they forget to give it to me for free I just pay it on my own some years. And I’ve always gotten a deep discount when doing so. It’s pretty easy to find.

TC Plus has improved their past technical difficulties. It used to be very frustrating and tech support was bad. There is a Senior VP EP there that I don’t like at all. Not a nice person The other nice people are aware of this. Whenever I have a problem I am lucky that I can contact someone there that has a lot of pull and 100% of the time he passes on feedback. Gem of a dude.

Sinclair owns Tennis Channel which is the problem.

I should watch T2 or whatever it is more often on YTTV, but I just go straight to the TC plus app instead. Make sure you check for software updates periodically. But I can honestly say tech issues are rare (knock on wood) and have been rare for at least a year or more.

Some of the TC Plus broadcast analysts are good, like Laura Robson, Lindsay Davenport etc….some less so. But it’s all about the tennis and the ongoing match which I like. It could be two random players and those two players are the focus much of the time. I’m a bit unique in that I can watch sports on mute if I don’t like the broadcasters. I know that isn’t for everyone.

TC has lots of shows and features and has more of a celebrity component to it. Some like that. And in small doses it’s fine. TC Plus is mostly just matches. And all matches are very quickly available on replay and you can fast forward and rewind replay. You can’t live.

Brisbane, United Cup, Auckland etc have all had zero technical issues so far in 2024.

With the 4 majors on ESPN, ESPN plus also uses the world feed so it’s the same broadcasters as TC Plus often. (I’m a big ESPN Plus user.)

I am someone that needs to pick and choose the match I want to watch and I can switch at any time or watch a replay etc…

I record a gazillion things on YTTV, anything I want without hesitation since there are no recording limits. Some I never get to watch some I eventually do. I often won’t watch something live, I’ll just record it so I don’t have to sit through commercials etc…

With YTTV if you record something ahead of time, and you wait an hour to watch a two hour game or program, you can just zip through those commercials. You can pause etc…just make sure it’s set up to record. If you forget to record something and you watch it live but miss the first 20 minutes you can’t go back until it’s over. You can click record 20 minutes into it and go back after the completion of the event or recording and watch the entire event.

In my opinion Tennis Channel needs to have distribution similar to Golf Channel. Not worth an extra tier. Just get TC Plus. Wait for a discount offer. Just watch T2 which is included, until you get the deal or just pay the $109/yr. And yes it’s 12 months newer month to month which I don’t like.

If you have Roku you can set up TC Plus through Roku as an add on. And one year I was having tech issues with TC Plus, I called Roku and they quickly gave me a year of TC Plus free without much discussion. So that is a customer service work around by going through Roku. But I think the price discount offers are direct through TC Plus only.

Hulu: I have T-Mobile and they sent me a recent text saying I can receive Hulu included with my phone plan soon. I’ve never had Hulu. T-Mobile also includes MLB Dot TV (local team blackouts) but every other team/game. They include Netflix, MLS Soccer and some other things to with my plan.

YTTV picked up access to the NFL Sunday Ticket this season and it’s been a big $$$ add on success for them.

YTTV doesn’t negotiate at all with channels like Ballys. They also dropped MLB Network last season and I didn’t realize how many games I watched/missed on there. But again I have the MLB Dot TV. If MLB dropped blackouts on various outlets it would be great. It’s been discussed recently to work towards that.

YTTV is the closest thing to Satellite/Cable in my opinion. (and I had all of them) Been with YTTV for about 6 years. Streaming for 8. It was partial packages like Sling and those types of things until YTTV.

I have also tried Fubo, and D-Stream. (to watch MU I have also had FloSports and occasionally I will add/drop something like a Big 10 plus which is terrible for a game.) Prefer YTTV to all of them but as previously mentioned, cost has gone up a lot and a few channels have been missing. Customer Service is no longer great as it was when they started. It went from 10 out 10 to minimal with pandemic and it’s never come back at a high level since.








 

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Re: Cord cutting revisited
« Reply #615 on: January 06, 2024, 09:26:01 AM »
YTTV did get the Tennis Channel back -- it is in the sports add-on.  Do you like TC Plus?  I have heard horror stories.

One warning about Hulu + Live TV: You cannot FF through commercials on a program that is still airing. 

So, if you are recording the Marquette game and planning to start watching 20 minutes after tip-off and FF through commercials until you catch up -- nope, not gonna work.  You can FF through the game action, but not the commercials. 

This is true even if you have the "no ads" version of Hulu + Live TV.  This is making us switch to YTTV.

One more thing I don’t know if it’s the same on other outlets but you can click record all Marquette events or whatever it may be and you never have to hit record again as long as it’s under that category. So it’s not as though you have to frequently remember to record a re-occurring event like that.

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Re: Cord cutting revisited
« Reply #616 on: January 08, 2024, 06:13:37 PM »
Damn it. YTTV doesn’t have Lifetime. I’m trying to watch that gypsy rose stuff. This is crap!!
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Re: Cord cutting revisited
« Reply #617 on: February 07, 2024, 10:18:08 AM »
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Re: Cord cutting revisited
« Reply #618 on: February 07, 2024, 10:46:41 PM »
This could be a gamechanger for sports only fans.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/06/espn-fox-and-warner-bros-enco-to-launch-joint-sports-streaming-platform-this-year.html

If it encompasses a majority of all major college and pro sports, plus the basic comedy central, nickelodeon, Disney deal... minus all the awful channels. Then I'm sold.

 

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