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MUScoop => The Superbar => Topic started by: mu03eng on May 16, 2018, 04:19:00 PM
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Didn't feel like resurrecting the old thread. Curious as to anyone having gone the route I'm contemplating. Have DirecTV/AT&T for wireless, internet, and TV. Promotional pricing expires in July with DirecTV, I'm going to make a stab at negotiating a better deal but I'm seriously considering not even bothering and just killing DirecTV and going to Youtube TV. Yes, it's a skinny package and would lose a few channels one of us watches (Discovery, History, Lifetime, etc) but at $40/month it seems like a really great deal and actually expands the sports stations I get which is a big plus. So I have a couple of questions:
-Has anyone gone this route and seen any issues with their ISP increasing price, throttling your internet speed, etc?
-Any issues with lag or availability?
-Any issues with "making it work", I've been no uncertain terms that if I can't make it point and click for my significant other she'd rather just not have tv at all.
-Overall satisfied with the switch?
I welcome any thoughts or suggestions.
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Didn't feel like resurrecting the old thread. Curious as to anyone having gone the route I'm contemplating. Have DirecTV/AT&T for wireless, internet, and TV. Promotional pricing expires in July with DirecTV, I'm going to make a stab at negotiating a better deal but I'm seriously considering not even bothering and just killing DirecTV and going to Youtube TV. Yes, it's a skinny package and would lose a few channels one of us watches (Discovery, History, Lifetime, etc) but at $40/month it seems like a really great deal and actually expands the sports stations I get which is a big plus. So I have a couple of questions:
-Has anyone gone this route and seen any issues with their ISP increasing price, throttling your internet speed, etc?
-Any issues with lag or availability?
-Any issues with "making it work", I've been no uncertain terms that if I can't make it point and click for my significant other she'd rather just not have tv at all.
-Overall satisfied with the switch?
I welcome any thoughts or suggestions.
If your preferred route is cord cutting, then start paying massive amounts of money to Congress to reverse the net neutrality decision.
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I switched to Hulu live about a month ago and I havent regretted my decision. I lost one channel of significance to me, but gained so much more. Especially in my wallet. YouTube TV is a solid option as well. I was debating between both of them.
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Didn't feel like resurrecting the old thread. Curious as to anyone having gone the route I'm contemplating. Have DirecTV/AT&T for wireless, internet, and TV. Promotional pricing expires in July with DirecTV, I'm going to make a stab at negotiating a better deal but I'm seriously considering not even bothering and just killing DirecTV and going to Youtube TV. Yes, it's a skinny package and would lose a few channels one of us watches (Discovery, History, Lifetime, etc) but at $40/month it seems like a really great deal and actually expands the sports stations I get which is a big plus. So I have a couple of questions:
-Has anyone gone this route and seen any issues with their ISP increasing price, throttling your internet speed, etc?
-Any issues with lag or availability?
-Any issues with "making it work", I've been no uncertain terms that if I can't make it point and click for my significant other she'd rather just not have tv at all.
-Overall satisfied with the switch?
I welcome any thoughts or suggestions.
Glad you posted this, Eng.
Not that I can help, but I will be in the same situation in about 9 months when the 2-year deal is finished. I have already been doing research online, but the best info is from guys who have made the move to whatever it is they choose.
Hopefully, you will keep us informed of your situation/solution as you move forward. For me, it comes down to the sports packages. At least 90% of my DirecTV viewing is news or sports, so sports is really the deal breaker for me with any skinny package.
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Looks like DirectvNow just put in a VPN blocker. It was working great from multiple overseas locations until this "upgrade".
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Been using PSVue for the last 18+ months. Haven't thought about going back for any reason. I think I've missed two Marquette games each season, but go find a bar if you can for those.
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PSVue for me.
Although I have looked at doing this new spectrum choice tv for $21. (But they stupidly do not have a fireTv app)
PSVue has fs1 and also CBSSN. So all the MU games were televised last year for me.
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If your preferred route is cord cutting, then start paying massive amounts of money to Congress to reverse the net neutrality decision.
Nothing like providing the answer no one asked for.
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1) jes is axing for a timeout
2) I'm also interesting in this topic now that DirecTV has rolled out their DVR... I need sports and ID channel (and Fox News, duh). My situation is that I have a house and an apartment - I could use one account for both, yes? (I understand with DirecTV you get two simultaneous streams, or you can pay $5 for a third... so for me this seems like no problem).
I need to know any concerns I should have re: internet speed and suggestions on any particular TV & stream stick (nh) types. please halp
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1) jes is axing for a timeout
2) I'm also interesting in this topic now that DirecTV has rolled out their DVR... I need sports and ID channel (and Fox News, duh). My situation is that I have a house and an apartment - I could use one account for both, yes? (I understand with DirecTV you get two simultaneous streams, or you can pay $5 for a third... so for me this seems like no problem).
I need to know any concerns I should have re: internet speed and suggestions on any particular TV & stream stick (nh) types. please halp
Why? If someone makes a decision to "cut the cord" with regards to TV, they will be relying on their ISP for their content. ISPs will have a huge influence on speed, content, price once net neutrality is removed.
For example, someone with Comcast may see significant slowdowns with non-NBC sports channels. Or require extra cost to access channels outside their corporate partners.
It's all intertwined.
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Why? If someone makes a decision to "cut the cord" with regards to TV, they will be relying on their ISP for their content. ISPs will have a huge influence on speed, content, price once net neutrality is removed.
For example, someone with Comcast may see significant slowdowns with non-NBC sports channels. Or require extra cost to access channels outside their corporate partners.
It's all intertwined.
Oh no!!! Competition! I can’t imagine!
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Looks like DirectvNow just put in a VPN blocker. It was working great from multiple overseas locations until this "upgrade".
cut the cord for DirectvNow when the service first came on line and have not regretted it a bit. $30/month plus Netflix and that is all we need as a household.
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Oh no!!! Competition! I can’t imagine!
Thanks for your completely inaccurate assessment. Methinks you need to do a little more reading on the topic of ISPs, regional distribution and net neutrality.
Out of respect for those that wish to further discuss internet TV options, I'll leave this tangental topic.
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Been a cord cutter for a while. I use Youtube TV and love it. All of the players offer free trials so if I were you I would try them all out (based on compatible device of course) and see which one you like. I tried psvue, hulu live, sling, direct tv now and youtube tv. I settles on youtube Tv because I strongly preferred the interface and fluidity over the competition and the unlimited cloud DVR. On that topic that is my only real complaint about the cloud DVR. With youtube tv is will automatically convert any recording to the on demand offering (complete with commercials you can't skip). Depending on the program you will have the option to watch the recording or the ondemand but due to licensing some of the shows go completely on demand. Not a huge issue though because the commercials are typically 15 seconds.
I use it on my nvidia shield box in my family room, xbox in the basement and chromecast in bedroom. It is also now compatible with apple tv and roku.
Also, no consolidating all the media power to a couple ISP's is not "competition" wtf?
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Oh no!!! Competition! I can’t imagine!
No, pretty much the opposite. But they might not have mentioned that on your preferred news station.
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Haven't had cable for about four years now. Low maintenance though; I'm set with an HD antenna, Amazon Prime, and Netflix. I, for one, have also welcomed our Google Fiber overlords.
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cut the cord for DirectvNow when the service first came on line and have not regretted it a bit. $30/month plus Netflix and that is all we need as a household.
Glad to hear. I have been about to pull the trigger for about a week, and now that their DVR is up and running I'll probably go for it.
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Anyone want to give the 3 minutes overview of DirecTVNow?>
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1) jes is axing for a timeout
2) I'm also interesting in this topic
1. I'm hurt, Princess. I thought I was your No. 1 whipping boy.
2. No you're not.
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I looked at DirecTV Now, and while it has more channels (Youtube TV comes up a couple short) but it is pricier AND even the beta DVR seems way inferior to Youtube TV and I rarely watch anything other than sports live these days.
mueron, what is the real Youtube TV price? Says $40 a month, is it close to that actually once you factor in taxes, and anything else they take on.
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1. I'm hurt, Princess. I thought I was your No. 1 whipping boy.
2. No you're not.
Gentlemen, you're both pretty.....can we talk about the original topic now?
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Do any others have as much live sports for watching Marquette games as YoutubeTV?
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Do any others have as much live sports for watching Marquette games as YoutubeTV?
I have PS VUE and love it for watching sports and MU Games. FS 1 and 2 CBSSPORTS, and the ESPN family.
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Do most of the streaming services also have the Fox Sports local station - Fox Sports Wisconsin, etc?
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Do most of the streaming services also have the Fox Sports local station - Fox Sports Wisconsin, etc?
That one is the killer for me, AFAIK only YT carries this
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That one is the killer for me, AFAIK only YT carries this
We get FSNorth on Sling in Madison. MN games are carried on the main channel, but brewers, bucks & MU are carried on the alternate.
If you are looking for FS Arizona while living in Madison, you'd have to have a sports package---if that's offered.
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Looks like DirectvNow just put in a VPN blocker. It was working great from multiple overseas locations until this "upgrade".
Figured out how to get around it after some mucking around. So, I used to have Directv plus individual subscriptions to NBA, NFL, etc. All in it was over $250/month. Now it's Directv Now at about $80/month and HBO /ESPN/Cinemax/Starz etc. all work also through Apple TV using Directv login. The only ones that don't (yet) are TBS and TNT - they only work live.
So, huge savings, easier to use (through Apple TV), very good Directv Now app, and it works on phone, computer, apple TV, etc.
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I looked at DirecTV Now, and while it has more channels (Youtube TV comes up a couple short) but it is pricier AND even the beta DVR seems way inferior to Youtube TV and I rarely watch anything other than sports live these days.
mueron, what is the real Youtube TV price? Says $40 a month, is it close to that actually once you factor in taxes, and anything else they take on.
I got in when it was $35 but that's it. Straight up $35 no taxes or additional fees.
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I got in when it was $35 but that's it. Straight up $35 no taxes or additional fees.
Awesome, decision made, thanks!
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I looked at DirecTV Now, and while it has more channels (Youtube TV comes up a couple short) but it is pricier AND even the beta DVR seems way inferior to Youtube TV and I rarely watch anything other than sports live these days.
I would actually have gone for Youtube TV, but they don't have it in my area yet. I'm signing up for a prepaid 3 month plan on DirecTV Now at $35/month because it includes a free Apple TV 4K. Depending on how well the three months go, I may check to see if Youtube TV is available after that.
Fortunately I don't watch much TV in the summer, so I'll be fine for 3 months even if it sucks.
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Haven't had cable for about four years now. Low maintenance though; I'm set with an HD antenna, Amazon Prime, and Netflix. I, for one, have also welcomed our Google Fiber overlords.
Google Overlords in Louisville go way of Pitino. Google Fiber pulling out of Louisville. https://www.fibre-systems.com/news/google-fiber-leaves-louisville-kentucky
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#1 thing I recommend to all people interested in cord cutting is to purchase an HDTV antenna. They cost around ~$30 and will give you all of your local networks (Fox, CBS, NBC, ABC) in HD as well as a few other random channels. For me this means local news and weather, football on Sundays, and primetime TV from the major networks. This is a ONE TIME cost which is the biggest benefit. Tons can be found on Amazon and they are not the old ugly rabbit ear antennas most people think of. Often they can be put out of sight.
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We just did the analysis a couple of months ago, and determined that by the time we pay for unbundled internet, hardware costs (HDTV antenna and a dvr for the local stations), Showtime (we have a several shows on Showtime we watch), and one of the many services (Sling, Hulu etc....) that we would be approaching the promotional costs of the providers, but would just have to switch services every couple of years.
Our promotional deal was up with Spectrum so we ended up going to TDS. Where we live it is supposedly fiber and gig speeds, but we do not get over 100 Mpbs. But overall, the monthly cost was not that much greater than monthly internet access, Sling or Hulu, Showtime and the TIVO fee.
Cord cutting certainly works if you do not watch a diverse group of channels or are willing to give some stuff up.
For us, not so much.
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Cord cutting certainly works if you do not watch a diverse group of channels or are willing to give some stuff up.
Yep really what it comes down to.
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We just did the analysis a couple of months ago, and determined that by the time we pay for unbundled internet, hardware costs (HDTV antenna and a dvr for the local stations), Showtime (we have a several shows on Showtime we watch), and one of the many services (Sling, Hulu etc....) that we would be approaching the promotional costs of the providers, but would just have to switch services every couple of years.
Our promotional deal was up with Spectrum so we ended up going to TDS. Where we live it is supposedly fiber and gig speeds, but we do not get over 100 Mpbs. But overall, the monthly cost was not that much greater than monthly internet access, Sling or Hulu, Showtime and the TIVO fee.
Cord cutting certainly works if you do not watch a diverse group of channels or are willing to give some stuff up.
For us, not so much.
Just wait until the OTT platforms have to actually make money and charge accordingly, the gnashing of teeth is going to be interesting.
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Google Overlords in Louisville go way of Pitino. Google Fiber pulling out of Louisville. https://www.fibre-systems.com/news/google-fiber-leaves-louisville-kentucky
No big deal. Taxpayers gave telecoms big bucks years ago to already have high speed infrastructure installed across the nation... Oh wait....
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No big deal. Taxpayers gave telecoms big bucks years ago to already have high speed infrastructure installed across the nation... Oh wait....
Yup, with timelines built in because magical unicorns don't exist where they rub unicorn horns and it happens in a year. Trenches get dug, fiber is laid, towers are installed, plants are built. That's called capital investment.....not sure you didn't include the time horizon in your quip.
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No big deal. Taxpayers gave telecoms big bucks years ago to already have high speed infrastructure installed across the nation... Oh wait....
The faster that high speed wireless and high speed wired internet are nationalized the better and cheaper itll be for everyone. Need to get the content creators out of the content transport business
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We just did the analysis a couple of months ago, and determined that by the time we pay for unbundled internet, hardware costs (HDTV antenna and a dvr for the local stations), Showtime (we have a several shows on Showtime we watch), and one of the many services (Sling, Hulu etc....) that we would be approaching the promotional costs of the providers, but would just have to switch services every couple of years.
Our promotional deal was up with Spectrum so we ended up going to TDS. Where we live it is supposedly fiber and gig speeds, but we do not get over 100 Mpbs. But overall, the monthly cost was not that much greater than monthly internet access, Sling or Hulu, Showtime and the TIVO fee.
Cord cutting certainly works if you do not watch a diverse group of channels or are willing to give some stuff up.
For us, not so much.
Where we found the savings was not so much in programing costs but rather in not having to rent 3 HD boxes with DVR. For Comcast in Chicago that is $60 / mo on it's own.
I now pay $60/ mo for ATT Fiber , $40 for DirecTVNow ($25/mo discount from AT&T unlimited cell Plan + no data cap since I have ATT Fiber), Free HBO from ATT. That comes out to $105ish after taxes where before Comcast had us at $160/mo.
I do agree 100% with a HD Antenna for locals.
Where
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cox cable and internet was costing me about $250/mo and limited ability to shut down the tv services while away. switched to centurylink for half the price and almost double the mgbps. i bought the modem for $150. hulu live with limited commercials and up to 2 devices per channel/show at the same time-$55/mo. total saved-approx $150/mo
up here, i'm in the process of switching my office phones to verizon. will cut my phone bill with spectrum in half. adding hululive on my 8 t.v.'s to my existing account for an additional $14.99/mo. my spectrum bill which was $510/month just went to about $220. includes upping my internet speed to handle the extra bandwidth i may need for the t.v.s might need an extender? total saved-approx $300/mo
grand total saved-approx $450/mo or $5000/year+
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$510 a month for spectrum?!? That's a lot of cavities doc.
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Yup, with timelines built in because magical unicorns don't exist where they rub unicorn horns and it happens in a year. Trenches get dug, fiber is laid, towers are installed, plants are built. That's called capital investment.....not sure you didn't include the time horizon in your quip.
I think you're missing the part where they didn't do what they said they would after taking the money
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$510 a month for spectrum?!? That's a lot of cavities doc.
cavities? nope, that stuff is on the house ;) no charge for t.v. or internet
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#1 thing I recommend to all people interested in cord cutting is to purchase an HDTV antenna. They cost around ~$30 and will give you all of your local networks (Fox, CBS, NBC, ABC) in HD as well as a few other random channels. For me this means local news and weather, football on Sundays, and primetime TV from the major networks. This is a ONE TIME cost which is the biggest benefit. Tons can be found on Amazon and they are not the old ugly rabbit ear antennas most people think of. Often they can be put out of sight.
There’s no such thing as an “HD Antenna.” Any TV antenna will pick up SD and HD OTA broadcasts just the same.
If you’re serious about OTA, you need a DB-4 or DB-8 antenna. From my house, I get Milwaukee, Madison, Chicago and South Bend broadcasts - in beautiful HD - with a homemade DB-4 made from a 2x4, some old coat hangers and a few stainless steel screws.
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There’s no such thing as an “HD Antenna.” Any TV antenna will pick up SD and HD OTA broadcasts just the same.
If you’re serious about OTA, you need a DB-4 or DB-8 antenna. From my house, I get Milwaukee, Madison, Chicago and South Bend broadcasts - in beautiful HD - with a homemade DB-4 made from a 2x4, some old coat hangers and a few stainless steel screws.
Ya gotta be good at something, aina?
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I think you're missing the part where they didn't do what they said they would after taking the money
The money is tied to reaching specific measured metrics over time. Look, I get you hate corporate America and there is plenty to hate on, but not all is evil.
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From my house, I get Milwaukee, Madison, Chicago and South Bend broadcasts - in beautiful HD - with a homemade DB-4 made from a 2x4, some old coat hangers and a few stainless steel screws.
I'm jealous. When I cut the cord, I faithfully bought a Tivo and antenna.
My problem, I'm 2 miles from every local transmitter. You'd think that'd be fantastic, but instead, it's awful. I've tried 5 different antennas .. in a bunch of locations and orientations. I've tried bare wires and paperclips. Nothing gets me consistent signals of the 5 major channels. Got tired of watching DVR'd stuff that was all jumbled.
So .. I gave up on the Tivo and watch all locals via streaming. >:(
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Can’t believe no one has brought up Locast, the free app that streams all the broadcast channels. NYT covered the economics of broadcasting and the legality of the app a couple weeks ago. The short version for y’all too lazy to read it: it (and others like it) are likely here to stay, all the better for consumers.
http://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/31/business/locast-streaming-free-network-tv.amp.html
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I'm jealous. When I cut the cord, I faithfully bought a Tivo and antenna.
My problem, I'm 2 miles from every local transmitter. You'd think that'd be fantastic, but instead, it's awful. I've tried 5 different antennas .. in a bunch of locations and orientations. I've tried bare wires and paperclips. Nothing gets me consistent signals of the 5 major channels. Got tired of watching DVR'd stuff that was all jumbled.
So .. I gave up on the Tivo and watch all locals via streaming. >:(
I have a similar problem. I am relatively close to the local TV transmitters, but there is a large ridge not far behind my house that prevents the signal from getting to my house. I've tried a few things, but nothing gets me a decent signal. DTV antennas (or McGuyver workarounds) are great for most people, but don't work for everyone.
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So apparently we are not out of the cord cutting program...yet. I noticed that I do not get CBS Sports Network with our TDS package so I decided to try a free Youtube TV trial for Wed night's game. My wife has been unhappy that we don't get Turner Movie Classics with our TDS package and is now binge watching that on Youtube TV.
So I did some (more) comparisons. With Youtube TV we would pick up a ton of sports channels that we currently do not get and only lose Food Network and HGTV. We can pick those two up via Philo if we desire. So YouTube is $40, Philo is $16 (maybe), showtime addon is $7. So now just need to find reliable internet for around $50 and we could switch and not be out any money per month (maybe even save some if we do not add Philo) and get better sports options with unlimited online DVR capability. Right now we are at about $125 per month total. We might be able to get that down to $100(ish).
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So apparently we are not out of the cord cutting program...yet. I noticed that I do not get CBS Sports Network with our TDS package so I decided to try a free Youtube TV trial for Wed night's game. My wife has been unhappy that we don't get Turner Movie Classics with our TDS package and is now binge watching that on Youtube TV.
So I did some (more) comparisons. With Youtube TV we would pick up a ton of sports channels that we currently do not get and only lose Food Network and HGTV. We can pick those two up via Philo if we desire. So YouTube is $40, Philo is $16 (maybe), showtime addon is $7. So now just need to find reliable internet for around $50 and we could switch and not be out any money per month (maybe even save some if we do not add Philo) and get better sports options with unlimited online DVR capability. Right now we are at about $125 per month total. We might be able to get that down to $100(ish).
This is what I do. I only subscribe to Philo when a season we want to watch is complete. I think we will have it 7 months this year due to not being able to binge as much.
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So apparently we are not out of the cord cutting program...yet. I noticed that I do not get CBS Sports Network with our TDS package so I decided to try a free Youtube TV trial for Wed night's game. My wife has been unhappy that we don't get Turner Movie Classics with our TDS package and is now binge watching that on Youtube TV.
So I did some (more) comparisons. With Youtube TV we would pick up a ton of sports channels that we currently do not get and only lose Food Network and HGTV. We can pick those two up via Philo if we desire. So YouTube is $40, Philo is $16 (maybe), showtime addon is $7. So now just need to find reliable internet for around $50 and we could switch and not be out any money per month (maybe even save some if we do not add Philo) and get better sports options with unlimited online DVR capability. Right now we are at about $125 per month total. We might be able to get that down to $100(ish).
Just make sure the internet you get is high speed. YouTube TV is awesome but seems to be a bandwidth hog
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Just make sure the internet you get is high speed. YouTube TV is awesome but seems to be a bandwidth hog
I would assume 100 Mpbs would be plenty?
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I haven't gone down the cord cutting path. I need ACC Network and Big Ten Network to watch the kids plus Fox News FS1 and all the other channels Big East teams are on. The Missus likes all her cooking and outdoor shows. So we just stick with it.
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I would assume 100 Mpbs would be plenty?
That'll do
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Hmm .. the idea that YouTubeTV requires any different amount of bandwidth does not make sense. A stream is a stream. Youtube suggests 13 Mbps per stream for reliability on an HD stream.
https://support.google.com/youtubetv/answer/7129766?hl=en
If you currently can watch Youtube videos without issue, you're likely not going to have any problems with YoutubeTV.
It's also hard to make generalizations on internet stream quality, from region to region, home to home. You could have a 25 meg fiber connection that has far less packet loss, latency, and jitter than a 300 meg coax cable connection. (And vice versa, frankly.)
So the best advice is .. figure how many HD streams you'd run simultaneously in your home, and multiply that by ~10, and that's your minimum.
In honesty, 100 megs is nice, but double what you really need. (Source: networking is part of my job.) -- Until 4 months ago, my household had 15 M service for a family of 4. It was absolutely fine.
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To echo topper, we only had 60 mbps when we went to YouTubeTV. I went max out the line, 4 TVs, daughter on iPad, wife on laptop and playing COD. Barely an issue. I only had to bump up to 100 mbps due to data limits.
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Thanks guys!
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I'm jealous. When I cut the cord, I faithfully bought a Tivo and antenna.
My problem, I'm 2 miles from every local transmitter. You'd think that'd be fantastic, but instead, it's awful. I've tried 5 different antennas .. in a bunch of locations and orientations. I've tried bare wires and paperclips. Nothing gets me consistent signals of the 5 major channels. Got tired of watching DVR'd stuff that was all jumbled.
So .. I gave up on the Tivo and watch all locals via streaming. >:(
TV signals can bounce and reflect off trees, buildings, etc. What probably happened is that you bought an omnidirectional antenna and because the signal was so strong you were picking up the main signal along with a reflected “ghost” signal, which the TV cannot process and clean up, resulting in a jumbled signal.
Put a sheet of wire mesh 1” behind the entire antenna on the side opposite the direction of the transmitter, and it will clear it right up.
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TV signals can bounce and reflect off trees, buildings, etc. What probably happened is that you bought an omnidirectional antenna and because the signal was so strong you were picking up the main signal along with a reflected “ghost” signal, which the TV cannot process and clean up, resulting in a jumbled signal.
Put a sheet of wire mesh 1” behind the entire antenna on the side opposite the direction of the transmitter, and it will clear it right up.
Benny: is there anything he can't fix? What a macgyver.
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Benny: is there anything he can't fix? What a macgyver.
Well, we haven't seen him weigh in on the torn meniscus thread, now have we?
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Ban des guys^^^^^^^^^^^
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Benny: is there anything he can't fix?
Flying during a snowstorm.
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The other option to resolve OTA broadcast issues is installing an in-line attenuator. In urban areas, the signal can be "too strong" and essentially it cuts the strength without losing quality. I bought a 3 pack of varying strengths and figured out which was the best fit for my situation. (Bear in mind I am using a 10+ year old plasma TV, which may not have all that modern an HD tuner).
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41LFNNae9uL._AC_US218_.jpg)
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Gettin' any ghosts on dat plasma, hey?
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Flying during a snowstorm.
I'm pretty content with my plane not getting off the ground this morning because odds are it would have returned to the ground at MSP about 500' earlier than expected.
Mystic wanted to charge me a fee inside the 24 hour cancellation deadline... fortunately, I fixed that too despite being the lowest roller of the bunch when I hit the tables there.
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Gettin' any ghosts on dat plasma, hey?
Not really. I don't watch much of anything with a ticker at the bottom.
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The other option to resolve OTA broadcast issues is installing an in-line attenuator. In urban areas, the signal can be "too strong" and essentially it cuts the strength without losing quality. I bought a 3 pack of varying strengths and figured out which was the best fit for my situation. (Bear in mind I am using a 10+ year old plasma TV, which may not have all that modern an HD tuner).
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41LFNNae9uL._AC_US218_.jpg)
Does the plasma double as a space-heater in the winter?
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You people are all anti-plasmaites. It replaced a console TV with Hi-Fi in an oak cabinet.
It really doesn't get hot.
Ghosting is minimal - for a 10+ year old plasma, that's awesome.
Great picture despite being only 720p. (honestly looks better than some 1080p LCD/LEDs I've seen).
It has excellent speakers.
http://www.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/plasmatvreviews/panasonic-th42px600u-review.html
It's the sh!t for 2006.
(i should get a new tv, until then: get off my lawn)
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You people are all anti-plasmaites. It replaced a console TV with Hi-Fi in an oak cabinet.
It really doesn't get hot.
Ghosting is minimal - for a 10+ year old plasma, that's awesome.
Great picture despite being only 720p. (honestly looks better than some 1080p LCD/LEDs I've seen).
It has excellent speakers.
http://www.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/plasmatvreviews/panasonic-th42px600u-review.html
It's the sh!t for 2006.
(i should get a new tv, until then: get off my lawn)
If your still rocking a plasma, ya need to pickup a 400 dollar TV that weighs less and looks better buddy
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How's dat Betamax treatin' ya, hey?
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Not really. I don't watch much of anything with a ticker at the bottom.
Hah, besides MU games of course.
Seriously though, weren't the concerns over plasma seriously overblown, very early issues? I'm pretty sure you'd have to be a complete idiot and leave your TV on for days or weeks with the same image going, to experience any "ghosting" that would be more than a momentary annoyance.
I don't think the major reason they didn't catch on was how well they worked but more to do with weight. My parents still have one and I think it weighs 80 lbs. The still picture quality is great, and it is ideal for action/sports/fast-moving stuff. But the average person would struggle to mount one of these things on the wall, and surely most retailers would prefer to sell 55-65" TVs that weigh 25 lbs versus ones that weigh 150 lbs.
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How's dat Betamax treatin' ya, hey?
Come on man, laser disc.
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Hah, besides MU games of course.
Seriously though, weren't the concerns over plasma seriously overblown, very early issues? I'm pretty sure you'd have to be a complete idiot and leave your TV on for days or weeks with the same image going, to experience any "ghosting" that would be more than a momentary annoyance.
I don't think the major reason they didn't catch on was how well they worked but more to do with weight. My parents still have one and I think it weighs 80 lbs. The still picture quality is great, and it is ideal for action/sports/fast-moving stuff. But the average person would struggle to mount one of these things on the wall, and surely most retailers would prefer to sell 55-65" TVs that weigh 25 lbs versus ones that weigh 150 lbs.
It's weight and energy use. Once the EU banned the sale it sort of kills the market. I do miss my old Panasonic Plasma though the LG OLED helping me thru these troubled times.
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Switched from DirectTV to YouTubeTv and Philo at the recommendation of PTM. I'm saving $120 a month. Still get my local channels and regional sports network so I can get all the Marquette and Cubs games still.
I access YTTV and Philo from my Roku sticks/Roku TVs which have several free channels filled with TV shows and movies. So I am paying $120 less a month for more content.
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Does anyone know whether Fox Sports Wisconsin could be pulled from any of these providers depending on who buys them? Disney is in the process of selling FS-WI (and other Fox Regional Sports Networks). I have Spectrum now and have looked at all the other options including DirecTV which I think I can get a decent introductory rate for a 2 year commitment. My concern is if FS-WI gets sold could it get pulled from all these providers? I asked an ATT/DirecTV rep yesterday and they didn't really know the answer. Maybe I'm overthinking this.
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Does anyone know whether Fox Sports Wisconsin could be pulled from any of these providers depending on who buys them? Disney is in the process of selling FS-WI (and other Fox Regional Sports Networks). I have Spectrum now and have looked at all the other options including DirecTV which I think I can get a decent introductory rate for a 2 year commitment. My concern is if FS-WI gets sold could it get pulled from all these providers? I asked an ATT/DirecTV rep yesterday and they didn't really know the answer. Maybe I'm overthinking this.
After much thinking, I think you are overthinking this. Whoever buys will want it in as many homes as possible.
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Does anyone know whether Fox Sports Wisconsin could be pulled from any of these providers depending on who buys them? Disney is in the process of selling FS-WI (and other Fox Regional Sports Networks). I have Spectrum now and have looked at all the other options including DirecTV which I think I can get a decent introductory rate for a 2 year commitment. My concern is if FS-WI gets sold could it get pulled from all these providers? I asked an ATT/DirecTV rep yesterday and they didn't really know the answer. Maybe I'm overthinking this.
The contracts stay in tact regardless of who buys them. The bigger issue is down the road with the renewals as the cost of these RSNs and the people that actually watch them is completely out of balance. The share of a customer's bill for RSNs is high, but the number or people that watch is low. Thus, the costs are distributed unfairly to people who don't watch. More and more you will seem distributors not carry that content. It is why some of the cord cutting ventures are NOT carrying specific RSNs, because of the cost.
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Got an email from DTV Now that my package is being discontinued (JB? 4ever? ZFB? Who's going there first?), but I can keep it for now for an extra $10/month. I currently pay $40, and it's the basic option.
Check this list of channel lineups. Live a Little is my current one. The other 2 are new. I don't know what the hell happened, but they just made their product massively less appealing.
https://cdn.directv.com/content/dam/dtv/gmott/html/dynamic_channels/compare-packages-account-dynamic-livealittle.html
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Got an email from DTV Now that my package is being discontinued (JB? 4ever? ZFB? Who's going there first?), but I can keep it for now for an extra $10/month. I currently pay $40, and it's the basic option.
Check this list of channel lineups. Live a Little is my current one. The other 2 are new. I don't know what the hell happened, but they just made their product massively less appealing.
https://cdn.directv.com/content/dam/dtv/gmott/html/dynamic_channels/compare-packages-account-dynamic-livealittle.html
Agreed. I haven't been the biggest fan of their app to begin with so this may be what gets me to switch over to Youtube TV.
Chicos has been calling for these price increases for a long time now. I fear the ride may be over for us cord cutters sooner rather than later.
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Agreed. I haven't been the biggest fan of their app to begin with so this may be what gets me to switch over to Youtube TV.
Chicos has been calling for these price increases for a long time now. I fear the ride may be over for us cord cutters sooner rather than later.
Oh it is going to happen. Everyone is losing their ass. Several will bail out entirely. The only ones making money are the programmers (Disney, Fox, etc). Can’t run a business at a loss. As more and more people cut the chord, then the ball swings and the rates will go up on OTT. Pure economics. Will still take some time and some good deals for some time, but the cost of content cannot be absorbed at a loss like everyone is doing now.
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Got an email from DTV Now that my package is being discontinued (JB? 4ever? ZFB? Who's going there first?), but I can keep it for now for an extra $10/month. I currently pay $40, and it's the basic option.
Check this list of channel lineups. Live a Little is my current one. The other 2 are new. I don't know what the hell happened, but they just made their product massively less appealing.
https://cdn.directv.com/content/dam/dtv/gmott/html/dynamic_channels/compare-packages-account-dynamic-livealittle.html
Sorry to hear about your viewing options, I guess.
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Got an email from DTV Now that my package is being discontinued (JB? 4ever? ZFB? Who's going there first?), but I can keep it for now for an extra $10/month. I currently pay $40, and it's the basic option.
Check this list of channel lineups. Live a Little is my current one. The other 2 are new. I don't know what the hell happened, but they just made their product massively less appealing.
https://cdn.directv.com/content/dam/dtv/gmott/html/dynamic_channels/compare-packages-account-dynamic-livealittle.html
Dat's watt happens wen ya get older, orr sew eye've herd. Pay da bread, hey?
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Our family just cancelled Directv this last week, and upgraded our internet speed to 100 mbs. We got a Firestick and now have HuluLive for about half of what we were paying for Directv. The increased internet speed only ran us an additional $10.00/month. Net savings is like $40-$50 a month, and so far we aren't missing anything that we would have gotten on Directv.
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Our family just cancelled Directv this last week, and upgraded our internet speed to 100 mbs. We got a Firestick and now have HuluLive for about half of what we were paying for Directv. The increased internet speed only ran us an additional $10.00/month. Net savings is like $40-$50 a month, and so far we aren't missing anything that we would have gotten on Directv.
Any reason you chose Hulu over DirecTVNow and YoutubeTV?
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Oh it is going to happen. Everyone is losing their ass. Several will bail out entirely. The only ones making money are the programmers (Disney, Fox, etc). Can’t run a business at a loss. As more and more people cut the chord, then the ball swings and the rates will go up on OTT. Pure economics. Will still take some time and some good deals for some time, but the cost of content cannot be absorbed at a loss like everyone is doing now.
YouTubeTV just announced big increases. As I said, not only is it going to happen...it has to. Pure economics on the costs of goods.
https://techcrunch.com/2019/04/10/youtube-tv-gets-some-new-channels-and-a-hefty-price-hike/
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YouTubeTV just announced big increases. As I said, not only is it going to happen...it has to. Pure economics on the costs of goods.
https://techcrunch.com/2019/04/10/youtube-tv-gets-some-new-channels-and-a-hefty-price-hike/
Honestly, for what they've added $50 a month is still a steal. Once my deal with DirecTV ends in 9 months I'm moving to YoutubeTV without hesitation
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I watch about 5-10 channels, tops. Let me buy those, and I'm fine with all the others going dark.
Can you tell us again why we can't just buy channels ala carte?
I mean .. cord cutting/slim bundles/OTT v1.0 is not going well any more. What does v2.0 look like?
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Even with price increases not having box rental fees still saves me $45 per month. Paying $45 a month for every channel I want to watch on any of my tv's plus DVR for my 3 tv's or on any of my devices is great. Plus since I have ATT Fiber Internet & Cell Phone what I stream doesn't count against my data cap. All in after taxes I pay $115 for 100mb up & down + tv works for me.
Also, channel owners will only sell their channels in a group. For example, Viacom won't let you just buy MTV - you have to buy them all.
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YouTubeTV just announced big increases. As I said, not only is it going to happen...it has to. Pure economics on the costs of goods.
https://techcrunch.com/2019/04/10/youtube-tv-gets-some-new-channels-and-a-hefty-price-hike/
Except that the price increase of $10 coincides with a slew of new channels being added.
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I've been paying 50 dollars for VUE. I'll have to look into the others later tonight to decide which one I go with next. Still a hell of a lot cheaper then cable. I'm running 5 boxes with all sports. Easily would have been north of 200 a month at spectrum.
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With the amount the channels are charging distributors they have no choice. It will eventually become a parity situation, just a matter of how many years it takes.
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Any reason you chose Hulu over DirecTVNow and YoutubeTV?
hulu-live for about $55/mo. able to stream unlimited devices. switched to centurylink internet(Az.) increased mbps from 80- to 150 at half the price of cox and got rid of their tv. obviously. saves me almost $150/mo. and i can turn it on/off at will. spectrum only allowed me to turn it off twice but still charged me a fee just to hold.
doing the same up here-only keeping spectrum internet cuz centurylink sucks i guess. realized savings between office and home-between $200-250/mo. again, unlimited streaming. switched office phones from spectrum to verizon-saving $120/mo.
total savings-$$$
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Even with price increases not having box rental fees still saves me $45 per month. Paying $45 a month for every channel I want to watch on any of my tv's plus DVR for my 3 tv's or on any of my devices is great. Plus since I have ATT Fiber Internet & Cell Phone what I stream doesn't count against my data cap. All in after taxes I pay $115 for 100mb up & down + tv works for me.
Also, channel owners will only sell their channels in a group. For example, Viacom won't let you just buy MTV - you have to buy them all.
I am paying $600 a year for internet, and I find that to be .. reasonable. My family gets a huge amount of utility out of that $600, and I'm OK with that fee.
I'm also paying $600 a year for a streaming service. That's a crap-ton of money for what is basically entertainment .. 90+% of which, I do not watch. Raise that to $700, and I'm out.
I understand that Viacom (et al) doesn't want to sell me just MTV, but that's too farging bad. I want to watch Teen Mom and that's all. And maybe I'll forgo that entirely and Viacom will have zero dollars from me.
And don't get me started on ESPN and their Ocho channels, of which I haven't watched since FS took over the Big East. It absolutely kills me that $~150 of my $600 goes to a set of ESPN channels I never watch.
I get it, I get it. Viacom and Disney, et al, bundle. And this structure supports tons of minor channels that wouldn't make it otherwise.
As I said .. that was cable delivery v1.0. What does v2.0 look like?
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I am paying $600 a year for internet, and I find that to be .. reasonable. My family gets a huge amount of utility out of that $600, and I'm OK with that fee.
I'm also paying $600 a year for a streaming service. That's a crap-ton of money for what is basically entertainment .. 90+% of which, I do not watch. Raise that to $700, and I'm out.
I understand that Viacom (et al) doesn't want to sell me just MTV, but that's too farging bad. I want to watch Teen Mom and that's all. And maybe I'll forgo that entirely and Viacom will have zero dollars from me.
And don't get me started on ESPN and their Ocho channels, of which I haven't watched since FS took over the Big East. It absolutely kills me that $~150 of my $600 goes to a set of ESPN channels I never watch.
I get it, I get it. Viacom and Disney, et al, bundle. And this structure supports tons of minor channels that wouldn't make it otherwise.
As I said .. that was cable delivery v1.0. What does v2.0 look like?
Kail is such a slot, hope the beef between her and Janelle gets nasty.
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Can any of you nerdbaits help explain if and how having Fiber internet would impact streaming?
I may soon have Xfinity fiber and may go to YouTubeTV or another streaming service.. will the lag still be CRAZY for live sports (crazy = 15 seconds)?
Will having Fiber make a big difference in doing anything for me???
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Can any of you nerdbaits help explain if and how having Fiber internet would impact streaming?
I may soon have Xfinity fiber and may go to YouTubeTV or another streaming service.. will the lag still be CRAZY for live sports (crazy = 15 seconds)?
Will having Fiber make a big difference in doing anything for me???
BeeJay, fiber is gonna help wit yo constipation, aina?
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BeeJay, fiber is gonna help wit yo constipation, aina?
I’ve got the opposite issue, my man. In fact, on the toilet right now.
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I’ve got the opposite issue, my man. In fact, on the toilet right now.
God, Scoop is magnificent
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Can any of you nerdbaits help explain if and how having Fiber internet would impact streaming?
I may soon have Xfinity fiber and may go to YouTubeTV or another streaming service.. will the lag still be CRAZY for live sports (crazy = 15 seconds)?
Will having Fiber make a big difference in doing anything for me???
Maybe yes, likely no.
Fiber has extremely low latency. (You'll be happy with your Fortnite/Apex ping times.) But latency is not a big deal for streaming.
Streaming video buffers up X seconds of video. Fiber will fill that buffer quickly and efficiently, but it's still buffered, which means the sporting event you are watching NOW happened 5-10-20 seconds ago, whatever the buffer value is.
So .. if you're looking to watch sports in "real time" .. fiber versus cable won't have much (any) of an effect on that "lag."
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I’ve got the opposite issue, my man. In fact, on the toilet right now.
It won’t.
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Can any of you nerdbaits help explain if and how having Fiber internet would impact streaming?
I may soon have Xfinity fiber and may go to YouTubeTV or another streaming service.. will the lag still be CRAZY for live sports (crazy = 15 seconds)?
Will having Fiber make a big difference in doing anything for me???
It won’t.
The latency of streaming comes from how video is distributed via the Internet, which is is to say it was never designed to do that. The lives sports feed has to be digitized into a specific codec, hopping along the bunny trail over the various networks (CDNs) until it arrives ultimately to your device where it is utilized in the format that device can handle (bit rate, screen size, resolution, etc).
Tons of variability in that process, and you last part of that connection will likely make little to no difference.
The variability
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Looking at kicking Spectrum completely. ATT is offering 300 Mbps at a better price with a 1TB data cap. The one thing holding me back is the data cap.
If we're streaming on two TVs (one far more than the other), while also working from home a couple days per week, will we have to worry about it?
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Looking at kicking Spectrum completely. ATT is offering 300 Mbps at a better price with a 1TB data cap. The one thing holding me back is the data cap.
If we're streaming on two TVs (one far more than the other), while also working from home a couple days per week, will we have to worry about it?
You’re totally fine.
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Looking at kicking Spectrum completely. ATT is offering 300 Mbps at a better price with a 1TB data cap. The one thing holding me back is the data cap.
If we're streaming on two TVs (one far more than the other), while also working from home a couple days per week, will we have to worry about it?
A year ago, AT&T Fiber came to my neighborhood. I have the 100/100 1TB data cap plan. I had the same concern you did, thinking my family of 4 was going to hit the 1TB number.
We stream TV .. kids watch Youtube all the time.
AT&T will show your daily data consumption, and for the first month I watched it like a hawk. Figured our "data budget" was 33 gigs per day. Turned out we only exceeded 33 maybe 3 times per month .. we've never hit 500 gigs for the month.
So .. rest easy.
AT&T's current fiber plan is a 12-month promotion, 100 up/100 down for $50/month. With taxes it's $52. In a year, that'll go to $62/month.
Toast.net resells AT&T fiber. Same fiber, same company, it's just resold under the Toast.net brand.
Toast.net has a 60/60 plan for $45 a month with NO DATA CAP. It doesn't say it's any sort of promotion, so the rate doesn't expire.
I'm a network guy .. I would recommend the lowest plan -- 60 or 100 is absolutely plenty of bandwidth -- and they overprovision it 20%, so 60 is 72, 100 is 120.
I will be switching to the 60 plan at Toast once my contract is up.
Your bandwidth needs are all about streaming. One 4k stream is 15-25 megs, so let's say 25. You could stream three 4K TVs and no one is doing that anyhow, at the same time.
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While technically not a cord cutter, just moved and set up a few TVs with Comcast/Xfinity. You can stream live tv via Roku devices via their app (I have one Roku TV and bought a cheap Roku for an older LCD on Amazon).
So I get live TV, cloud DVR, on demand...can’t pause live tv but can record if need be.
So no cable boxes, 150 MPS internet speed, and 200 or so channels (no premiums) for $80/month and will jump to $95 in a year.
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Seeking feedback for a current situation, thanks.
I have multiple accounts/locations for elderly and disabled family. For many years they have had Dish Network because it had the greatest value.
As of a week ago Dish no longer Regional Fox Sports Networks as it declined to renew the current deal with Disney. Sinclair is waiting for government approval DOJ/FCC. Disney asked for $20 billion and settled on $10 billion sale. Recent industry articles have suggested that it will be a prolonged dispute. Unlike some other markets they watch their Fox Sports Regional channel most days of the year. It’s big in their market.
Also to add insult to injury, local CBS affiliate has been dark for two weeks over dispute with Dish. Dish provides free antenna and installation for local channels to counter that one.
DirecTV’s first year price offer is actually higher than current every year Dish price. Then their price doubles in year two. Current Dish price includes free Pac 12 Network (many others do not carry, not a deal breaker but they are used to having it for years) They also use Dish’s DVR service and it is fine. Current Dish price also includes some movie channels which would have to be added to DirecTV offer.
Spectrum tv is also higher price year one to have similar channels. I could go down in either DirecTV or Spectrum to a lower tier but lose a few often watched channels for them.
I had them on Verizon mobile service for a long time but switched them to Sprint. Saved about $50 a month for similar, terrible customer service though by comparison.
Youtube tv looks to have the best tv channel offerings but $50 is not all that much different than current Dish pricing. And adding the wifi costs it will be higher.
At this point I am likely going to have to switch them to DirecTV or Spectrum in their market.
Anyone with any input that i am missing. Cutting the chord will be a bug adjustment to them as they are a mic of elderly and one disabled. But it can be done. Previously I have had pretty much all three tv carriers as well as a combo of Hulu, Netflix, Sling. Sling of course owned by Dish is involved in the Fox Sports Regional dispute.
So, they need the Fox Sports Regionals. Other sports channels needed for them are ESPN ESPN2, ESPNU, Fox Sports 1, NBC Sports, Golf, Tennis, CBS Sports (they really have poor distribution) Pac12 Network, ACC Network. I am aware that a change will possibly affect the last two. They also watch movies channels, some others as well as local over the air channels.
Dish has stated it is now trying to go after non sports viewers and let the sports people drop their services. They also want to switch their business model to be the 4th wireless mobile carrier snd have been putting money towards that for years. It was a great run with Dish but need those Fox Regional Sports channels for my family.
Thanks for any ideas.
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You can get a 2 year deal with price lock for Directv by going through an authorized dealer. Never do the 1 year deal that is offered by outside contractors that set up shop in retail stores. They offer no other service if you have issues as opposed to a dealer who you can call directly if you have an issue.
Not trying to push directv -just clearing up a misconception.
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You can get a 2 year deal with price lock for Directv by going through an authorized dealer. Never do the 1 year deal that is offered by outside contractors that set up shop in retail stores. They offer no other service if you have issues as opposed to a dealer who you can call directly if you have an issue.
Not trying to push directv -just clearing up a misconception.
Thanks. Multiple dealers offered me same thing. 2 year deal. But 2nd year doubles the first year price. Are you saying you can lock in the discounted first year price for 2 years? Example: $52.13 Choice package......but doubles to $110 year two in their offer. Contract is 2 years. I would likely be doing Choice or Extra package. First year price I believe includes Regional Sports fee $7 plus movie channels.
Thanks.
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Thanks. Multiple dealers offered me same thing. 2 year deal. But 2nd year doubles the first year price. Are you saying you can lock in the discounted first year price for 2 years? Example: $52.13 Choice package......but doubles to $110 year two in their offer. Contract is 2 years. I would likely be doing Choice or Extra package. First year price I believe includes Regional Sports fee $7 plus movie channels.
Thanks.
Yes. That is what I'm saying. I had talked to a contractor at Menards and they only offered a one year deal. I found a dealer in Milwaukee who offered a two year deal with the price locked at the same rate for two years. They also threw in NFL Sunday Ticket (watch all NFL games) free for the 1st year.
This was two years ago so I don't know if there is still the same deal. If you live in the Milwaukee area, I can give you the dealers name.
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Yes. That is what I'm saying. I had talked to a contractor at Menards and they only offered a one year deal. I found a dealer in Milwaukee who offered a two year deal with the price locked at the same rate for two years. They also threw in NFL Sunday Ticket (watch all NFL games) free for the 1st year.
This was two years ago so I don't know if there is still the same deal. If you live in the Milwaukee area, I can give you the dealers name.
Thanks. I will look for that. Not Milwaukee. I have lived all over, including, Milwaukee, Chicago. NYC, L.A., Nashville. But these family live in St. Louis. Charter and DirecTV have significantly more market share there than Dish. I knew one retailer from a previous DirecTV account. That deal was great as it was a commercial account and locked in every year deal. I am familiar with them setting up shop in stores such as Menards, Sam's Club, Walmart, etc...Anyway, it's frustrating, for example, they wanted to watch MLB baseball this week and their game was on 3 channels, Fox Sports Regional, NBC Sports Regional, and MLB Network. Game was blacked out on all three. However when it is an ESPN game, blackout does not apply. So, for them 162 MLB games, 82 NHL games, plus some local teams college football and hoops games...all for decent/contending teams, t's a must have for them. .....Thanks for the tip. I will see if I can get it for two years, and/,or something else with them, in addition to looking into the other options. Unfortunately for them, they can't even get weekend golf either which they like on Sat/Sun afternoons when around because Dish is having a dispute with its Meredith Corporation distributor. No CBS either. Soon that would include college and pro football on CBS, any shows they like etc...
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https://www.cordcutters.com/huludisneyespn-bundle-should-scare-hell-out-folks
Making me contemplate abandoning Netflix as the wife watches a lot of shows on our cable that she could get on Hulu.
Meaning I could drop DirecTV and Netflix. Stick with the Disney bundle and Amazon prime.
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https://www.cordcutters.com/huludisneyespn-bundle-should-scare-hell-out-folks
Making me contemplate abandoning Netflix as the wife watches a lot of shows on our cable that she could get on Hulu.
Meaning I could drop DirecTV and Netflix. Stick with the Disney bundle and Amazon prime.
I'm going to be a day 1 adopter of Disney+ but I'd wait until you go all in with their cord cutter package.......Disney does a fantastic job from a content library (having a dream set of content) but they have yet to show that they can do content delivery (think user experience).
Netflix has a killer delivery model but they may be out maneuvered by Disney in content library standpoint....it'll be fascinating to see which one wins.
Short term, this competition is going to be fantastic for consumers. Long term, I very worried about the content generators being owned by the content providers. That kind of vertical monopoly will never end well for consumers.
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I'm going to be a day 1 adopter of Disney+ but I'd wait until you go all in with their cord cutter package.......Disney does a fantastic job from a content library (having a dream set of content) but they have yet to show that they can do content delivery (think user experience).
Netflix has a killer delivery model but they may be out maneuvered by Disney in content library standpoint....it'll be fascinating to see which one wins.
Short term, this competition is going to be fantastic for consumers. Long term, I very worried about the content generators being owned by the content providers. That kind of vertical monopoly will never end well for consumers.
I think some of that fear is being realized. Interesting column here written 2 days ago:
https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2019-08-05/pay-tv-companies-are-too-powerful (https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2019-08-05/pay-tv-companies-are-too-powerful)
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I'm going to be a day 1 adopter of Disney+ but I'd wait until you go all in with their cord cutter package.......Disney does a fantastic job from a content library (having a dream set of content) but they have yet to show that they can do content delivery (think user experience).
Netflix has a killer delivery model but they may be out maneuvered by Disney in content library standpoint....it'll be fascinating to see which one wins.
I don't know if that will be true - at least for many years.
In 2018, Netflix had over 1,500 hours of original content. Of course they had more than that of non-original. HBO charges users more than Netflix with just a fraction of the content.
Whereas Netflix, in its early stages was where you went to find commercial free content from an assortment of sources. it is now the producer of massive amounts of content - both stand-alone and in cooperation with other studios.
If Disney works out as they plan, I think cable and satellite are the big losers, not Netflix. Disney/HULU Live/ESPN and Netflix and HBO will be all that is needed. I assume tens of millions will have Amazon Prime because of the free shipping benefit.
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I don't know if that will be true - at least for many years.
In 2018, Netflix had over 1,500 hours of original content. Of course they had more than that of non-original. HBO charges users more than Netflix with just a fraction of the content.
Whereas Netflix, in its early stages was where you went to find commercial free content from an assortment of sources. it is now the producer of massive amounts of content - both stand-alone and in cooperation with other studios.
If Disney works out as they plan, I think cable and satellite are the big losers, not Netflix. Disney/HULU Live/ESPN and Netflix and HBO will be all that is needed. I assume tens of millions will have Amazon Prime because of the free shipping benefit.
The question is how much of Netflix original content do people watch vs non-original content. For example, will consumers drop Netflix when NBC/Disney/other networks pull their content and leave Netflix with ONLY their original stuff?
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The question is how much of Netflix original content do people watch vs non-original content. For example, will consumers drop Netflix when NBC/Disney/other networks pull their content and leave Netflix with ONLY their original stuff?
We don’t know yet. And while some networks will almost certainly pull content from Netflix, others won’t.
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The question is how much of Netflix original content do people watch vs non-original content. For example, will consumers drop Netflix when NBC/Disney/other networks pull their content and leave Netflix with ONLY their original stuff?
Itll take a while to unwind some of the existing contracts but yes I agree a lot of go to content on Netflix that they dont own will disappear (Friends, The Office, Star Wars universe, etc already are). Netflix has definitely given itself a head start and they have a lot of power because of their algos in offering content and deciding what content to make but once they dont have guaranteed content with built in fandoms I think itll be hit or miss for them
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Really enjoying YoutubeTV and saving a crapton of money in the process. With football and hoops on the way, I'm thinking of adding an antenna to be able to watch the national games (actually) live.
I'm within 2.5 miles of the towers in MKE and can't get crap in with the indoor one. Anyone install, or have had a roof/attic antenna installed? I'm curious about how difficult/costly it is to do.
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Really enjoying YoutubeTV and saving a crapton of money in the process. With football and hoops on the way, I'm thinking of adding an antenna to be able to watch the national games (actually) live.
I'm within 2.5 miles of the towers in MKE and can't get crap in with the indoor one. Anyone install, or have had a roof/attic antenna installed? I'm curious about how difficult/costly it is to do.
Any chance you have an old DirecTV dish up there? If so, take it down and put the antenna up. Use the existing coaxial to your home. Worked really well for me.
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Really enjoying YoutubeTV and saving a crapton of money in the process. With football and hoops on the way, I'm thinking of adding an antenna to be able to watch the national games (actually) live.
I'm within 2.5 miles of the towers in MKE and can't get crap in with the indoor one. Anyone install, or have had a roof/attic antenna installed? I'm curious about how difficult/costly it is to do.
Eh I wouldn't bother with it. Your only like 10 seconds behind.
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Eh I wouldn't bother with it. Your only like 10 seconds behind.
You’re vs. your.
I cut the cord last week - moves to YTTV. So far, so good, but watching games while being on Twitter may be painful.
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You’re vs. your.
I cut the cord last week - moves to YTTV. So far, so good, but watching games while being on Twitter may be painful.
Sports with YTTV became a no-phone situation for me, it's been nice.
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Eh I wouldn't bother with it. Your only like 10 seconds behind.
Closer to 30.
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Really enjoying YoutubeTV and saving a crapton of money in the process. With football and hoops on the way, I'm thinking of adding an antenna to be able to watch the national games (actually) live.
I'm within 2.5 miles of the towers in MKE and can't get crap in with the indoor one. Anyone install, or have had a roof/attic antenna installed? I'm curious about how difficult/costly it is to do.
Rooftop ANT here, can't speak to cost because DirecTV gave us this one before they carried the locals but it's probably not much over $100, it almost looks like a lawn mower blade. Installation is simple, bought a pole and hardware at ACE, strapped it to the chimney and ran a ground wire to a 6 feet copper post I drove into the ground near the foundation. Have some one monitor the TV over your cellphone while you find the best position to aim for most channels.
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Closer to 30.
Yup. And I do enjoy having twitter up during games, which has been an adjustment. For baseball it's not a big deal, but I can see football being tough.
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Rooftop ANT here, can't speak to cost because DirecTV gave us this one before they carried the locals but it's probably not much over $100, it almost looks like a lawn mower blade. Installation is simple, bought a pole and hardware at ACE, strapped it to the chimney and ran a ground wire to a 6 feet copper post I drove into the ground near the foundation. Have some one monitor the TV over your cellphone while you find the best position to aim for most channels.
Looks great next to the 80s satellite dish in the yard next to the double wide, aina?
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It bears repeating for those in search of an OTA solution:
DB-4 Antenna (or DB-8 if you're really far away).
About 11 years ago, I made a DB-2 (half the size of a DB-4) out of old wire hangers, duct tape and an empty 20 oz. soda bottle, hung it inside the window of my 1st floor apt. in Buffalo Grove, and I was pulling in the NBC affiliate from South Bend despite my window facing out into a courtyard with some very tall shade trees. 100 miles away, and I was getting a stronger signal with a plastic bottle than any store-bought antenna. Today, I face my antenna north... I get all of the Milwaukee stations, one of the Madison affiliates (WKOW maybe?), all of the Chicago stations, and on rare occasions I can even pull a very faint signal for WFRV.
You can buy the DB-4/-8 antennas from specialty retailers online or you can build your own with a scrap 2x4 and some copper wire.
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It bears repeating for those in search of an OTA solution:
DB-4 Antenna (or DB-8 if you're really far away).
About 11 years ago, I made a DB-2 (half the size of a DB-4) out of old wire hangers, duct tape and an empty 20 oz. soda bottle, hung it inside the window of my 1st floor apt. in Buffalo Grove, and I was pulling in the NBC affiliate from South Bend despite my window facing out into a courtyard with some very tall shade trees. 100 miles away, and I was getting a stronger signal with a plastic bottle than any store-bought antenna. Today, I face my antenna north... I get all of the Milwaukee stations, one of the Madison affiliates (WKOW maybe?), all of the Chicago stations, and on rare occasions I can even pull a very faint signal for WFRV.
You can buy the DB-4/-8 antennas from specialty retailers online or you can build your own with a scrap 2x4 and some copper wire.
Put that chit on your resume, eh?
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Put that chit on your resume, eh?
The words "South Bend" will never be placed on my resume.
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Uh oh...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnet.com/google-amp/news/at-t-hit-with-lawsuit-alleging-it-faked-directtv-now-customer-numbers/
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Uh oh...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnet.com/google-amp/news/at-t-hit-with-lawsuit-alleging-it-faked-directtv-now-customer-numbers/
Sounds similar to Wells Fargo signing up customers for accounts they didn't want or need without their knowledge. That, of course, involved more money for most victims, but it's the same kind of sleazy business practice.
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I have a YouTube tv question, thanks.
If you have two homes in the same city, do you need two separate Youtube TV accounts? Or, could you use just one account for both locations? I know with Youtube tv, you can use up to 3 devices at the same time.
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I have a YouTube tv question, thanks.
If you have two homes in the same city, do you need two separate Youtube TV accounts? Or, could you use just one account for both locations? I know with Youtube tv, you can use up to 3 devices at the same time.
1 account. Follows you wherever you go.
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1 account. Follows you wherever you go.
That’s what I thought. Thank you very much.
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Just had to sign up for Hulu, due to the FS Regionals/Sling dispute.
Gotta say, Hulu's interface sucks the left nut. But, the dvr/delayed start for sports is nice.
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Sounds similar to Wells Fargo signing up customers for accounts they didn't want or need without their knowledge. That, of course, involved more money for most victims, but it's the same kind of sleazy business practice.
Looks like AT&T is looking to dump DTV...reason: Cord Cutting
https://www.wsj.com/articles/at-t-explores-parting-ways-with-directv-11568841544
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Looks like AT&T is looking to dump DTV...reason: Cord Cutting
https://www.wsj.com/articles/at-t-explores-parting-ways-with-directv-11568841544
Agreed.
As a T shareholder, I would welcome the spinoff.
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Agreed.
As a T shareholder, I would welcome the spinoff.
As a holder of T's Jan 39 calls, I welcome anything 82 welcomes with a 100x multiplier.
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Dish/Sling, without Fox Sports Regionals for months, now doesn’t have Fox Sports 1 (MU games) and Big Ten Network. It also now doesn’t have over the air Fox in many of the biggest markets (and some others) Nationally.
These are the over the air Fox markets affected:
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Dish/Sling, without Fox Sports Regionals for months, now doesn’t have Fox Sports 1 (MU games) and Big Ten Network. It also now doesn’t have over the air Fox in many of the biggest markets (and some others) Nationally.
These are the over the air Fox markets affected:
Sinclair bought the Fox RSNs, this will continue for quite some time and they will not be the only ones if I were to make an educated guess
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Sinclair bought the Fox RSNs, this will continue for quite some time and they will not be the only ones if I were to make an educated guess
Yep. Dish has not had HBO for almost a year and it does not appear likely to return. Sinclair has now owned Fox Sports Regionals for 5 weeks. No resolution in site. There have been periodic over the air network disputes recently (CBS, now resolved) and now Fox.
Dish said it isn’t going to bundle all of the Fox products together. They no longer will pay they $9 type costs per subscriber for sports networks. They want a new a la carte business model from these companies that sports fans only pay for. Dish has been open saying it’s a better financial deal for them to drop these networks a while knowing they will lose some subscribers/sports fans.
Did DirecTV work out a deal with ESPN and Tennis Channel?
I just tried to switch a couple of my accounts to DirecTV but had issues with some old giant trees at one location, and they said they couldn’t do it if it didn’t face Southwest. (Dish didn’t require that) .....so now sharing Youtube TV seems the best way to go as cable isn’t offering a strong deal. I understand all of these deals and prices are subject to change at any time. But television has become month to month at this point as opposed to the old days of years with same carrier. Frustrating but oh well.
I feel bad for older people and disabled people etc....that can’t get their games and programs. Many of those people out there.
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Yep. Dish has not had HBO for almost a year and it does not appear likely to return. Sinclair has now owned Fox Sports Regionals for 5 weeks. No resolution in site. There have been periodic over the air network disputes recently (CBS, now resolved) and now Fox.
Dish said it isn’t going to bundle all of the Fox products together. They no longer will pay they $9 type costs per subscriber for sports networks. They want a new a la carte business model from these companies that sports fans only pay for. Dish has been open saying it’s a better financial deal for them to drop these networks a while knowing they will lose some subscribers/sports fans.
Did DirecTV work out a deal with ESPN and Tennis Channel?
I just tried to switch a couple of my accounts to DirecTV but had issues with some old giant trees at one location, and they said they couldn’t do it if it didn’t face Southwest. (Dish didn’t require that) .....so now sharing Youtube TV seems the best way to go as cable isn’t offering a strong deal. I understand all of these deals and prices are subject to change at any time. But television has become month to month at this point as opposed to the old days of years with same carrier. Frustrating but oh well.
I feel bad for older people and disabled people etc....that can’t get their games and programs. Many of those people out there.
At&T did a deal with Disney (espn) a few weeks ago.
Distributors are caught in an impossible position. Don’t give in to massive price increases from studios and programmers....lose subs. Give in, and costs have to be passed on this raising prices to consumers. Unlike products where scale lowers cost by making widgets cheaper, that is not the case with entertainment.
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NBC sports and Dish now too? (At least nbc sports chicago)
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Just had to sign up for Hulu, due to the FS Regionals/Sling dispute.
Gotta say, Hulu's interface sucks the left nut. But, the dvr/delayed start for sports is nice.
agree. except it sucks my right one. at least i have fox regional back. Couldnt live without that
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NBC sports and Dish now too? (At least nbc sports chicago)
There are 7 NBC Sports Regional Networks. One is NBC Sports Chicago. One of its owners is the Cubs/Ricketts family. (Their stake is 20%....20% NBC, 20% Bulls, 20% White Sox,
20% Blackhawks) That will no longer be the case beginning October 1st as the Cubs will no longer be on the channel. So there is a new deal for a new version of the channel and some carriers have not yet completed deals. This is a recent Chicago Tribune article about it below. So, yes, it is only a thing with NBC Sports Chicago and that network making new deals with all of its carriers. It does not affect the national NBC Sports Network or the other 6 regionals. With Dish, in a non Chicago market one must get their sports package to get the channel. But even then, many games are blacked out to out of town markets.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/ct-nbc-sports-chicago-cubs-bulls-blackhawks-20190912-a2krtpmyi5bs7gedy7sra5pfte-story.html%3foutputType=amp
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Cord cutting has gone well for me. Still concerned for when bball season starts and I want real time. Fortunately I can go up several floors or down several floors and have xfinity connected TVs to watch on. Without that option, might be a little more difficult.
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Lookin at going to hulu. 8 teles in the 5 bedroom house but 3 kids in college so dont see the only 3 tvs at a time being an issue. I see hulu offers cbs sportnet, fs1 and fs2, is one able to pick up a sports pack that would incude the fox regionals? A few times a year the mu games ate only on a fox regional. Tyia
Additionally, do they have a pack that includes bein? Would hate to lose out on la liga
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Had a couple of updates that may help anyone out there. I know tv is seemingly a monthly frustrating thing.
1) Youtube TV. Had a free 3 week trial. I needed it a few more days than that. So, if you go on their website, follow prompts, you can request a phone call. I received one in 30 seconds from Silicon Valley location. They immediately gave me an additional free month without me asking or saying much at all. I also like that you can cancel any time but still receive the full trial and it simply ends at the end of the trial. Previously I was concerned about being able to speak with someone if need be. I know they have raised their prices as they have added some channels. But their prices are still better than Satellite/cable and being able to have multiple people on an account makes the savings pretty significant per month. I have had both Dish and DirecTV a long time. I was surprised there really was no competitive promotional price for Cable.
2) I wish I had known about some of the discounted internet earlier. I have a disabled relative that lives on their own, and Spectrum offers $15 permanent pricing internet per month for low income people. It’s more than plenty to stream video, watch games, etc...for them. I believe it is called Spectrum assist for them I’m sure other places have something similar. Saves a few bucks.
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I made this prediction awhile ago, finally came true today. Sony Vue is shutting down. In the end, there will only be 3 or 4 that will stand and the video world will be similar to what it was a few years ago....just a matter of time as consolidation and market forces solidify.
https://thestreamable.com/news/scoop-playstation-is-shutting-down-in-january
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I made this prediction awhile ago, finally came true today. Sony Vue is shutting down. In the end, there will only be 3 or 4 that will stand and the video world will be similar to what it was a few years ago....just a matter of time as consolidation and market forces solidify.
https://thestreamable.com/news/scoop-playstation-is-shutting-down-in-january
No surprise here. Psvue was amazing when it first came out and changed the course of the game. Disney and Google came in and gave them a smacking.
Good news is Hulu live and youtube TV are both much better options.
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No surprise here. Psvue was amazing when it first came out and changed the course of the game. Disney and Google came in and gave them a smacking.
Good news is Hulu live and youtube TV are both much better options.
YouTube loses money every subscription they sell. Every. Damn. One. AT&T did as well until last week. Streaming services survive only at the moment from bigger companies with deep pockets to prop them up.
Eventually that comes to an end, and people will be paying a lot more money then they do now.
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Hulu live or Youtubetv?
Thank you
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https://www.npr.org/2019/11/01/772064221/how-to-pick-the-streaming-tv-services-you-actually-want
Thought this my help.
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https://www.npr.org/2019/11/01/772064221/how-to-pick-the-streaming-tv-services-you-actually-want
Thought this my help.
Deggans knows his stuff, that’s a pretty good outline. I didn’t see him mention Fubo. I work on or with almost all of these services, or have friends that are employed by them. Each have their pros and cons.
I would recommend to people to look what is avail in their area, to. If local channels or sports are important, not all services have the rights in all areas. It might be a perfect fit in LA, but a bad fit in Milwaukee because of missing channels.
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Hulu live or Youtubetv?
Thank you
Depends what you want. Depends what you will be missing...the biggest thing we see when people leave they complain they are missing 3 to 5 channels they used to have. It comes down to how important are those channels for you.
For example, with YouTubeTv is A&E important to you? How about some (not all) of the Scripps channels. I believe they are missing some RSNs as well.
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Thanks—I’ve had sling and OTA. Great last year. Need to do something this year.
So, to answer the question—it’s all about the MU games..nothing else.
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Hulu live or Youtubetv?
Thank you
This is the best helper on the net.
https://www.suppose.tv/tv (https://www.suppose.tv/tv)
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Thanks—I’ve had sling and OTA. Great last year. Need to do something this year.
So, to answer the question—it’s all about the MU games..nothing else.
If you are in WI, YouTube TV has FS1, FS2, FS WI, and CBSSN, so all the games should be covered.
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YoutubeTV vs Hulu .. which one will be in the streaming business longer?
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YoutubeTV vs Hulu .. which one will be in the streaming business longer?
Those two will eventually merge.
Hulu needs to differentiate itself, and YTTV needs a larger platform.
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Those two will eventually merge.
Hulu needs to differentiate itself, and YTTV needs a larger platform.
Who's selling their portion off then? Disney w/ silent Comcast (Hulu) or Google (YTTV)? Or is there another JV between the two? I think they both stay in business. Google is currently moving all their media under the YouTube umbrella for video and audio. YT Music is now the default audio player for Android not Google Music. The YT brand will be Google's consumer driven platform. Hulu is essentially Disney's streaming service but they get Comcast content. How long does Comcast stay an equity investor is to be seen.
If I were to guess I would think YTTV stays with Hulu TV Streaming getting sold off. Though, I believe both stay for a while.
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Got an e-mail that ATT TV Now (formerly DirectTV Now) is going up to $60/month. Think it's time to jump ship. YouTube TV still the go-to?
Edited to add: I am currently on the grandfathered "Live a Little" package which has MTV. I suspect they are trying to price me out of this plan as it is no longer offered.
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Those two will eventually merge.
Hulu needs to differentiate itself, and YTTV needs a larger platform.
I beg to differ. Disney now owns almost all of Hulu. It’s their wedge against Google (YouTubeTV) and they don’t want to cede that. Fubo will eventually crumble.
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Got an e-mail that ATT TV Now (formerly DirectTV Now) is going up to $60/month. Think it's time to jump ship. YouTube TV still the go-to?
Edited to add: I am currently on the grandfathered "Live a Little" package which has MTV. I suspect they are trying to price me out of this plan as it is no longer offered.
Is MTV an incentive or disincentive?
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YTTV has been great for me. Except MU’s first game. But honestly, solid.
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Got an e-mail that ATT TV Now (formerly DirectTV Now) is going up to $60/month. Think it's time to jump ship. YouTube TV still the go-to?
Edited to add: I am currently on the grandfathered "Live a Little" package which has MTV. I suspect they are trying to price me out of this plan as it is no longer offered.
So far so good with YouTube TV. $50 a month for many/most channels of cable/satellite. Customer service has been great compared to the others. If you send message requesting a phone call you get one asap from CA. Was offered two months free to start. One negative... Movie channels are extra and priced similar to regular price of cable/satellite. (i never paid regular price for them) .
But $50 with the sports channels I want, and other channels I want minus movie channels, including no limit DVR etc. Pretty good right there. Having up to six people if wanted on the same account at different locations is the key for me. I already have 3. So $12 plus a month per household, plus internet costs. .. tough to beat. And I have received lower cost internet offer at two of three locations long term price.
DirecTV new customrr was $50 year one for everything including movie channels then re-negotiate as price doubles. One location couldn't get it due to huge trees at their house) Dish long term pricing is getting tough to keep in the $70's with Top 200 plus movie channels and free sports package. Cable was by far worst offer with $85 plus a month for a new customer. I laughed. The change for me was channel disputes with Satellite companies and distributors.
TV has become a month to month thing at this point for me. So when prices and packages change down the road sooner or later I will deal with it then.
If you want the closest thing to satellite and cable, YouTube TV is it. if you have one home on the account and you don't mind not having some channels, and lower cost is important, maybe look around. I know YouTube TV went up to $50 a month a few months back but for us there is still a big cushion for a while in price because of having multiple people on the account.
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So Glow and I are weighing our TV options for our new home in Wisconsin.
Hulu Live is looking good with local Milwaukee channels and Fox Sports Wisconsin. My question is, what channels will we be able to access when we are in other areas? I assume we won't be able to stream the local channels while we are in Las Vegas, for example, but what about all of the other cable channels that come with a subscription?
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So Glow and I are weighing our TV options for our new home in Wisconsin.
Hulu Live is looking good with local Milwaukee channels and Fox Sports Wisconsin. My question is, what channels will we be able to access when we are in other areas? I assume we won't be able to stream the local channels while we are in Las Vegas, for example, but what about all of the other cable channels that come with a subscription?
that's good question-i have 2 separate hulu accounts. one on my yahoo-unlimited-which i use at my office(8 tv's) and home(5 tv's) and the other on my gmail for arizona(3 tv's) i think you have to be able to access your internet provider which is why i believe i had to set up the 2 different accounts. yahoo-wisconsin-spectrum internet. arizona-centurytel internet. i can access either on my ipad/phone, but you have to check in on one or the other within a certain time span.
i may be doing this all wrong, but it's the only way i understand it and it's less expensive than paying for cable in 2 different locations by far. i'm open for other suggestions however. it has reduced my utility bill at the office/home by $2-300 and Az. by close to $150.
on another note-don't use verizon for multi-line office-brutal. switching back to spectrum phones
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So Glow and I are weighing our TV options for our new home in Wisconsin.
Hulu Live is looking good with local Milwaukee channels and Fox Sports Wisconsin. My question is, what channels will we be able to access when we are in other areas? I assume we won't be able to stream the local channels while we are in Las Vegas, for example, but what about all of the other cable channels that come with a subscription?
I have Hulu live and have not missed a game. Sometimes I have to sign into fox sports go app via my Hulu account but have yet to have an issue either at home or multiple times on the road in other locations.
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I was reading very mixed things about Hulu Live TV's DVR as well as its remote streaming privileges while not in your primary household that had me leaning towards YTTV. Interesting to know that remote streaming doesn't seem to be an issue with you Frenns
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Is MTV an incentive or disincentive?
Lol. I was mostly just mentioning that because at some point there rejiggered their packages when they were losing out on Viacom channels but I am still on a plan which has them.
That, but I'm also a The Challenge junkie. Cannot get enough of that show!
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Love me some Johnny Bananas!!!
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Question for the YTTV subscribers. I'm in the middle of a trial and while the live TV picture quality is fine, and even good at times, it's terrible for shows I add to the library/DVR. Like, standard definition terrible. Not watchable terrible.
Is this normal? Doesn't seem like it should be, but I can't figure out why such a discrepancy.
Any ideas why this is happening or if it can be improved?
Thanks much.
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Question for the YTTV subscribers. I'm in the middle of a trial and while the live TV picture quality is fine, and even good at times, it's terrible for shows I add to the library/DVR. Like, standard definition terrible. Not watchable terrible.
Is this normal? Doesn't seem like it should be, but I can't figure out why such a discrepancy.
Any ideas why this is happening or if it can be improved?
Thanks much.
What streaming device are you using, and what type of internet speeds are you working with?
We have had no problems with picture quality on a TCL Roku TV, or one on a Fire Stick. Our internet runs about 225 mbps.
Also, the YTTV Reddit is helpful for these things as well... And YouTube developers pop in and answer questions from time to time.
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What streaming device are you using, and what type of internet speeds are you working with?
We have had no problems with picture quality on a TCL Roku TV, or one on a Fire Stick. Our internet runs about 225 mbps.
Also, the YTTV Reddit is helpful for these things as well... And YouTube developers pop in and answer questions from time to time.
Thanks for the reply.
I'm also using a TCL Roku. Speed not nearly as fast as yours - usually around 35 mbps - but I've never had an issue with quality or speed running other streaming services, i.e. Netflix, or with my kid playing PS4, etc.
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Question for the YTTV subscribers. I'm in the middle of a trial and while the live TV picture quality is fine, and even good at times, it's terrible for shows I add to the library/DVR. Like, standard definition terrible. Not watchable terrible.
Is this normal? Doesn't seem like it should be, but I can't figure out why such a discrepancy.
Any ideas why this is happening or if it can be improved?
Thanks much.
I sometimes have an issue like that, but only for 10-20 seconds when the show starts. Probably not helpful, but on the small chance you're just impatient, give it a minute.
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I sometimes have an issue like that, but only for 10-20 seconds when the show starts. Probably not helpful, but on the small chance you're just impatient, give it a minute.
Thanks, but unfortunately, it's throughout the entire program.
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Lol. I was mostly just mentioning that because at some point there rejiggered their packages when they were losing out on Viacom channels but I am still on a plan which has them.
That, but I'm also a The Challenge junkie. Cannot get enough of that show!
The Challenge is the reason my wife and I haven't left our grandfathered in ATTNow (DirecTVNow) plan. Viacom channels are needed for us.
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Thanks, but unfortunately, it's throughout the entire program.
I first used YTTV on a TV with a plugin Roku. Was having issues with live and recorded programs from time to time. Upsetting.
I switched to a new TCL Roku TV (2019 series 6)... works great. Also have another TV where I switched from an old plugin Roku to a Fire Stick... works 1,000 times better, rarely any issues.
Might be worth a try of a plugin stick on your TCL Roku TV
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The Fire Stick 4K runs faster than the native app on the Roku TV for me, even with the TV using an ethernet connection.
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The Challenge is the reason my wife and I haven't left our grandfathered in ATTNow (DirecTVNow) plan. Viacom channels are needed for us.
I use Philo for the Viacom channels on top of YTTV. Not ideal.
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The Challenge is the reason my wife and I haven't left our grandfathered in ATTNow (DirecTVNow) plan. Viacom channels are needed for us.
All comes down to choice. YTTV is a good option for many, but one option only...no variability. One size fits all.
Others have more choices. Consumers have options for sure.
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I use Philo for the Viacom channels on top of YTTV. Not ideal.
I've thought this exact scenario but I'm still getting $15 off per month because of my mobile plan. If the price gets much higher than it is now I'll probably switch. How is the Philo stream quality??
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I've thought this exact scenario but I'm still getting $15 off per month because of my mobile plan. If the price gets much higher than it is now I'll probably switch. How is the Philo stream quality??
Same as YTTV, has some moments, but crystal clear 95% of the time. I hooked up my parents with the same setup so they could ditch BIG SATELLITE after being customers since '94, and they watch Philo about 80% of the time.
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There was a very good tv insider article (costs about $500 a year for service) that floated around the office yesterday. The main point was the power programmers (Disney, WM, NBC Universal, Viacom/CBS, Discovery, etc) are pushing very hard and successful of fattening the skinny bundle. Vue out of business, AT&T raising prices to be profitable, YTTTV losing money on every subscription they sell, Sling TV breaking even and no choice but to raise prices, etc.
The point of their article was a la carte isn’t coming and won’t as long as they control the economics. If there comes a time when they don’t, then they will simply eliminate many channels and offerings which D?C doesn’t want either. In essence, you want all this choice and variety of content, their is a bill to pay and a higher one coming at that.
On the illegal streaming side, an analyst asked at the HBO Max kickoff how daunting it is to launch a product to a customer base that doesn’t like or feel the need to pay for anything....roughly the writer’s words. Will all come to a tipping point when growth slows...to squeeze out more revenue or subs, they (the industry) will have to clamp down hard. The technology exists today, it is the policy and will that prevents it being used far flung at the moment.
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Hulu raised their price by $10/month.
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There was a very good tv insider article (costs about $500 a year for service) that floated around the office yesterday. The main point was the power programmers (Disney, WM, NBC Universal, Viacom/CBS, Discovery, etc) are pushing very hard and successful of fattening the skinny bundle. Vue out of business, AT&T raising prices to be profitable, YTTTV losing money on every subscription they sell, Sling TV breaking even and no choice but to raise prices, etc.
The point of their article was a la carte isn’t coming and won’t as long as they control the economics. If there comes a time when they don’t, then they will simply eliminate many channels and offerings which D?C doesn’t want either. In essence, you want all this choice and variety of content, their is a bill to pay and a higher one coming at that.
On the illegal streaming side, an analyst asked at the HBO Max kickoff how daunting it is to launch a product to a customer base that doesn’t like or feel the need to pay for anything....roughly the writer’s words. Will all come to a tipping point when growth slows...to squeeze out more revenue or subs, they (the industry) will have to clamp down hard. The technology exists today, it is the policy and will that prevents it being used far flung at the moment.
There was a very good Iranian newspaper article (costs 500 bhakalas a year) that was floated around the camp yesterday. The point was that Israelis are pretty awesome people. Did you see that one?
Neither did anyone else. Consider your source. WTF do you think a tv “insider” is going to say about the impending implosion and remodeling of their business. “Oh gee, Rick... a bunch of us are going to lose our jobs and that’s totally great because the consumer is finally going to get what they want and not the garbage we’ve been cramming down their throats for the past five decades.”
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I tend to believe CBB/that article is right. Billions at stake and the content producers have legal ways of forcing the consumer to pay more.
All the OTT streaming consumers are all boiled frogs .. the prices started low, and now are equivalent to their previous cable bill. SURPRISE, m-fers.
All the OTT innovators are being squeezed back to the mainstream - lots of packaged/unwanted channels plus high prices.
Those who went to OTA antennas only are the only ones who are saving money -- but the rising cost of internet will get those guys too. Yay.
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I've stuck with Spectrum for cable and internet and haven't really regretted it. Very reliable service with a great selection of programming. I don't worry about the cost because of that.
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I've stuck with Spectrum for cable and internet and haven't really regretted it. Very reliable service with a great selection of programming. I don't worry about the cost because of that.
If the price gap between their TV and my streaming service continues to narrow, I'll have to think about switching back. Problem is they got rid of the whole house DVR for new customers, and I think that would be a dealbreaker for us.
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Regardless of the content side, ISP/telcos continue to scam the nation
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If the price gap between their TV and my streaming service continues to narrow, I'll have to think about switching back. Problem is they got rid of the whole house DVR for new customers, and I think that would be a dealbreaker for us.
I thought we would miss the whole house DVR, but with just two of us at the house now, it's pretty easy to not let that be a problem.
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Who is the biggest competition to someone like, say redtube? Just trying to understand business models and such. Thanks for any insights.
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Who is the biggest competition to someone like, say redtube? Just trying to understand business models and such. Thanks for any insights.
Pornhub is probably your best option. The have one-eyed vietnamese midget lesbian vids, right up your alley.
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When I think about how you two have been making the same corny jokes on scoops for over a decade I get sad.
Then I think about how I've been reading the same corny jokes on scoop for over a decade and I get even sadder.
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When I think about how you two have been making the same corny jokes on scoops for over a decade I get sad.
Then I think about how I've been reading the same corny jokes on scoop for over a decade and I get even sadder.
Well, my job here is done.
Also, Arby's will clear up your sadness. Ok, not so much, but you'll be sad about something different, and that's a win.
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There was a very good Iranian newspaper article (costs 500 bhakalas a year) that was floated around the camp yesterday. The point was that Israelis are pretty awesome people. Did you see that one?
Neither did anyone else. Consider your source. WTF do you think a tv “insider” is going to say about the impending implosion and remodeling of their business. “Oh gee, Rick... a bunch of us are going to lose our jobs and that’s totally great because the consumer is finally going to get what they want and not the garbage we’ve been cramming down their throats for the past five decades.”
Ok. I guess you could go there. I would offer up many 3rd party analysts saying the same thing.
I happen to be mostly on the OTT side of the business now, so I see both sides and live it every day.
The power is consolidated in the hands of the content owners, they have pricing power and they will use it. They also have bundling power...want their ESPN, well they will eventually require you buy their Disney Kids, etc....that comes next with their OTT push, especially as they lose subs on traditional platforms. They have to make up the revenue somewhere, they are goi to replicate it in their own ecosystem.
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Pornhub is probably your best option. The have one-eyed vietnamese midget lesbian vids, right up your alley.
Cannot say midget anymore....Canadian junior hockey just changed the term.
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Cannot say midget anymore....Canadian junior hockey just changed the term.
Ts & Ps
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Ts & Ps
https://youtu.be/nnvAwx3AyKA
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Who is the biggest competition to someone like, say redtube? Just trying to understand business models and such. Thanks for any insights.
I believe if the four porn sites are aggregated together, only Google and youtube are ahead of them.
https://www.similarweb.com/top-websites/united-states
1 google.com
2 youtube.com
3 facebook.com
4 amazon.com
5 yahoo.com
6 twitter.com
7 pornhub.com
8 instagram.com
9 wikipedia.org
10 xvideos.com
11 reddit.com
12 ebay.com
13 xnxx.com
14 craigslist.org
15 zillow.com
16 live.com
17 netflix.com
18 office.com
19 bing.com
20 espn.com
21 linkedin.com
22 pinterest.com
23 walmart.com
24 indeed.com
25 cnn.com
27 xhamster.com
28 msn.com
29 chase.com
30 foxnews.com
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I believe if the four porn sites are aggregated together, only Google and youtube are ahead of them.
https://www.similarweb.com/top-websites/united-states
1 google.com
2 youtube.com
3 facebook.com
4 amazon.com
5 yahoo.com
6 twitter.com
7 pornhub.com
8 instagram.com
9 wikipedia.org
10 xvideos.com
11 reddit.com
12 ebay.com
13 xnxx.com
14 craigslist.org
15 zillow.com
16 live.com
17 netflix.com
18 office.com
19 bing.com
20 espn.com
21 linkedin.com
22 pinterest.com
23 walmart.com
24 indeed.com
25 cnn.com
27 xhamster.com
28 msn.com
29 chase.com
30 foxnews.com
Never cared for pornhub’s interface.
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So I was interested in getting the new Disney offering and after reading everyone's reviews about the Mandalorian, even more so. Just did not want to add more to the monthly entertainment bill though so decided to wait. My wife gets an email from Verizon where they are giving us Disney for a year as a freebie! WOO! Winner Winner!
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I know a few have the TCL Roku TV... The YTTV app on the TV has been buggy, and slow to load for me. Was thinking about running a Fire Cube or Roku Ultra on one of the HDMI ports instead.
Has anyone done this, and is there a universal remote that has worked? I don't want to have to juggle three remotes if I can avoid it.
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I know a few have the TCL Roku TV... The YTTV app on the TV has been buggy, and slow to load for me. Was thinking about running a Fire Cube or Roku Ultra on one of the HDMI ports instead.
Has anyone done this, and is there a universal remote that has worked? I don't want to have to juggle three remotes if I can avoid it.
I use the Harmony Hub with Remote on all 3 of my TV's. Simple to build profiles and easy to use.
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-915-000194-Harmony-Control-Smartphone/dp/B00ZYIFXSM/ref=pd_sbs_23_t_1/147-8959559-3647862?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00ZYIFXSM&pd_rd_r=3cff0935-7555-4d12-bc56-8a7005c2202c&pd_rd_w=RuDG6&pd_rd_wg=Kfr6U&pf_rd_p=5cfcfe89-300f-47d2-b1ad-a4e27203a02a&pf_rd_r=825HVSTGKG77QV0MD09M&psc=1&refRID=825HVSTGKG77QV0MD09M (https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-915-000194-Harmony-Control-Smartphone/dp/B00ZYIFXSM/ref=pd_sbs_23_t_1/147-8959559-3647862?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00ZYIFXSM&pd_rd_r=3cff0935-7555-4d12-bc56-8a7005c2202c&pd_rd_w=RuDG6&pd_rd_wg=Kfr6U&pf_rd_p=5cfcfe89-300f-47d2-b1ad-a4e27203a02a&pf_rd_r=825HVSTGKG77QV0MD09M&psc=1&refRID=825HVSTGKG77QV0MD09M)
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Does anyone here use Spectrum for tv services. Thoughts? Thanks. I may have an account that might have to use it.
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Does anyone here use Spectrum for tv services. Thoughts? Thanks. I may have an account that might have to use it.
I just unbundled from Spectrum. Their services were reliable, just freakin' expensive.
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I just unbundled from Spectrum. Their services were reliable, just freakin' expensive.
Thanks. I have an account, unique situation, where it is one of two options. I was taken aback at their intro pricing. Stunned vs others. That is the hold up. $70 for their basic select package for first 12 months after fees etc...which doesn't include several channels already ready receiving. I was hoping I was missing something. Their silver package is $85 before the fees but closer to the channel offerings. This is even higher than long term pricing with some competitors.
I am trying to convert a disabled person and a few elderly people to YouTube tv.
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I am trying to convert a disabled person and a few elderly people to YouTube tv.
My mom is not elderly, nor disabled, but let's say... "technologically challenged." She has easily figured out our setup with YTTV on the Roku and Fire TV.
As long as there is one remote and it can function like a what they are used to, they'll be able to pick things up pretty quickly.
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My mom is not elderly, nor disabled, but let's say... "technologically challenged." She has easily figured out our setup with YTTV on the Roku and Fire TV.
As long as there is one remote and it can function like a what they are used to, they'll be able to pick things up pretty quickly.
Thanks. A little different with 80 year olds 90 year olds and disabled but hoping they can transition with a little help.
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In case anyone is shopping around.....I was told by someone who would know that Dish Network will not reach a deal with Sinclair until the current deal runs out. Sinclair purchased the Fox Sports Regionals (22 I believe) from Disney summer of this year. That means the earliest a deal would likely be made is 2021. So if you were considering Dish or have it, and live in a market that has a lot of Fox Sports Regional content that you watch, not good news there. I had to make the switch away from Dish earlier this year. The previous expectation was a much quicker deal this year.
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My $100/month discounts with AT&T expire tomorrow. After chatting with AT&T today was told I am SOL and they are not offering any discounts currently. I'm checking streaming but since I also have to change my ISP I will likely bundle with Spectrum for 12 months.
I have been with DirecTV since 2000 but that no longer means anything to AT&T.
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My $100/month discounts with AT&T expire tomorrow. After chatting with AT&T today was told I am SOL and they are not offering any discounts currently. I'm checking streaming but since I also have to change my ISP I will likely bundle with Spectrum for 12 months.
I have been with DirecTV since 2000 but that no longer means anything to AT&T.
It’s all about profitability...costs have gone up so much with programmers that if they over discount, they lose money. They know for every customer how many credits they can give, and when the limit is reached it is reached. They have announced that to Wall Street, they are no longer chasing subs for the sake of subs...be it acquisition or retention. I remember in the old days when it was a 45% margin business, there are some video packages now that are negative margins...they have announced they are shutting those options down.
Shoot hoops...you are correct about Sinclair. The RSN world going to be VERY interesting in a few years when all these deals come back around. The streamers aren’t super excited about carrying them and the costs are outrageous...the tipping point for RSNs might finally be here. Sports rights for more national plays will continue to balloon, but the local RSN is finally having to deal with many customers that do not watch and don’t want to pay for it. The impact this could have on MLB, in particular, is huge. Also to NHL and NBA, but to a lesser extent....MLB is the one that has the most to lose in the RSN world.
YouTubeTV, Hulu, etc, all are losing money and don’t care about profitability at the moment...they are just taking market share, then they will raise prices, etc.
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It’s all about profitability...costs have gone up so much with programmers that if they over discount, they lose money.
Help me with the terminology .. who are the programmers? The distributors? I would have though programmers = content owners/creators.
I understand content owners are demanding more money. Are their costs going up, or are they just .. demanding more to replace declines elsewhere?
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Help me with the terminology .. who are the programmers? The distributors? I would have though programmers = content owners/creators.
I understand content owners are demanding more money. Are their costs going up, or are they just .. demanding more to replace declines elsewhere?
Programmers = Disney, Discovery, Warner, Viacom, Universal, Fox, AMC, etc, etc.
Costs going up. Next week, when the calendar magically hits 2020, every single one of them will get anywhere from 4% to 7% increase because it is a new year. Some will get a bit more. They have 90% of the power. As a result, everyone’s bill will go up in the next few months except at those services that are willing to lose money...the streamers...for which they will do this for a couple more years and then play huge catchup to cover their costs to essentially pay themselves (Disney owns HULU, At&T owns HBO and soon to launch HBO Max, etc).
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Well, my DirecTV/ATT bill went up again.
So, that was the last straw. Decided on YTTV. Called DirecTV to cancel my service.
Instead, they lowered my next 12 months of costs from 129.99 to 31.99 for TV. Without putting me under contract.
Oh well, guess I'll go through this all again in 2021.
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Well, my DirecTV/ATT bill went up again.
So, that was the last straw. Decided on YTTV. Called DirecTV to cancel my service.
Instead, they lowered my next 12 months of costs from 129.99 to 31.99 for TV. Without putting me under contract.
Oh well, guess I'll go through this all again in 2021.
I’m surprised...they have been making many decisions not to do that because in that sceanario at that price, they are losing money on you. Their costs for programming alone would be north of $85 on a $130 bill and that’s not factoring in other costs.
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We've been with D* since 2000 and my "annual discounts" expired in December. They would not offer me any reduction initially so I checked options and tried 1 more call after we were back at full retail. That's when they offered $50/month off, not the $65 we had last year but just enough to keep us.
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We're planning to cancel UVerse next week. I started our 14-day free trial of YTTV on Saturday and so far have been pretty impressed. I miss the convenience of numbered channels that I can just navigate to by pressing numbers, but that's absolutely not a deal breaker for the amount we'll be saving. If anyone has YTTV and has any tips on how to better navigate from channel to channel, that would be great. I do like that when you hit the down button (on Roku...not sure if they are all the same, but I suspect they are) you see the last several channels you've been to.
My wife laughed when we turned it on last night and the "Suggested for You" (or whatever it is called) had three college basketball games and the Cavaliers game. It didn't take long for them to figure out what I like to watch.
Maybe UVerse will offer us a deal when I call to cancel, but I'm not expecting it. I just have to decide if we're going to keep our internet with ATT or whether we'll be switching that to COX.
Also, the family sharing thing is absolutely fantastic for my kids at college.
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We're planning to cancel UVerse next week. I started our 14-day free trial of YTTV on Saturday and so far have been pretty impressed. I miss the convenience of numbered channels that I can just navigate to by pressing numbers, but that's absolutely not a deal breaker for the amount we'll be saving. If anyone has YTTV and has any tips on how to better navigate from channel to channel, that would be great. I do like that when you hit the down button (on Roku...not sure if they are all the same, but I suspect they are) you see the last several channels you've been to.
My wife laughed when we turned it on last night and the "Suggested for You" (or whatever it is called) had three college basketball games and the Cavaliers game. It didn't take long for them to figure out what I like to watch.
Maybe UVerse will offer us a deal when I call to cancel, but I'm not expecting it. I just have to decide if we're going to keep our internet with ATT or whether we'll be switching that to COX.
Also, the family sharing thing is absolutely fantastic for my kids at college.
By the Cavaliers, I assume you're talking about the middle-school girls basketball team I coach, because I'm sure you can't prefer watching what's left of the Cleveland Cavaliers!
Seriously, I'll enjoy hearing about your YTTV experience after you've used it for several months. We'll probably be shopping for a new provider at some point in 2020.
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I miss the convenience of numbered channels that I can just navigate to by pressing numbers, but that's absolutely not a deal breaker for the amount we'll be saving. If anyone has YTTV and has any tips on how to better navigate from channel to channel, that would be great. I do like that when you hit the down button (on Roku...not sure if they are all the same, but I suspect they are) you see the last several channels you've been to.
No tips, but I'll say that it doesn't bother me anymore. Between the home screen's personalized suggestions and the recent channels down below, I rarely need anything else. If I'm scrolling the guide just to see what's on, I like that they're all clumped by type of channel. Overall, love YTTV.
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No tips, but I'll say that it doesn't bother me anymore. Between the home screen's personalized suggestions and the recent channels down below, I rarely need anything else. If I'm scrolling the guide just to see what's on, I like that they're all clumped by type of channel. Overall, love YTTV.
I agree with this analysis
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By the Cavaliers, I assume you're talking about the middle-school girls basketball team I coach, because I'm sure you can't prefer watching what's left of the Cleveland Cavaliers!
Sadly, no. But I rarely watch other than to check the score (or on commercials). It apparently didn't take YTTV very long to figure out I watch a lot of basketball, at all levels.
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No tips, but I'll say that it doesn't bother me anymore. Between the home screen's personalized suggestions and the recent channels down below, I rarely need anything else. If I'm scrolling the guide just to see what's on, I like that they're all clumped by type of channel. Overall, love YTTV.
I agree with this analysis
Thanks, guys. I really don't think it will bother me much.
One of the first things I did was change the order of channels in the live guide. I grouped them in a way that made sense to me, and also made them roughly correspond with the order of the channels as they were on UVerse, so everything is pretty much where I would expect it to be based upon 15 years with that lineup. I moved the sports channels nearer to top than they were in Uverse (because, obviously, I watch them a lot) and moved the news channels nearer the bottom. And I moved all the channels I will probably never watch to the bottom. I liked being able to customize that.
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I had DirectTv and MLB Extra Innings, for over a decade. We recently switched to Hulu Live. I'll sign up for MLB TV, which should be the equivalent of Extra Innings.
However, I have no idea how to watch Herr Ricketts' new Cubs channel. Any ideas?
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We're planning to cancel UVerse next week. I started our 14-day free trial of YTTV on Saturday and so far have been pretty impressed. I miss the convenience of numbered channels that I can just navigate to by pressing numbers, but that's absolutely not a deal breaker for the amount we'll be saving. If anyone has YTTV and has any tips on how to better navigate from channel to channel, that would be great. I do like that when you hit the down button (on Roku...not sure if they are all the same, but I suspect they are) you see the last several channels you've been to.
My wife laughed when we turned it on last night and the "Suggested for You" (or whatever it is called) had three college basketball games and the Cavaliers game. It didn't take long for them to figure out what I like to watch.
Maybe UVerse will offer us a deal when I call to cancel, but I'm not expecting it. I just have to decide if we're going to keep our internet with ATT or whether we'll be switching that to COX.
Also, the family sharing thing is absolutely fantastic for my kids at college.
My tip: If you do not see the program or channel you want in the "Home" page/screen, go to "Live" find it, click on it.....then go back to Home Screen/Page and it will be there. I prefer to change channels quickly in home screen page picks for you. This allows me to do just that if I do not see what I want right away.
I have had some connection glitch issues at times using Roku.....spinning circle, black screen.(not a connection or speed problem) I have had to go out and back in a few times to re-start. It is some glitch between Roku and YTTV. They have credited the account multiple times because of it. Otherwise it has been fine.
I have a few other people on my account that are elderly/disabled and the elderly ones are having more of the learning curve from numbers/satellite to the new system.
Very pleased overall thus far.
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F'ing ATT/UVerse. Just when I had gotten very prepared to cut the cord and go all in with YTTV -- and was actually looking forward to it -- they caved. I called to find out what it would cost to cancel UVerse and our land line and just keep internet. Our current bill has been $199 (are you f'ing kidding me?!) (approximately $173 before taxes and fees). They quoted me a new price for TV and Internet at $92 (plus taxes and fees). It's not apples to apples, because it doesn't include the land line. But we'll be cancelling the land line anyway if we go to YTTV.
So, now my decision point is $92 for Uverse/Internet (no data cap) versus $99 for YTTV/Internet (1TB cap). Damn it. I think I'm probably going to have to stay with UVerse. I gotta admit I was really liking the unlimited DVR and the ability to access it on all devices.
Anyone have any insight on the 1TB cap? Is that enough? Most of what I read says it isn't an issue at all.
Edited to add: As ridiculous as it sounds, one of the biggest things making me want to stay with ATT is my wife's email account (an sbcglobal.net account). I think she would lose that if we change. Does anyone know about this? She has so many things tied to that email address that it will be a huge hassle to change it.
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F'ing ATT/UVerse. Just when I had gotten very prepared to cut the cord and go all in with YTTV -- and was actually looking forward to it -- they caved. I called to find out what it would cost to cancel UVerse and our land line and just keep internet. Our current bill has been $199 (are you f'ing kidding me?!) (approximately $173 before taxes and fees). They quoted me a new price for TV and Internet at $92 (plus taxes and fees). It's not apples to apples, because it doesn't include the land line. But we'll be cancelling the land line anyway if we go to YTTV.
So, now my decision point is $92 for Uverse/Internet (no data cap) versus $99 for YTTV/Internet (1TB cap). Damn it. I think I'm probably going to have to stay with UVerse. I gotta admit I was really liking the unlimited DVR and the ability to access it on all devices.
Anyone have any insight on the 1TB cap? Is that enough? Most of what I read says it isn't an issue at all.
No insight on the data cap, but I made a similar switch just last week and AT&T wasn't nearly as generous with their offer, perhaps because I was dumping DirecTV, and not UVerse.
The last-ditch offer to keep me (after 20+ years of DirecTV) would have knocked about $75 off my monthly bill, but only for one year. And that still wasn't as much as I'm saving by switching to YTTV. The switch was official Monday, and so far, so good. The user interface for YTTV is less convenient, but every time I get annoyed by it, I remind myself of how much I'm saving and how I never have to deal with lost service during a storm or after a major snowfall.
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No insight on the data cap, but I made a similar switch just last week and AT&T wasn't nearly as generous with their offer, perhaps because I was dumping DirecTV, and not UVerse.
The last-ditch offer to keep me (after 20+ years of DirecTV) would have knocked about $75 off my monthly bill, but only for one year. And that still wasn't as much as I'm saving by switching to YTTV. The switch was official Monday, and so far, so good. The user interface for YTTV is less convenient, but every time I get annoyed by it, I remind myself of how much I'm saving and how I never have to deal with lost service during a storm or after a major snowfall.
The offer they made me is also only for a year.
The more I think about it, the more I think I still might drop UVerse. One factor that I forgot to mention before is that we added a TV that currently is not hooked up to UVerse. We watch Netflix on it, but of course it gets YTTV. If we continue with UVerse, I'll add it which will cost another $10/mo (plus a one-time $49). That makes it pretty much a wash from a price perspective.
I'd been planning on switching the internet to Cox, but the ATT is a little cheaper and we'd be able to keep the sbcglobal email address if we stick with ATT. Although I think the Cox is quite a bit faster. Decisions...decisions.
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How is Uverse TV service? I've only had TWC/Spectrum before.
I saw some pricing that would take me below what we pay for YouTube TV/Spectrum internet. I generally like YTTV, but the fact that they can't get the video stuttering fixed on Fire devices is really irritating.
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How is Uverse TV service? I've only had TWC/Spectrum before.
I saw some pricing that would take me below what we pay for YouTube TV/Spectrum internet. I generally like YTTV, but the fact that they can't get the video stuttering fixed on Fire devices is really irritating.
Over the years it's been pretty good. We had a period of time a year or so ago when it would cut out from time to time, but they fixed it.
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The cancellation queue is the only place to get price breaks. The regular reps have no authority whatsoever.
And breaking the cable/internet email tie sucks. Sbcglobal is a classic, how old is that email?
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Edited to add: As ridiculous as it sounds, one of the biggest things making me want to stay with ATT is my wife's email account (an sbcglobal.net account). I think she would lose that if we change. Does anyone know about this? She has so many things tied to that email address that it will be a huge hassle to change it.
Similar to your wife's email account, we ended up keeping our landline because so many things are tied to that number. We ended up going with Magic Jack. It was about $25 for the jack and another $20 to port the number, by now it runs < $4/month.
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No insight on the data cap, but I made a similar switch just last week and AT&T wasn't nearly as generous with their offer, perhaps because I was dumping DirecTV, and not UVerse.
The last-ditch offer to keep me (after 20+ years of DirecTV) would have knocked about $75 off my monthly bill, but only for one year. And that still wasn't as much as I'm saving by switching to YTTV. The switch was official Monday, and so far, so good. The user interface for YTTV is less convenient, but every time I get annoyed by it, I remind myself of how much I'm saving and how I never have to deal with lost service during a storm or after a major snowfall.
Your dish wasn’t setup correctly or moved then. Should have next to no issues if it is lined up properly.
Don’t worry, you will have outages with YTTV....no one is immune regardless of service.
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How is Uverse TV service? I've only had TWC/Spectrum before.
I saw some pricing that would take me below what we pay for YouTube TV/Spectrum internet. I generally like YTTV, but the fact that they can't get the video stuttering fixed on Fire devices is really irritating.
It will stop being sold very shortly, they are all in on AT&T TV which is the best of live linear and video apps in one service. I’ve been a beta tester for over 12 months, very nice quality, fast and I can go into Netflix without switching devices....all in one device.
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Your dish wasn’t setup correctly or moved then. Should have next to no issues if it is lined up properly.
Maybe. In that case, DirecTV needs to affiliate with better technicians.
But I'm not sure the location had anything to do with it when snow freezes atop the dish and it takes days to melt away, as has occurred on a few occasions. My home is surrounded by a lot of tall trees, so keeping the dish in a location where I could brush away the snow without hauling out 20-foot ladder never was an option.
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Sbcglobal is a classic, how old is that email?
I honestly don't remember. I think UVerse was pretty new when we got it, and it's apparently been around since 2006.
It will stop being sold very shortly...
I guess that's good to know.
No insight on the data cap...
I was able to check my current usage and saw that we average about 285 Gigs a month, with spikes as high as 400G when all the kids were home. That concerns me a little bit because our usage certainly will go up if we switch to a purely streaming service. However, on those spike months our kids were watching an awful lot of Netflix and Hulu.
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I'd been planning on switching the internet to Cox, but the ATT is a little cheaper and we'd be able to keep the sbcglobal email address if we stick with ATT.
We had ATT what seems like decades ago and I had an sbcglobal.net email address up until about a year ago when I logged in and closed it out. So I would say if you cancel you will get to keep the sbcglobal email. I had it for probably 15 years without having ATT.
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We had ATT what seems like decades ago and I had an sbcglobal.net email address up until about a year ago when I logged in and closed it out. So I would say if you cancel you will get to keep the sbcglobal email. I had it for probably 15 years without having ATT.
Thank you. That's good to hear. I googled it and saw some conflicting information. Some say yes; others say no.
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Anyone have any insight on the 1TB cap? Is that enough? Most of what I read says it isn't an issue at all.
My AT&T 300/300 fiber has a 1TB cap. Family of 4, two boys watching Youtube, PSVue (now YTTV) .. I've had it for almost two years now .. at first I was very concerned about the cap and watched my usage somewhat daily.
After 6 months of never even hitting 500 gigs, I stopped watching. 1TB was fine for our family of 4.
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Thank you. That's good to hear. I googled it and saw some conflicting information. Some say yes; others say no.
Let's hope it has not changed since I cancelled....again, years and years ago.....
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My AT&T 300/300 fiber has a 1TB cap. Family of 4, two boys watching Youtube, PSVue (now YTTV) .. I've had it for almost two years now .. at first I was very concerned about the cap and watched my usage somewhat daily.
Any 4K content?
After 6 months of never even hitting 500 gigs, I stopped watching. 1TB was fine for our family of 4.
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Your dish wasn’t setup correctly or moved then. Should have next to no issues if it is lined up properly.
Don’t worry, you will have outages with YTTV....no one is immune regardless of service.
Really? My dish goes out whenever snow covers it. And frequently whenever there's a heavy rain. There is absolutely NOTHING above/around it.
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Just make sure you stop YTTV and not just turn the TV off. My parents got caught their first month and had to pay the data overage
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I had DirectTv and MLB Extra Innings, for over a decade. We recently switched to Hulu Live. I'll sign up for MLB TV, which should be the equivalent of Extra Innings.
However, I have no idea how to watch Herr Ricketts' new Cubs channel. Any ideas?
Mlb.tv seems so have very basic (ip based) location checking. I've easily used just my VPN to go "out of market" and watch games. Easily the best value package of all major sports!
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Mlb.tv seems so have very basic (ip based) location checking. I've easily used just my VPN to go "out of market" and watch games. Easily the best value package of all major sports!
I watched two MU games while in Barbardos earlier in January. Did a google search for how to do it and downloaded an app called Fake GPS and the rest of the setup was fairly easy. I have YTTV. Next time I am going to take my Chromecast device with me and watch them on the TV instead of my phone. That will be much nicer. :)
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4k content?
Admittedly, no. I have a year old 4k TV but just never stream that way. I watched the Superbowl in 4k for a while, then flipped back and forth to see if I noticed a difference. I really did not, so continued to watch it on PSVue which was all 720p.
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I had DirectTv and MLB Extra Innings, for over a decade. We recently switched to Hulu Live. I'll sign up for MLB TV, which should be the equivalent of Extra Innings.
However, I have no idea how to watch Herr Ricketts' new Cubs channel. Any ideas?
The agreement between Marquee and Hulu Live was announced today. Apparently, still nothing with YouTube TV.
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I just received an email from MLB.com... apparently, season ticket holders now get a complimentary subscription to MLB.tv.
Frankly, it’s not like they’re giving up much, since a season ticket holder isn’t otherwise likely to subscribe since they can’t watch their home team’s games... unless they’re one of the rare season ticket holders that live out-of-market.
The cost of my cord-cutting just dropped $120/yr.
Finally... living in Illinois pays off.
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I just received an email from MLB.com... apparently, season ticket holders now get a complimentary subscription to MLB.tv.
I believe you only need a 20-game pack.
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I just received an email from MLB.com... apparently, season ticket holders now get a complimentary subscription to MLB.tv.
Frankly, it’s not like they’re giving up much, since a season ticket holder isn’t otherwise likely to subscribe since they can’t watch their home team’s games... unless they’re one of the rare season ticket holders that live out-of-market.
The cost of my cord-cutting just dropped $120/yr.
Finally... living in Illinois pays off.
Humblebrag
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Pretty sure we're going to switch over. Still a little trepidation about the 1TB cap, but figure we can always switch back if it's not working out. When all was said and done, the price was pretty much the same, but we liked the fact that our kids who are away at college could get full access to YTTV.
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Humblebrag
Do you even know the meaning of this word you use?
In no universe should any derivative of the word “brag” be attached to any statement having the effect of “I live in Illinois.”
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Do you even know the meaning of this word you use?
In no universe should any derivative of the word “brag” be attached to any statement having the effect of “I live in Illinois.”
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/l0HlLTplhBcGO5t1m/giphy.gif)
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Pretty sure we're going to switch over. Still a little trepidation about the 1TB cap, but figure we can always switch back if it's not working out. When all was said and done, the price was pretty much the same, but we liked the fact that our kids who are away at college could get full access to YTTV.
Can always go back to DVD porn if you max out the 1TB, brah.
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Just got rid of Spectrum and the $180 bill. Had to keep the internet service $70 per month.
I went to YouTube TV. $49.99 per month.
Sports channels they have....
FS1
FS2
Fox Sports Wisconsin
Fox Sports Wisconsin Overflow
BTN
CBSSN
ESPN
ESPN2
ESPNU
ESPNEWS
ACC Network
SEC Network
MLB Network
NBA Network
NBCSN
Golf Network
Olympic Channel
Tennis Channel
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That's what I did as well, and it's great to keep all those sports channels and still save 60 bucks every month.
It's the best value out there, but they really need to get the video stutter issue fixed with Amazon devices.
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I have my 65 inch Samsung smart tv. The others we have Roku. So, I have my multiple tv's in the den. Picture looks outstanding.
I had Time Warner/Spectrum for 35 plus years. Enjoyed their service. Just couldn't do anything on that bill.
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Just got rid of Spectrum and the $180 bill. Had to keep the internet service $70 per month.
I went to YouTube TV. $49.99 per month.
Sports channels they have....
FS1
FS2
Fox Sports Wisconsin
Fox Sports Wisconsin Overflow
BTN
CBSSN
ESPN
ESPN2
ESPNU
ESPNEWS
ACC Network
SEC Network
MLB Network
NBA Network
NBCSN
Golf Network
Olympic Channel
Tennis Channel
Yep, the only sports channel I lost by switching to YTTV was Pac 12 Network. Wish they had it but the switch was worth the savings.
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Yep, the only sports channel I lost by switching to YTTV was Pac 12 Network. Wish they had it but the switch was worth the savings.
I lost NFL Network. That said, that network lacks live games.
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Well, I finally did it...sort of.
I called ATT this morning to cancel U-verse and the landline phone. They said internet-only service was $70/month with a 1TB cap, and I reminded them that they had quoted me $50/mo. He asked me what I was going to do for TV, and I told him YTTV. He casually mentioned that if I was streaming all our TV, the 1TB cap could be a problem. He then offered me a new deal: Keep U-verse Basic (only local channels) on one television and I could keep the unlimited internet that comes with a TV/Internet bundle. The price? $54/mo. Are you kidding me? What's the catch? For an extra $4/mo I get uncapped internet? No-brainer. Done.
Then he made a push to save the landline for $20/mo. Yesterday was the first time in at least five years anyone has used that phone (I used it to call recently-accepted MU applicants). No sale.
So, when all was said and done, our total outlay for TV/Internet went from $199 to $104/mo. Now I sit back and wait to see how ATT and/or YTTV try to screw us.
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$54 for locals and unlimited internet/AT&T? That's a great deal.
I currently have their 300/300 fiber .. $52/month after taxes.
That being said .. these plans are all 12 month promos, so be prepared to dance in 11 months.
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$54 for locals and unlimited internet/AT&T? That's a great deal.
I currently have their 300/300 fiber .. $52/month after taxes.
That being said .. these plans are all 12 month promos, so be prepared to dance in 11 months.
As I said, I expect one or both to try to screw me. I specifically asked how long the price was good for, and he commented that it is not a promotional rate, but their regular rate for that base package. I understand that is an ambiguous answer and they could change it at any time. We'll just see how it goes.
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I lost NFL Network. That said, that network lacks live games.
You know what, I lost NFL Network as well now that I think of it. I suppose that shows how little I watched it. I only watched it for live games, often Thursday nights. I don’t watch or listen to sports shows on tv or radio. I just watch live games. We watch a lot of the other sports channels of YTTV.
Pac 12 Network does a pretty good job of showing many live games in a wide variety of men’s and women’s sports. Plus with the time difference, there are often extra games to watch.
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Youtube TV announced today that it will no longer carry Sinclair channels effective Feb 29.
This includes all Fox Sports Regionals and The Yes Network.
This was by far the biggest reason we switched from Dish to Youtube TV on multiple accounts.Dish has not carried Sinclair channels for almost a year now. And, they are not likely to get them back.
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Youtube TV announced today that it will no longer carry Sinclair channels effective Feb 29.
This includes all Fox Sports Regionals and The Yes Network.
This was by far the biggest reason we switched from Dish to Youtube TV on multiple accounts.Dish has not carried Sinclair channels for almost a year now. And, they are not likely to get them back.
Welp. That's it for me.
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Youtube TV announced today that it will no longer carry Sinclair channels effective Feb 29.
This includes all Fox Sports Regionals and The Yes Network.
This was by far the biggest reason we switched from Dish to Youtube TV on multiple accounts.Dish has not carried Sinclair channels for almost a year now. And, they are not likely to get them back.
Great, no Marquee coming then. Not sure if this will break me or not.
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SH is on Fox
DePaul is FS1
St Johns is FSW.
I moved to YTTV exclusively for mubb.
Who will carry ST Johns game with no dish/Sling/YTTV?
Hulu is that it?
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No FSWisconsin? No YouTube tv!
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SH is on Fox
DePaul is FS1
St Johns is FSW.
I moved to YTTV exclusively for mubb.
Who will carry ST Johns game with no dish/Sling/YTTV?
Hulu is that it?
The only game you'll have to worry about is St John's because it's on FSW which is Sinclair owned. Fox and FS1 are both Fox owned (it's confusing no doubt). I suspect that YTTV will reverse this in the next couple of weeks or month. With basketball and baseball ramping up those regional networks will have a lot of content people will want and will move to where they can get it
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I am open to suggestions.
It was a big deal to move from Dish, multiple accounts, long time Dish subscriber to YTTV. It's one of the biggest reasons for the move. I have one account that cannot get DirecTV. Spectrum/cable just isn't competitive with pricing/channels.
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The only game you'll have to worry about is St John's because it's on FSW which is Sinclair owned. Fox and FS1 are both Fox owned (it's confusing no doubt). I suspect that YTTV will reverse this in the next couple of weeks or month. With basketball and baseball ramping up those regional networks will have a lot of content people will want and will move to where they can get it
I would hope so. YTTV does a lot of sports advertising at venues who's teams sports are carried by Sinclair.
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The only game you'll have to worry about is St John's because it's on FSW which is Sinclair owned. Fox and FS1 are both Fox owned (it's confusing no doubt). I suspect that YTTV will reverse this in the next couple of weeks or month. With basketball and baseball ramping up those regional networks will have a lot of content people will want and will move to where they can get it
I understand completely, maybe wasn’t clear.
My question was how do I watch the STJ game?
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I just switch to YTTV. What a kick in the nuts. Weird, enough my FOX Sports GO App still show FS Wisconsin programming. I hope it last. I can just cast it then.
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I understand completely, maybe wasn’t clear.
My question was how do I watch the STJ game?
Hulu free 7 day trial will get you the game. Try to talk them into a longer one. YTTV gave me a 30 day free trial. Otherwise try a sports bar, as many have DirecTV as their provider.
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YouTubeTv is losing 17 NBA teams, 15 MLB teams, and 11 NHL teams.
Considering they are THE sponsor the World Series and NBA Finals, I think it's a bluff. Why market to sports fans if you are going to eliminate nearly all regional sports?
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I just switch to YTTV. What a kick in the nuts. Weird, enough my FOX Sports GO App still show FS Wisconsin programming. I hope it last. I can just cast it then.
It's not Mar 1 yet...
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It's not Mar 1 yet...
Yep. Google and Dish are apples to oranges.
Dish is phasing out sports channels and wants to go mobile phone route moving forward.
But there was a time when Dish was bluffing, but never lost channels. Then over time, that became brief periods of going dark. Now, they haven't had HBO in years. Haven't had Fox Sports Regionals in a year and I am told 2021 is earliest if at all a deal will be reached.
YTTV with their aggressive sports sponsorships, $$$, etc...the hope is it will get worked out.
Otherwise I am looking at Hulu Live Free trial. YTTV had a 30 day free trial. At first glance Hulu live is $5 more, missing about half a dozen channels my people watch, does not have unlimited recording, and has more streaming restrictions conpared to YTTV.
We'll wait and see.
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YouTubeTv is losing 17 NBA teams, 15 MLB teams, and 11 NHL teams.
Considering they are THE sponsor the World Series and NBA Finals, I think it's a bluff. Why market to sports fans if you are going to eliminate nearly all regional sports?
I'd hope it is, but based on the Dish/Sling standoff I wouldn't be surprised if this goes on awhile.
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Hulu has been good for us for sports.
Sinclair isnt gonna have any outlets left to show their RSNs soon.
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Hulu has been good for us for sports.
Sinclair isnt gonna have any outlets left to show their RSNs soon.
Which is why I think a deal works out between YTTV and Sinclair. I think Sinclair knows this is one of the last "big deals" they can negotiate because the power is going back to the carriers, especially around sports because generational changes are seeing an erosion of eye balls on sports. I suspect that YTTV will bring it back within a month at worst as an additional tier.
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Copied from Reddit .. so it might be true:
So providers that no longer carry these Sinclair channels:
- Dish Network
- Youtube TV
- Sling
- FuboTV
Providers that still offer them:
- AT&T Now
- Hulu Live
- DirectTV
- Probably your local cable provider
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Hulu has been good for us for sports.
Problem with HULU is you only get 2 streams. Upcharge up $10 for more streams.
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Damn it. Guess I have to move to Hulu
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Copied from Reddit .. so it might be true:
So providers that no longer carry these Sinclair channels:
- Dish Network
- Youtube TV
- Sling
- FuboTV
Providers that still offer them:
- AT&T Now
- Hulu Live
- DirectTV
- Probably your local cable provider
AT&T and DirecTv are the same negotiation now, so down to three
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AT&T and DirecTv are the same negotiation now, so down to three
ATT Now is $80 a month (if you want Sports) and still missing some channels for me that YTTV carries.
Hulu Live is $55, missing some channela YTTV gets, but only two streams at a time and not unlimited recording.
YouTube TV will not have FS Regionals, $50 month.
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ATT Now is $80 a month (if you want Sports) and still missing some channels for me that YTTV carries.
Hulu Live is $55, missing some channela YTTV gets, but only two streams at a time and not unlimited recording.
YouTube TV will not have FS Regionals, $50 month.
I have 50 hours of sports DVR'd. Thats 20 NFL, MLB and EPL games.
How much storage do you need?
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I have 50 hours of sports DVR'd. Thats 20 NFL, MLB and EPL games.
How much storage do you need?
Well, I have several people, different locations. Viewing habits vary.
For example, for an elderly relative, I record all Law and Order reruns, Dateline, those types of things and shows, movies for her to watch whenever she wants. (There are tons)...This allows her to have those shows etc handy whenever she wants. Law and Order for example is only on We TV and Sundance TV. YTTV carries both channels. I know this may sound silly, but I look after a few elderly relatives and a disabled relative. And I try to make things as easy and convenient for them as possible. For someone else or myself I would record other sports or movies etc...space can add up.
It has been great watching some of them go from traditional satellite tv to stream ESPN app only games for example. They would not watch them on other devices, only a big tv. Now they can watch 50 to 60 of their favorite college team's baseball games for example on the ESPN app, something you or I could or would do frequently for many years on any device.
So, no, it isn't a big deal to record, delete etc...it's a priority far down on my list....I just like the idea that I don't have to pay attention to limits because I had to do that in the past with other providers.
Some of them have had a steep learning curve just switching from traditional tv, especially the elderly ones.
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I have 50 hours of sports DVR'd. Thats 20 NFL, MLB and EPL games.
How much storage do you need?
Do you know how many episodes of Paw Patrol are out there?
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Well, I have several people, different locations. Viewing habits vary.
For example, for an elderly relative, I record all Law and Order reruns, Dateline, those types of things and shows, movies for her to watch whenever she wants. (There are tons)...This allows her to have those shows etc handy whenever she wants. Law and Order for example is only on We TV and Sundance TV. YTTV carries both channels. I know this may sound silly, but I look after a few elderly relatives and a disabled relative. And I try to make things as easy and convenient for them as possible. For someone else or myself I would record other sports or movies etc...space can add up.
It has been great watching some of them go from traditional satellite tv to stream ESPN app only games for example. They would not watch them on other devices, only a big tv. Now they can watch 50 to 60 of their favorite college team's baseball games for example on the ESPN app, something you or I could or would do frequently for many years on any device.
So, no, it isn't a big deal to record, delete etc...it's a priority far down on my list....I just like the idea that I don't have to pay attention to limits because I had to do that in the past with other providers.
Some of them have had a steep learning curve just switching from traditional tv, especially the elderly ones.
Chico's will be by to tell you how illegal it is to share passwords/accounts in this manner
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Chico's will be by to tell you how illegal it is to share passwords/accounts in this manner
YTTV specifically encourages it.
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Chico's will be by to tell you how illegal it is to share passwords/accounts in this manner
Each YouTube TV membership allows family sharing up to six people at various locations. You may also watch on three devices in one household at a time.
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Do you know how many episodes of Paw Patrol are out there?
Surprisingly less than you would think. what, 4 seasons?
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Surprisingly less than you would think. what, 4 seasons?
182.
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182.
Are you counting the Mighty Pups as core Paw Patrol or as a spin-off?
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I have 50 hours of sports DVR'd. Thats 20 NFL, MLB and EPL games.
How much storage do you need?
Hard to say. The storage is for only one account. My wife DVR's everything.
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Are you counting the Mighty Pups as core Paw Patrol or as a spin-off?
It falls in the Paw Patrol DVR listing, so Mighty Pups are included.
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7 seaons of core paw patrol.
Who's y'alls favorite pup? Mine is Rubble.
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7 seaons of core paw patrol.
Who's y'alls favorite pup? Mine is Rubble.
Every answer that isn't Rubble is wrong.
Who's the worst pup? Rocky or Zuma?
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It falls in the Paw Patrol DVR listing, so Mighty Pups are included.
https://www.theonion.com/paw-patrol-writers-defend-episode-where-german-shephe-1828419524/amp
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Every answer that isn't Rubble is wrong.
Who's the worst pup? Rocky or Zuma?
Zuma, by far. Rocky is an important part of the green new deal indoctrination.
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Zuma, by far. Rocky is an important part of the green new deal indoctrination.
Wrong.
Clearly, Everest is the worst. Pretty soon, Tennessee will be oceanfront property, and she'll be obsolete.
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Wrong.
Clearly, Everest is the worst. Pretty soon, Tennessee will be oceanfront property, and she'll be obsolete.
Everest is a niche dog, not a full-timer.
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Wrong.
Clearly, Everest is the worst. Pretty soon, Tennessee will be oceanfront property, and she'll be obsolete.
My five year old daughter loves Skye and Everest. I have to pick a girl dog to like, so I go with Everest.
And Tracker can kiss my hairy dad ass. Imposter.
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Wrong.
Clearly, Everest is the worst. Pretty soon, Tennessee will be oceanfront property, and she'll be obsolete.
Zuma has a hovercraft, that is badass. Rocky is a whiner. Rubble is clearly best, Skye is underutilized, and Chase is solid.....all the rest are garbage characters.
Side note, how many different people have voiced Rider....like 13?
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Back to the cord... no longer cut for me. Spectrum got pricing that was only about $12/mo more than what I'd pay with Hulu. I can live with that.
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Back to the cord... no longer cut for me. Spectrum got pricing that was only about $12/mo more than what I'd pay with Hulu. I can live with that.
Spectrum with internet was until Sunday $185 per month for me.
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"Temporary Extension" has been reached for YouTube TV and Sinclair for Fox Sports Regionals.
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We have agreed to a temporary extension! FOX Regional Sports Networks and YES Network are still available on YouTube TV while we work to reach an agreement. We’ll be sure to share an update as soon as we have more info on a potential timeline. More to come!
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I hope they can get a permanent deal done. The HD quality on YTTV is better than the Spectrum box.
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I hope they can get a permanent deal done. The HD quality on YTTV is better than the Spectrum box.
I think they will. Funny, you said that about the picture. I've had YTTV for one week now. I feel the same about the picture. The only network that gave myself a problem was the ACC Network last Tuesday.
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I think they will. Funny, you said that about the picture. I've had YTTV for one week now. I feel the same about the picture. The only network that gave myself a problem was the ACC Network last Tuesday.
We're one week in on YTTV too, and we've been very happy with it. It's taken some getting used to on the navigation side, but really not a problem.
And we really like the unlimited "dvr". Our U-verse dvr wasn't that big, and it was a regular occurrence to have to cull things so that stuff wouldn't be auto-deleted as new stuff recorded. The only drawback is the inability to save something "permanently" but I really don't think that will be too much of a problem. In fact, maybe a little bit liberating since it's easier to tell my daughter, "no, we can't keep that six-year-old SNL with One Direction...watch it on YouTube."
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I like that you can make your own TV Network Menu.
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I just switched to YouTube TV too. As StillAWarrior mentioned, I am still getting used to the navigation, but it'll be fine in time. The picture quality is great.
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To me, the navigation is fun to play with.
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http://sbgi.net/pr-news/sinclair-broadcast-group-youtube-tv-renew-licenses-on-19-regional-sports-networks-ensuring-continued-access-for-millions-of-fans/
Also...YTTV will carry 13 MLB games exclusively, all after all star break.
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http://sbgi.net/pr-news/sinclair-broadcast-group-youtube-tv-renew-licenses-on-19-regional-sports-networks-ensuring-continued-access-for-millions-of-fans/
Also...YTTV will carry 13 MLB games exclusively, all after all star break.
Wow. Must have happen just now. Some where going away.
https://www.cordcuttersnews.com/youtube-tv-has-removed-sinclair-owned-fox-regional-sports-network/
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https://thestreamable.com/news/these-are-the-fox-sports-regional-sports-networks-dropped-by-youtube-tv
Only YES Network, Fox Sports Prime Ticket, and Fox Sports West will not be on YTTV.
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Wow. Must have happen just now. Some where going away.
https://www.cordcuttersnews.com/youtube-tv-has-removed-sinclair-owned-fox-regional-sports-network/
Prime Ticket and Fox Sports West are the two Fox Sports Regional channels that will not be carried bu YTTv moving forward....and YES Network.
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Just got ATT fiber. 1gb download speeds are fun.
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Just got an email from YTTV. Apparently my Fox regional network will not be affected.
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Just got ATT fiber. 1gb download speeds are fun.
They came to the house yesterday, I guess we just had it put in our neighborhood. Is their internet pretty reliable?
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Does anyone here ever watch Pac 12 Now app (plus/live) for live games?
I want to watch a game that is only available on that app. I can get it on phone, computer devices but I want to stream it on tv as well. I use Roku to stream, and I do not see it available there. Is it not available via Roku? thx.
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They came to the house yesterday, I guess we just had it put in our neighborhood. Is their internet pretty reliable?
Live in waukesha? And yeah I haven't had any problems
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Does anyone here ever watch Pac 12 Now app (plus/live) for live games?
I want to watch a game that is only available on that app. I can get it on phone, computer devices but I want to stream it on tv as well. I use Roku to stream, and I do not see it available there. Is it not available via Roku? thx.
That seems strange. Worst case scenario you can hdmi from computer to tv.
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Does anyone here ever watch Pac 12 Now app (plus/live) for live games?
I want to watch a game that is only available on that app. I can get it on phone, computer devices but I want to stream it on tv as well. I use Roku to stream, and I do not see it available there. Is it not available via Roku? thx.
Can you cast to the tv?
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That seems strange. Worst case scenario you can hdmi from computer to tv.
Yep. I am waiting to hear back. But the app isn’t there on Roku. I have a few technologically challenged people that will only watch games etc on tv size. I want to make it as easy as possible for them. .....it’s nice that no Pac 12 Network subscription is required. (I no longer have Pac 12 Network since switching from Dish to YYTV.) .....We watch a lot of games on tv via ESPN app etc...SEC Network plus or ACC Network Extra etc...or Fox Sports Go ....all via their apps on Roku.
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Just to follow up, Mike Yam from Pac 12 Network was kind enough to reply when few others would, and he told me that Pac 12 Now app is not available on Roku, only Google Chromecast, Apple TV etc...(he uses Apple TV)
I can do HDMI with device with tv or get a Google Chromecast for $35. (this is multiple locations though)
It is strange to me that Pac 12 Now is not available on Roku.
Thanks for the replies.
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Yep. I am waiting to hear back. But the app isn’t there on Roku. I have a few technologically challenged people that will only watch games etc on tv size. I want to make it as easy as possible for them. .....it’s nice that no Pac 12 Network subscription is required. (I no longer have Pac 12 Network since switching from Dish to YYTV.) .....We watch a lot of games on tv via ESPN app etc...SEC Network plus or ACC Network Extra etc...or Fox Sports Go ....all via their apps on Roku.
Those app won't work since you have YTTV.
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Just got an email from YTTV. Apparently my Fox regional network will not be affected.
You don't say. ;)
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Those app won't work since you have YTTV.
Huh? FS Go, ESPN app, etc all work fine with YTTV credentials. Just click "all providers", "more tv providers" (or something similar) and search for YouTube. Then login and voila!
For example: https://www.foxsportsgo.com/register?device_type=web&device_id=195cc660-5f59-11ea-9a31-91df9000c0b1&redirect_url=/
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Huh? FS Go, ESPN app, etc all work fine with YTTV credentials. Just click "all providers", "more tv providers" (or something similar) and search for YouTube. Then login and voila!
For example: https://www.foxsportsgo.com/register?device_type=web&device_id=195cc660-5f59-11ea-9a31-91df9000c0b1&redirect_url=/
Didn't work last week. I'll download to try again. Not the worst case, as the YTTV app works the same.
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Huh? FS Go, ESPN app, etc all work fine with YTTV credentials. Just click "all providers", "more tv providers" (or something similar) and search for YouTube. Then login and voila!
For example: https://www.foxsportsgo.com/register?device_type=web&device_id=195cc660-5f59-11ea-9a31-91df9000c0b1&redirect_url=/
Yep.
All I had to do on Roku screen is go to search and download each app that wasn't already there. We watch a ton of internet only games on the ESPN app on tv for example. I use my YTTV log in to get these apps just as I used to use my Dish provider log in before.
What I cannot figure out is why I can download Pac 12 Now app several places (phones, tablets etc...except on Roku with the tv. These are free, no subscription required live sports. But Roku does not carry Pac 12 Now app (also known as plus or live)
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Nope. Still nothing on the apps on my phone. Maybe Roku is different.
You should be able to download those apps on your phone, ESPN, Fox Sports Go etc....and use YTTV as your provider. If you do not see YTTV as a choice, you can add it in each app. Then log in. If you still have trouble, delete the apps and re-install. They should 100% work then.
I also watch all of these apps on my phone using YTTV as the provider log in.
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You should be able to download those apps on your phone, ESPN, Fox Sports Go etc....and use YTTV as your provider. If you do not see YTTV as a choice, you can add it in each app. Then log in. If you still have trouble, delete the apps and re-install. They should 100% work then.
I also watch all of these apps on my phone using YTTV as the provider log in.
I see what I was doing wrong on the ESPN app. I was clicking on the logo, which is just an add page. ESPN is big to have to get espn3 programs. Yet, the others are pointless, since I have the YouTube TV app. Which is sweet, by the way!
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I got ESPN to work on my Roku, phone and Samsung! I got Fox Sports to work on my Roku and Samsung. Trouble with Fox Sports Go. It keeps kicking me back to download the app, which I did.
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Apparently the YTTV deal w/Sinclair only includes FS Regionals in primary markets.
For example: If you live in say Des Moines Iowa, and you used to get FS North and/or FS Midwest, you no longer get those channels. It appears to be this way all over the country. From Florida panhandle to parts of Ohio etc....as it appears to penalize people not located in the larger primary market for the FS Regional channel. Some people in Indy used to get multiple FS Regionals, only get one now. Fox Sports South is no longer in Charleston, Arkansas etc...on and on...
It doesn't affect me but it's unfortunate for some others.
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Sounds like the deal was raw between YTTV and Sinclair. Better than nothing for YTTV. I'm glad we will have it in Wisconsin.
https://www.cordcuttersnews.com/youtube-tv-is-only-offering-rsns-in-select-areas/
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Good. With that hammered out I can make the move from DirecTV to YTTV
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Good. With that hammered out I can make the move from DirecTV to YTTV
Let me know what Direvtv has to say when you call to cancel (if you call rather than do it online).
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Buh bye, DirecTV
https://www.yahoo.com/news/directvs-days-numbered-133022651.html
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Buh bye, DirecTV
https://www.yahoo.com/news/directvs-days-numbered-133022651.html
Hope Cheeks has used his ban time wisely.
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Buh bye, DirecTV
https://www.yahoo.com/news/directvs-days-numbered-133022651.html
Not too shocking. DTV was great when cable was the only real competition. But now that services like YTTV and others provide everything most people want at a fraction of the price, I don't understand why anyone with decent internet service and speed would keep DTV. It makes sense in rural areas, but that's about it....
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fuboTV Adds NHL Network, MLB Network & MLB Strike Zone
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Not too shocking. DTV was great when cable was the only real competition. But now that services like YTTV and others provide everything most people want at a fraction of the price, I don't understand why anyone with decent internet service and speed would keep DTV. It makes sense in rural areas, but that's about it....
Agree completely. Unless you are a NFL ticket fan, but no other reason.
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Hmmm...this DTV news is interesting.
With YTTV, are you able to access regional sports networks? Ie: will I be able to access MU games on FSWisconsin if I live out of state, like I am with the Sportspack on DTV?
That has really been the only thing holding me back in recent years.
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Hmmm...this DTV news is interesting.
With YTTV, are you able to access regional sports networks? Ie: will I be able to access MU games on FSWisconsin if I live out of state, like I am with the Sportspack on DTV?
That has really been the only thing holding me back in recent years.
No. You'll probably get your local RSN, but there's no option (right now) to get out-of-market RSNs.
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Hmmm...this DTV news is interesting.
With YTTV, are you able to access regional sports networks? Ie: will I be able to access MU games on FSWisconsin if I live out of state, like I am with the Sportspack on DTV?
That has really been the only thing holding me back in recent years.
I had to read that article again. Does not say Direct TV is going away, they have something like 15 million customers. It says they are focusing on broadband tv except for rural areas. The headline and the article do not match.
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Hmmm...this DTV news is interesting.
With YTTV, are you able to access regional sports networks? Ie: will I be able to access MU games on FSWisconsin if I live out of state, like I am with the Sportspack on DTV?
That has really been the only thing holding me back in recent years.
With YouTube TV, you will get the local market FS Regional, and the local market FS Regional plus channel.
Sometimes when the MU game is a FS Wisconsin game, the MU game will be carried on an out of market FS Regional or plus channel. It depends if the MU game conflicts with higher priority local programming. If your market has local NHL, NBA, MLB, college hoops team on that channel etc ..it may not get put on that channel(s). My market has 3 of those 4 conflicts. It is more likely to he carried on weekend day games sometimes.
You then would want to check the Fox Sports Go App etc...to try to find the game and log in as YTTV customer.
I switched to YTTV and previously had both satellite companies, cable etc...my only regret was not doing it sooner. It does have its challenges at times but not too much from a programming standpoint.
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fuboTV Adds NHL Network, MLB Network & MLB Strike Zone
Unfortunately, fubo no longer offers the fox regional channels, so no fox WI anymore. I like all the soccer options on Fubo, but am looking to make a change. Want to be able to watch the Brewers games.
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Unfortunately, fubo no longer offers the fox regional channels, so no fox WI anymore. I like all the soccer options on Fubo, but am looking to make a change. Want to be able to watch the Brewers games.
YTTV is your best bet. You won't have beIN, but will have FS WI.
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Unfortunately, fubo no longer offers the fox regional channels, so no fox WI anymore. I like all the soccer options on Fubo, but am looking to make a change. Want to be able to watch the Brewers games.
YTTV is your best bet. You won't have beIN, but will have FS WI.
YTTV is very good.
As for an option on beIN if you're leaving Fubo I suggest Fanatiz. I use their app on the Amazon Fire stick and have access to beIN, beIN Espanol, and the extra beIN channels that carry French, Spanish, and Turkish league games. It also has the rights to the Argentinian, Ecudorean, and (I believe) Bolivian leagues. It's $99 for a year.
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No. You'll probably get your local RSN, but there's no option (right now) to get out-of-market RSNs.
Well that kills it for me then. Are there any "cord cutting" options that allow one to get regional sports networks? PS Vue did, and was going to switch to that after a trial, and then PS killed that as well.
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With YouTube TV, you will get the local market FS Regional, and the local market FS Regional plus channel.
Sometimes when the MU game is a FS Wisconsin game, the MU game will be carried on an out of market FS Regional or plus channel. It depends if the MU game conflicts with higher priority local programming. If your market has local NHL, NBA, MLB, college hoops team on that channel etc ..it may not get put on that channel(s). My market has 3 of those 4 conflicts. It is more likely to he carried on weekend day games sometimes.
You then would want to check the Fox Sports Go App etc...to try to find the game and log in as YTTV customer.
I switched to YTTV and previously had both satellite companies, cable etc...my only regret was not doing it sooner. It does have its challenges at times but not too much from a programming standpoint.
Yah, I live in MN and occasionally the FS Wisco games are on FSNorth, but I am just not willing to punt a handful of MU games. At least until I have to, or find an option that allows regional sports networks.
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With YouTube TV, you will get the local market FS Regional, and the local market FS Regional plus channel.
Sometimes when the MU game is a FS Wisconsin game, the MU game will be carried on an out of market FS Regional or plus channel. It depends if the MU game conflicts with higher priority local programming. If your market has local NHL, NBA, MLB, college hoops team on that channel etc ..it may not get put on that channel(s). My market has 3 of those 4 conflicts. It is more likely to he carried on weekend day games sometimes.
You then would want to check the Fox Sports Go App etc...to try to find the game and log in as YTTV customer.
I switched to YTTV and previously had both satellite companies, cable etc...my only regret was not doing it sooner. It does have its challenges at times but not too much from a programming standpoint.
Yep, hence why I put the local RSN's on the TV thread to know what games are in what market. The MU games are not a FS Wisconsin game like the Brewers/Bucks. Just a FOX Sports game on FSN.
I would not worry about Fox Sports Go in 2020-21 basketball season, right now. Those will be re-branded. Will Fox Sports programming like Big 12 football and extra Big East games fall on the Sinclair own stations. I would think that moves to FS2, with the new six year deal for the MWC for football and basketball with many games landing on FS2.
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Yep, hence why I put the local RSN's on the TV thread to know what games are in what market. The MU games are not a FS Wisconsin game like the Brewers/Bucks. Just a FOX Sports game on FSN.
I would not worry about Fox Sports Go in 2020-21 basketball season, right now. Those will be re-branded. Will Fox Sports programming like Big 12 football and extra Big East games fall on the Sinclair own stations. I would think that moves to FS2, with the new six year deal for the MWC for football and basketball with many games landing on FS2.
In some markets, the local FS Regional Channel and the local college sports team will make a deal to air some games, a few, a dozen, depends on the market. These are games not picked up nationally. MU has very few of these games compared to some other markets that have many more because their National TV deal is not as strong.
As mentioned, sometimes other markets will pick up the MU game on their local/regional FS channel or plus channel. For example, I watched MU v St. John's on an FS plus channel. It was either boxing or car racing was bumped for it for a late morning, lunch time Saturday game. That channel however is not going to bump the local college sports or pro teams for out of market MU if they conflict. As much as I prefer many more Saturday night games for MU instead of so many day games, those few MU games would not be carried on FS Regional/Plus in other markets on those days and times. Too many conflicts.
For me, MU plays very few of these games per year to be a factor.
Pac 12 Network, BeIn sports are two channels I miss with YTTV. NFL Network had occasional games but otherwise I didn't watch it.
We were however no longer getting FS Regionals with a different carrier. It was an easy switch, despite losing these few other channels. Most MU games are easy access which is good.
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Still, might be a moot point next year as this could all be moving to FS2. We might know more by the end of May as the first three weeks of the college football TV schedule comes out.
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I'm three weeks new to YTTV. It's been a great move to the house. Glad I able to still get ESPN, FOX Sports, NBC Sports Apps on Roku and my phone as it does not count as one of the three stream via YTTV.
Did YTTV at one point have the Pac 12 Networks?
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I'm three weeks new to YTTV. It's been a great move to the house. Glad I able to still get ESPN, FOX Sports, NBC Sports Apps on Roku and my phone as it does not count as one of the three stream via YTTV.
Did YTTV at one point have the Pac 12 Networks?
I don't believe so. What bothers me is that Roku does not carry the Pac 12 Now app. There are many free non subscriber games on that app. Roku does not have it. I do not know why. I had to watch a game on there recently on my phone instead.
I used to watch a lot of Pac 12 Network on Dish.
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What items are free on Pac 12 Now app? Can't be football and basketball.
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What items are free on Pac 12 Now app? Can't be football and basketball.
This past weekend for example, the USC Baseball Classic which included UCLA, Vanderbilt, TCU. All Pac 12 team games were on there. Some events are free on the app and some require subscription.
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This past weekend for example, the USC Baseball Classic which included UCLA, Vanderbilt, TCU. All Pac 12 team games were on there. Some events are free on the app and some require subscription.
Softball games I hope as well. I download it to give it a try. Thanks!
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Email from YouTube TV
We've been working with our friends at EPIX to provide you with an extended free preview of their channel.
From March 26 through April 25, you can enjoy original series like Pennyworth, Slow Burn, or Belgravia, which premieres April 12, and hundreds of movies, including twenty-one Bond movies to watch from April 1.
EPIX will be added and removed from your service with no action needed on your part. And, not to worry, we will not automatically bill you for EPIX after this time. You can add it back if you like it but that's totally up to you.
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Email from YouTube TV
We've been working with our friends at EPIX to provide you with an extended free preview of their channel.
From March 26 through April 25, you can enjoy original series like Pennyworth, Slow Burn, or Belgravia, which premieres April 12, and hundreds of movies, including twenty-one Bond movies to watch from April 1.
EPIX will be added and removed from your service with no action needed on your part. And, not to worry, we will not automatically bill you for EPIX after this time. You can add it back if you like it but that's totally up to you.
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Email from YouTube TV
We've been working with our friends at EPIX to provide you with an extended free preview of their channel.
From March 26 through April 25, you can enjoy original series like Pennyworth, Slow Burn, or Belgravia, which premieres April 12, and hundreds of movies, including twenty-one Bond movies to watch from April 1.
EPIX will be added and removed from your service with no action needed on your part. And, not to worry, we will not automatically bill you for EPIX after this time. You can add it back if you like it but that's totally up to you.
Glad I switched to YTTV a while back. 8-)
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James Bond movies are also free on Pluto TV.
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Article on consumers paying for sports tv that they aren't getting.
https://twitter.com/kevinmdraper/status/1245780851247497216?s=19
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Article on consumers paying for sports tv that they aren't getting.
https://twitter.com/kevinmdraper/status/1245780851247497216?s=19
Good article. Even better bar photo.
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Article on consumers paying for sports tv that they aren't getting.
https://twitter.com/kevinmdraper/status/1245780851247497216?s=19
"This is not the case in England, where pay television subscribers are more easily able to buy sports channels separately. Sky Sports, the main provider of televised sports, is allowing customers to pause their subscription payments as long as sports remain postponed."
Hold on. We were all told by someone very knowledgeable that having ESPN, etc. as free standing channels would be impossible.
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"This is not the case in England, where pay television subscribers are more easily able to buy sports channels separately. Sky Sports, the main provider of televised sports, is allowing customers to pause their subscription payments as long as sports remain postponed."
Hold on. We were all told by someone very knowledgeable that having ESPN, etc. as free standing channels would be impossible.
The other nice thing is the Sky Sports model allows for much better coverage of the game. Way WAY WAAAAY less commercial interruption and less needless filler fluff like pregame crap. If you've ever gotten to watch the The Open presented by her Majesty on Sky you'd see how it blows ESPN out of the water.
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I tried to get YTTV but it won't work through my VPN. I googled around for a VPN that's supposed to work with it and ExpressVPN was highly recommended. Bought it. Set it up. It works great. Subscribed to YTTV... blocked.
Because Fox Sports Go is also blocked I missed several MU games last year.
First solution is that MU needs to be in the top 4 in the league, so they don't end up on "Fox Sports South West Milwaukee Suburbs" and get on the real Fox Sports. But given that's not going to happen for a couple more years (sorry, had to) I'm still looking for an offshore TV solution.
Any ideas?
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I tried to get YTTV but it won't work through my VPN. I googled around for a VPN that's supposed to work with it and ExpressVPN was highly recommended. Bought it. Set it up. It works great. Subscribed to YTTV... blocked.
Because Fox Sports Go is also blocked I missed several MU games last year.
First solution is that MU needs to be in the top 4 in the league, so they don't end up on "Fox Sports South West Milwaukee Suburbs" and get on the real Fox Sports. But given that's not going to happen for a couple more years (sorry, had to) I'm still looking for an offshore TV solution.
Any ideas?
Dumb question: Do you really need to run a streaming service through a VPN?
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When you are out of the USA 300 days per year, yes.
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Dumb question: Do you really need to run a streaming service through a VPN?
Well done!
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When you are out of the USA 300 days per year, yes.
What kind of Upload bandwidth do you have at your home?
If it's north of 25 .. here's what I'd do: Set up a router on your home network that can run an SSH tunnel. Then on your laptop, you use PuTTY to open an SSH tunnel back .. configure your browser to use that SSH tunnel, and bob's your uncle.
Now all your traffic is routed back home, then to Netflix, and Netflix thinks you are back in Chicago.
I remember doing this when I had 1.5megs up bandwidth .. that was not great, but it worked.
I tried to find a nice tutorial on this .. found lots of techie ones, but this one might be ok:
https://www.addictivetips.com/vpn/how-setup-use-ssh-tunneling/
This is a decent how-to on setting up your laptop:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiJ2uiFEQQE
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I tried to get YTTV but it won't work through my VPN. I googled around for a VPN that's supposed to work with it and ExpressVPN was highly recommended. Bought it. Set it up. It works great. Subscribed to YTTV... blocked.
Because Fox Sports Go is also blocked I missed several MU games last year.
First solution is that MU needs to be in the top 4 in the league, so they don't end up on "Fox Sports South West Milwaukee Suburbs" and get on the real Fox Sports. But given that's not going to happen for a couple more years (sorry, had to) I'm still looking for an offshore TV solution.
Any ideas?
Try this?
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=56601.msg1041657#msg1041657
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Try this?
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=56601.msg1041657#msg1041657
YTTV has kind of closed this loop. Require a cell phone to confirm location.
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Earlier this year I used the app Fake GPS to watch an MU game while out of the country on YTTV. Worked great.
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ViacomCBS and Google announced a multi-year distribution agreement to bring 14 ViacomCBS channels to YouTube TV, joining the CBS stations on the service. BET, CMT, Comedy Central, MTV, Nickelodeon, Paramount Network, TV Land and VH1 will launch on YouTube TV this summer, the company announced.
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YouTube TV announced it will no longer carry Fox Sports Regionals beginning October 1st when its extension with Sinclair expires.
This is on the heels of a recent 30% price increase.
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YouTube TV announced it will no longer carry Fox Sports Regionals beginning October 1st when its extension with Sinclair expires.
This is on the heels of a recent 30% price increase.
If Fox Sports goes, so do I.
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I rushed into a change last time since we were in the middle of basketball season. At this point, I'll wait it out until we know what the MU schedule looks like. If they have games on FSWI, and there's no deal in place, then I'll switch. At this point, there's no content I need to see on there with no Bucks/Brewers games.
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YouTube TV is the 2020 Presenting Sponsor of the NBA Finals. Half of the league's teams' local broadcasts are on Fox Sports Regionals.
Also, half of MLB and NHL teams have their local broadcasts televised on Fox Sports Regionals.
The local FS Regional and plus channels also carry college football, other college sports, as well as some of the current French Open Tennis Coversge for 2020.
Dish, Sling, Fubu, and YTTV will be without Sinclair's FS Regionals.
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I'm going to keep illegally streaming sports until they figure out a customer-centric way to deliver. Sports channels are living in the dark ages.
All live sports should be on Twitch. I'm surprised that Amazon hasn't made a play yet.
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If Fox Sports goes, so do I.
Yeah, I could sorta understand sticking with YTTV when they had the Fox Sports networks (assuming we really have college hoops). But without FS, YTTV is no better than one of the Sling packages.
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Yeah, I could sorta understand sticking with YTTV when they had the Fox Sports networks (assuming we really have college hoops). But without FS, YTTV is no better than one of the Sling packages.
FS1 and FS2 won't be affected by this.
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If Fox Sports goes, so do I.
Heh, heh, heh. You have to support Sinclair. Heh, heh, heh.
Hulu still has the FS regionals.
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Nothing to worry about yet. The RSN's won't be missing any NBA or NHL for months. Sound like those leagues won't start until 2021.
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Cutting the cord at work, but have to go Hulu because YTTV only supports 3 streams at once. Planning to go YTTV at home if the work experiment is a success.
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Hulu for the $55 plan, has only two streams at once. $10 more you can get the unlimited screens from the home network.
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YouTube TV announced it will no longer carry Fox Sports Regionals beginning October 1st when its extension with Sinclair expires.
This is on the heels of a recent 30% price increase.
Yeah I'm not feeling real happy about having YouTube TV these days. But the antenna we had at home sucked when we had SlingTV so I missed local channels and YouTubeTV was a big draw for that for us.
As others have said, there's not much on the FoxSports Regional networks I'd want to see now but if the college basketball season actually happens and there's no deal in place, I'll probably look into changing.
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Yeah I'm not feeling real happy about having YouTube TV these days. But the antenna we had at home sucked when we had SlingTV so I missed local channels and YouTubeTV was a big draw for that for us.
As others have said, there's not much on the FoxSports Regional networks I'd want to see now but if the college basketball season actually happens and there's no deal in place, I'll probably look into changing.
Even with college basketball, the RSN's are not a major place holder for those games. Other than HULU Live, Sling, YTTV and Fubo don't carry the RSN's.
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AT&T Now and AT&T TV I believe also have the Fox Sports Regional channels.
Half of MLB, NHL, NBA is carried by Fox Sports Regionals in local markets.
In some markets local college sports teams are also covered via Fox Sports Regionals.
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Hulu Live Sinclair RSN's are being dropped.
https://help.hulu.com/s/article/sinclair-rsn?language=en_US
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Hulu Live Sinclair RSN's are being dropped.
https://help.hulu.com/s/article/sinclair-rsn?language=en_US
Crazy. Gonna end up pushing us all back to cable.
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Wall Street Journal article on Sinclair RSN's.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/creditors-brace-for-possible-debt-restructuring-at-sinclair-sports-unit-11603235294
The NHL has previously said it would like to start January 1st. So that would be the earliest major sport RSN affected. The hope is that new deals will be in place in a few months with some. I don't see Dish/Sling ever getting them back, but I would have to think YTTV, Hulu Live etc...would need to make deals to keep some of their sports customers.
ESPN announced it is moving all feature writing and analysis content to ESPN+.
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Crazy. Gonna end up pushing us all back to cable.
Not me. I'm saving $65 per month and get all the sports networks (I need) with YTTV. I would miss the Brewers, yet April is long ways away.
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Does anyone have Fubo TV right now?
My understanding is they don’t carry FS Regionals as well as TBS, TNT, TNT etc...which would be an issue with college hoops, NBA, MLB, etc...and no TC either.
Cost and channels seems pretty similar to YTTV. I need a variety of channels to please different interests.
Can get La Liga and other soccer on Fanatiz stream for $7.99 month, and HD quality seems fine.
What about DVR? YTTV is unlimited which is great, but I dislike that if you record a premium channel show or movie and you no longer subscribe to that channel, they block you from watching it. That’s ridiculous. In the past I could record anything, pay per view, premium channel etc on Satellite and it stayed there permanently.
I was previously able to watch Pac 12 Network for many years but almost no one has that. They are disastrously run.
Thoughts?
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Netflix price increase:
https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2020/10/29/21540346/netflix-price-increase-united-states-standard-premium-content-product-features?utm_campaign=theverge&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&__twitter_impression=true
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So, assuming games are on FSW this year.......what service is carrying this channel? I apologize but seems everyone is dropping Sinclair. Thank you
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So, assuming games are on FSW this year.......is my only/best option HULU Live?
Nope. They dropped em too. Cable/DTV/ATTnow are the remaining options.
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So, assuming games are on FSW this year.......what service is carrying this channel? I apologize but seems everyone is dropping Sinclair. Thank you
AT&T Now is carrrying FS Regionals in its $80 plan. Some Cable is carrying them but not others.
Others including whom you mentioned are not likely to renew deals until at least January or February at the earliest.
Sinclair overpaid for the 21 Channels, $9.6 Billion, and their value is now half of that. Revenue is recently down 30% plus. Sinclair, as many know has a far right wing political slant, and their political ad revenue did well, similar gains to their sports losses.
YouTube TV and Hulu Live make up roughly 10% of Sinclair's revenue for those.
So, we'll see in January etc...what is going on at that time.
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Thank you
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Thank you
Sure. 👍 One key to look for is when will NHL and NBA start up again. NHL had previously wanted to do it Jan 1. Shortly before and after those restarts will be when they are likely to make deals.
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Not me. I'm saving $65 per month and get all the sports networks (I need) with YTTV. I would miss the Brewers, yet April is long ways away.
We recently moved. Had Verizon Fios. Now we have access to Comcast and ATT.
The channels that we need are ACC Network and ESPNU. Is there a way to get those through cord cutting? Wife also wants HGTV
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The channels that we need are ACC Network and ESPNU. Is there a wife to get those through cord cutting?
Woof. That's a tricky one, tell her YouTube TV has HGTV and you'll also get ACC Network and ESPNU.
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We recently moved. Had Verizon Fios. Now we have access to Comcast and ATT.
The channels that we need are ACC Network and ESPNU. Is there a wife to get those through cord cutting?
$5 month ESPN+ app will get you both channels plus many ACC Extra games for a wide variety of ACC sports, as well as many other games from various leagues college and pro. That would easily be the best price/deal.
The only negative would be not being able to record the games to ff, rw etc...which is something I do frequently. (I am a frequent ACC Network viewer, as well as some others). It's also a little slower to jump out of the app to switch channels back and forth.
Other providers have both channels, such as YouTube TV, which I also have. And YTTV has unlimited recording, ff, rw etc....but it's $65 a month with the recent price increase.
ACC Network, similar to SEC Network, has pretty good distribution.
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Woof. That's a tricky one, tell her YouTube TV has HGTV and you'll also get ACC Network and ESPNU.
Correction made
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$5 month ESPN+ app will get you both channels plus many ACC Extra games for a wide variety of ACC sports, as well as many other games from various leagues college and pro. That would easily be the best price/deal.
The only negative would be not being able to record the games to ff, rw etc...which is something I do frequently. (I am a frequent ACC Network viewer, as well as some others). It's also a little slower to jump out of the app to switch channels back and forth.
Other providers have both channels, such as YouTube TV, which I also have. And YTTV has unlimited recording, ff, rw etc....but it's $65 a month with the recent price increase.
ACC Network, similar to SEC Network, has pretty good distribution.
I definitely need to record games and also be able to save them on a storage media.
I also need ACC Network Extra does that come with YTTV?
Also does Hulu carry these networks?
I may have to be Away from home from an extended period of time so that is why I am looking into these options.
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I definitely need to record games and also be able to save them on a storage media.
I also need ACC Network Extra does that come with YTTV?
Also does Hulu carry these networks?
I may have to be Away from home from an extended period of time so that is why I am looking into these options.
Unfortunately the ESPN App, while good, does not allow recording games. However, you can watch previously aired games on demand on the ESPN app. So no need to record if you do that.
ACC Network Extra can be watched in ESPN App at no extra charge, with any tv provider subscription.
You can record anything on ACC Network with YouTube TV. They just don't carry ACC Network Extra. If you only need ACC Network Channel, this is a good option. Same for Hulu.
Hulu Live carries ACC Network. Hulu Live is similar to YouTube TV. Fubo TV also has ACC Network. None of these will have the extra "ACC Network Extra" games on their platforms. But you can get these games via the ESPN App. with any of these providers as the login.
Sling has packages that get ACC Network Extra (as well as ACC Network) But note, if you need Fox Sports Regionals, Sling is not likely to ever carry them again. Just an Fyi. Sling is owned by Dish Network. They have a variety of packages to choose from. That may be your recording option of ACC Network Extra games, on Sling.
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Hulu is notifying Hulu with Live customers that the price of the live TV streaming service will increase to $64.99/month beginning December 18. That’s a $10 per month increase.
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Hulu is notifying Hulu with Live customers that the price of the live TV streaming service will increase to $64.99/month beginning December 18. That’s a $10 per month increase.
Yep. We got this. We are paying $65 for internet and streaming Hulu (as well as Netflix and Prime Video). Almost makes me want to go back to cable at this point.
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Unfortunately the ESPN App, while good, does not allow recording games. However, you can watch previously aired games on demand on the ESPN app. So no need to record if you do that.
ACC Network Extra can be watched in ESPN App at no extra charge, with any tv provider subscription.
You can record anything on ACC Network with YouTube TV. They just don't carry ACC Network Extra. If you only need ACC Network Channel, this is a good option. Same for Hulu.
Hulu Live carries ACC Network. Hulu Live is similar to YouTube TV. Fubo TV also has ACC Network. None of these will have the extra "ACC Network Extra" games on their platforms. But you can get these games via the ESPN App. with any of these providers as the login.
Sling has packages that get ACC Network Extra (as well as ACC Network) But note, if you need Fox Sports Regionals, Sling is not likely to ever carry them again. Just an Fyi. Sling is owned by Dish Network. They have a variety of packages to choose from. That may be your recording option of ACC Network Extra games, on Sling.
Thanks for this . I need ACC Network, ACC Network Extra , ESPNU and ability to record/playback. So it seems like not much difference between the cord cutters and Cable when all said and done.
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Thanks for this . I need ACC Network, ACC Network Extra , ESPNU and ability to record/playback. So it seems like not much difference between the cord cutters and Cable when all said and done.
Sure.
You could spend just $5 a month for ESPN+ subscription, and save a lot of money monthly by watching completed games later on demand vs recording them. This would allow you to add less expensive tv/movie subscriptions as needed. By doing this combo, you would avoid the $65 a month and up costs.
Me, for example, I have YouTube TV, ($65) ESPN+, ($5), Netflix and Amazon Prime Video. But I combine those costs over multiple locations, multiple family members. Therefore the monthly savings is still considerable. And I can (and do) drop things from time to time.
It's much easier to add drop service monthly with cord cutting unlike satellite and cable. And you can always add an app subscription for a month, watch the shows or movies you want and drop it. I did this with Apple TV. I was only interested in one show. I signed up for a free trial and wound up paying nothing and dropping it.
I don't foresee myself going back to cable/satellite any time soon. (And I had Dish, DirecTV, and Cable.) I will monitor things as they change. I am also much more content with my tv packages as opposed to more frequent frustrations with satellite and cable.
Good luck.
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Bally's inks deal with Sinclair's Fox Sports Regionals:
https://nypost.com/2020/11/18/sinclair-broadcasting-to-rename-sports-channels-after-ballys-casinos/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
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Regarding MUBB exclusively.....
I’m thinking $30 Sling Blue (FS1) with the $10 Sports package (FS2 and Pac 12).
Anyone disagree?
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Regarding MUBB exclusively.....
I’m thinking $30 Sling Blue (FS1) with the $10 Sports package (FS2 and Pac 12).
Anyone disagree?
CBSSN shows Big East games. Two MU games will land on that network in Jan/Feb. Yet, Sling is an excellent way to go!
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Ok—good to know.
I think I’ll do Sling + sports for 2 months....then switch to YTTB when MU games on CBSSN are known.
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Sinclair CEO Chris RIpley, said in an interview, that FS Regionals will be available as an independent direct to consumer subscription stream, some time later in 2021. (This is in addition to cable/satellite/streaming tv packages.)
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It begins...
https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3116589/comcast-announces-internet-data-caps-and-overage-fees-for-customers-coming-in-2021
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Sinclair CEO Chris RIpley, said in an interview, that FS Regionals will be available as an independent direct to consumer subscription stream, some time later in 2021. (This is in addition to cable/satellite/streaming tv packages.)
This is a local market FS regionals piece, but, it applies to any FS Regional market with regards to Sinclair and FS Regionals in 2021:
https://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/media-views-fsm-to-move-very-quickly-with-its-sports-betting-plan/article_2bdc9405-8d68-5baf-87e1-9feb69d9bf34.amp.html?__twitter_impression=true
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Me, for example, I have YouTube TV, ($65) ESPN+, ($5), Netflix and Amazon Prime Video. But I combine those costs over multiple locations, multiple family members. Therefore the monthly savings is still considerable. And I can (and do) drop things from time to time.
This is a great (and probably underused) option.
I was going to drop YouTubeTV, but then I realized I wasn't taking full advantage of the family sharing option. Both of my daughters were paying separately for their own services, so they dropped them and I added them as separate family members. Now my $65 covers three separate households, and they can arrange the channel lineup however they want, do their own separate recording and favoriting of shows. All for an average of ~$22 per household.
Of course my bill didn't personally go down, but it's a win when I can help them save a little money.
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Is that really legit? This is all I found on the YouTubeTV site. Seems everyone must be in the same household and then up to 3 streams are permitted.
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Can I share my membership?
Yes, your YouTube TV membership comes with 6 accounts to share with roommates or family members in your household. (Ages 13 and up.) Everyone gets their own login, personalized content recommendations, and individual DVR library. Up to 3 simultaneous streams are allowed per membership.
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Seems everyone must be in the same household and then up to 3 streams are permitted.
My brother is on our account and has never run into an issue. If the people are outside of the home area, I think they'll need to login periodically from where the account originated to reset the clock.
That said, with the NBA three weeks away now, I need FS Wisconsin, and I'm assuming Sinclair won't reach any deals before then. I have ATT internet which takes me out of some Spectrum bundle deals. Has anyone used their streaming services? It's a little pricey, but cheaper than cable.
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Is that really legit? This is all I found on the YouTubeTV site. Seems everyone must be in the same household and then up to 3 streams are permitted.
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Can I share my membership?
Yes, your YouTube TV membership comes with 6 accounts to share with roommates or family members in your household. (Ages 13 and up.) Everyone gets their own login, personalized content recommendations, and individual DVR library. Up to 3 simultaneous streams are allowed per membership.
Yes, multiple separate accounts are real. I have shared with two daughters who live in different cities. The each get their own separate streams on up to 3 devices, and can set the channel lineup and DVR independently of me.
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My brother is on our account and has never run into an issue. If the people are outside of the home area, I think they'll need to login periodically from where the account originated to reset the clock.
That said, with the NBA three weeks away now, I need FS Wisconsin, and I'm assuming Sinclair won't reach any deals before then. I have ATT internet which takes me out of some Spectrum bundle deals. Has anyone used their streaming services? It's a little pricey, but cheaper than cable.
I've been a DirecTVNow into ATTNow customer from the beginning. Still have my grandfathered in account where I get $25 off per month from about 3 years ago.
It's an ok system. Does the job well. Wife who hates using technology finds it easy to use. Has (had) the largest channel offerings.
Have you thought of VPN with streaming NBA Ticket?
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Yes, multiple separate accounts are real. I have shared with two daughters who live in different cities. The each get their own separate streams on up to 3 devices, and can set the channel lineup and DVR independently of me.
That is odd that it works. You get 3 streams per member, not account.
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I've been a DirecTVNow into ATTNow customer from the beginning. Still have my grandfathered in account where I get $25 off per month from about 3 years ago.
It's an ok system. Does the job well. Wife who hates using technology finds it easy to use. Has (had) the largest channel offerings.
Have you thought of VPN with streaming NBA Ticket?
I have, but honestly I'd just want the ease of being able to flip around in one app.
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YouTube TV dropped the Tennis Channel.
WGN America has reached a multi-year carriage deal with YouTube TV, beginning January 19, 2021.
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YouTube TV dropped the Tennis Channel.
WGN America has reached a multi-year carriage deal with YouTube TV, beginning January 19, 2021.
It will surprise few that Sinclair owns Tennis Channel.
As posted here before, Sinclair has a new strategy of on screen gambling during sports while people watch them on tv. This will happen early 2021. They will use this revenue to offset subscriber losses, until they roll out their direct to consumer subscriptions later in 2021.
For reference Tennis Channel Plus is an overpriced, difficult add/drop service.
The biggest problem with YouTube TV is their terrible customer service. In the past it was great. Call came immediately after request from California. Problem negotiated and resolved quickly.
The only phone customer service with YTTV right now is International. And, out of country customer service has limited power, and limited flexibility, to problem solve.
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I apologize; I’m sure this is answered somewhere, but I can’t find it.
We switched to Hulu Live, which had worked well up to this point, but I want to watch the UCLA game. We have a Roku; is there a free trial I can sign up for to watch Friday’s game? Sling maybe?
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I apologize; I’m sure this is answered somewhere, but I can’t find it.
We switched to Hulu Live, which had worked well up to this point, but I want to watch the UCLA game. We have a Roku; is there a free trial I can sign up for to watch Friday’s game? Sling maybe?
I don't know about Sling but YouTube TV has a 7 day free trial - unless, of course, that is what you switched from.
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I don't know about Sling but YouTube TV has a 7 day free trial - unless, of course, that is what you switched from.
I believe he wants Pac 12 Network. YouTube TV does not carry Pac 12 Network.
Dish, which owns Sling has Pac 12 Network. I would have to look up Sling but I would guess they have it. And I would imagine one could do a free trial to get the MU v UCLA game.
I looked it up because I need the same thing to see it.
1) Fubo TV Free 7 day trial no questions asked, has Pac 12 Network.
2) Sling has Pac 12 Network in orange or blue package. See if you can get a free trial to see the UCLA game.
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I believe he wants Pac 12 Network. YouTube TV does not carry Pac 12 Network.
Dish, which owns Sling has Pac 12 Network. I would have to look up Sling but I would guess they have it. And I would imagine one could do a free trial to get the MU v UCLA game.
I looked it up because I need the same thing to see it.
1) Fubo TV Free 7 day trial no questions asked, has Pac 12 Network.
2) Sling has Pac 12 Network in orange or blue package. See if you can get a free trial to see the UCLA game.
Thanks. I’m just looking to watch the UCLA game, YTTV does not seem like an option, so I will explore the orange/blue Sling or Fubo option. I appreciate the advice.
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I believe he wants Pac 12 Network. YouTube TV does not carry Pac 12 Network.
Dish, which owns Sling has Pac 12 Network. I would have to look up Sling but I would guess they have it. And I would imagine one could do a free trial to get the MU v UCLA game.
I looked it up because I need the same thing to see it.
1) Fubo TV Free 7 day trial no questions asked, has Pac 12 Network.
2) Sling has Pac 12 Network in orange or blue package. See if you can get a free trial to see the UCLA game.
OK. I just assumed he wanted fS1 because he has Wisconsin in his name.
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Thanks. I’m just looking to watch the UCLA game, YTTV does not seem like an option, so I will explore the orange/blue Sling or Fubo option. I appreciate the advice.
Sure. 👍 I have YTTV, and, you are correct, it is not an option for the UCLA game on Pac 12 Network. I will also be trying one of the two you are doing. Those are the only two I know of to try.
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Sure. 👍 I have YTTV, and, you are correct, it is not an option for the UCLA game on Pac 12 Network. I will also be trying one of the two you are doing. Those are the only two I know of to try.
Isn’t the game on FS1 as well on YTTV?
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Isn’t the game on FS1 as well on YTTV?
I thought it was a Pac 12 Network Game only. That is why we were trying to figure out how to get Pac 12 Network, just for this game.
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I thought it was a Pac 12 Network Game only.
I'm pretty certain you are correct. Unless things have changed from Marquette's official schedule:
https://gomarquette.com/sports/mens-basketball/schedule
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I'm pretty certain you are correct. Unless things have changed from Marquette's official schedule:
https://gomarquette.com/sports/mens-basketball/schedule
Looks like you're right. I was thinking about tomorrow's game for some reason.
Looks like FUBO or Sling for Ucla.
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Looks like you're right. I was thinking about tomorrow's game for some reason.
Looks like FUBO or Sling for Ucla.
Or buffstreams
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I've said it 10k times, it's on the Pac-12 Network. It's in the TV schedule thread. Link in the thread is what provider has the PAC-12 Networks.
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=60894.msg1278724#msg1278724
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I've said it 10k times, it's on the Pac-12 Network. It's in the TV schedule thread. Link in the thread is what provider has the PAC-12 Networks.
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=60894.msg1278724#msg1278724
I think you said it twice. :)
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Mr. Nielsen—
Looking forward to March....assuming Madness is on.....are games scheduled to be on TBS, TNT, etc. as in years past?
My sling deal runs out end of January, so
Looking into all options.
Thank you in advance.
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Mr. Nielsen—
Looking forward to March....assuming Madness is on.....are games scheduled to be on TBS, TNT, etc. as in years past?
My sling deal runs out end of January, so
Looking into all options.
Thank you in advance.
Yes! CBS, TBS, TNT and Tru Tv.
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Going back to more of the same. The Discovery family of channels had been hyping Discovery+ Channel for $5.00 month starting Jan 4 and my wife has been waiting for Discovery of Witches Season 2 which seems to be appearing on Jan 9 on the new ap AMC+ first before the broadcast channel.
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What are people using to watch Fox Sports Regional Channels? Many services aren't carrying them.
NBA has started.
NHL starts in two weeks.
Tennis has started.
Sinclair owns most of the channels affiliated with these sports. Their direct to consumer product is not expected to be available until later this year.
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What are people using to watch Fox Sports Regional Channels? Many services aren't carrying them.
My buddy's login at this point. It's been fine for the most part, despite FS Go being about 90 seconds behind live action.
Spectrum quoted me a first year rate of $30/mo more, no real deals available since I don't use them for internet. I'm going back and forth on ATT TV... with discounts it would be the same as YTTV for the first year, but it's a 2 year contract, and I'm not sure I want that.
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What are people using to watch Fox Sports Regional Channels?
I would think most user who have (YTTV, HULU Live, Sling, FUBO & Dish) will just not be watching. I'm not going back to Spectrum. My Spectrum bill was $200 per month.
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I would think most user who have (YTTV, HULU Live, Sling, FUBO & Dish) will just not be watching. I'm not going back to Spectrum. My Spectrum bill was $200 per month.
People are watching, just not legally.
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My buddy's login at this point. It's been fine for the most part, despite FS Go being about 90 seconds behind live action.
Spectrum quoted me a first year rate of $30/mo more, no real deals available since I don't use them for internet. I'm going back and forth on ATT TV... with discounts it would be the same as YTTV for the first year, but it's a 2 year contract, and I'm not sure I want that.
Looking at AT&T Now, fine print has $8.49 Regional Sports Fee. Is this in addition to package price? I would have to get ay least the Extra Package at minimum, or higher to get the channels that people want. AT&T Now appears to get at least 4 channels not carried by YTTV. And for one of those two years HBO Max is included which is $15 elsewhere.
How does the sports regional fee work?
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People are watching, just not legally.
r/ncaabballstreams
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Looking at AT&T Now, fine print has $8.49 Regional Sports Fee. Is this in addition to package price? I would have to get ay least the Extra Package at minimum, or higher to get the channels that people want. AT&T Now appears to get at least 4 channels not carried by YTTV. And for one of those two years HBO Max is included which is $15 elsewhere.
How does the sports regional fee work?
I'm honestly not sure... I looked at the ATT TV package (the one with the actual box) and it had it as a line item, but not an extra cost. I think it depends on the area.
Jump from year 1 to year 2 was substantial, though. $50/mo more for the package I was looking at. Don't think I'll be going that route.
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Unfortunately the ESPN App, while good, does not allow recording games. However, you can watch previously aired games on demand on the ESPN app. So no need to record if you do that.
ACC Network Extra can be watched in ESPN App at no extra charge, with any tv provider subscription.
You can record anything on ACC Network with YouTube TV. They just don't carry ACC Network Extra. If you only need ACC Network Channel, this is a good option. Same for Hulu.
Hulu Live carries ACC Network. Hulu Live is similar to YouTube TV. Fubo TV also has ACC Network. None of these will have the extra "ACC Network Extra" games on their platforms. But you can get these games via the ESPN App. with any of these providers as the login.
Sling has packages that get ACC Network Extra (as well as ACC Network) But note, if you need Fox Sports Regionals, Sling is not likely to ever carry them again. Just an Fyi. Sling is owned by Dish Network. They have a variety of packages to choose from. That may be your recording option of ACC Network Extra games, on Sling.
So do I need a TV subscription or Sling with the ESPN App to get ACC Network Extra?
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So do I need a TV subscription or Sling with the ESPN App to get ACC Network Extra?
Yes.
The ESPN app is an add on service for people who already get/subscribe to ESPN with their TV carrier/streaming service, as opposed to a stand alone service.
So maybe try to get the least expensive tv/stream subscription to gain "Extra" access.
Now, when in ESPN app, some games will be included and some are considered "Plus" games. I have the ESPN+ $6 a month add on so I get any game in the ESPN app whether or not it's a Plus game. Some are some aren't.
Let's use your ACC example. I too watch a lot of ACC (SEC, Pac12, etc..in a wide variety of sports).
ACC. You will get many ACC games in many sports, men and women. And you don't have to leave the app to watch ACC Network or ESPN etc...
I can watch one of my schools play their entire baseball schedule, entire soccer schedule, etc...and so on, not to mention some pro sports...etc...
You also can watch games on demand that you may have missed.
But the ESPN app and ESPN+ are not designed to show live sports without some sort of general tv or streaming subscription that includes ESPN.
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Yes.
The ESPN app is an add on service for people who already get/subscribe to ESPN with their TV carrier/streaming service, as opposed to a stand alone service.
So maybe try to get the least expensive tv/stream subscription to gain "Extra" access.
Now, when in ESPN app, some games will be included and some are considered "Plus" games. I have the ESPN+ $6 a month add on so I get any game in the ESPN app whether or not it's a Plus game. Some are some aren't.
Let's use your ACC example. I too watch a lot of ACC (SEC, Pac12, etc..in a wide variety of sports).
ACC. You will get many ACC games in many sports, men and women. And you don't have to leave the app to watch ACC Network or ESPN etc...
I can watch one of my schools play their entire baseball schedule, entire soccer schedule, etc...and so on, not to mention some pro sports...etc...
You also can watch games on demand that you may have missed.
But the ESPN app and ESPN+ are not designed to show live sports without some sort of general tv or streaming subscription that includes ESPN.
The disney/hulu/espn bundle is a good deal.
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Yes.
The ESPN app is an add on service for people who already get/subscribe to ESPN with their TV carrier/streaming service, as opposed to a stand alone service.
So maybe try to get the least expensive tv/stream subscription to gain "Extra" access.
Now, when in ESPN app, some games will be included and some are considered "Plus" games. I have the ESPN+ $6 a month add on so I get any game in the ESPN app whether or not it's a Plus game. Some are some aren't.
Let's use your ACC example. I too watch a lot of ACC (SEC, Pac12, etc..in a wide variety of sports).
ACC. You will get many ACC games in many sports, men and women. And you don't have to leave the app to watch ACC Network or ESPN etc...
I can watch one of my schools play their entire baseball schedule, entire soccer schedule, etc...and so on, not to mention some pro sports...etc...
You also can watch games on demand that you may have missed.
But the ESPN app and ESPN+ are not designed to show live sports without some sort of general tv or streaming subscription that includes ESPN.
Thanks for the clarification . I definitely need the ACC Network Extra access to watch all the games .
The disney/hulu/espn bundle is a good deal.
Thanks I will look into this.
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Does anyone stream AT&T Now. If so, I have a few questions, thanks.
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Does anyone stream AT&T Now. If so, I have a few questions, thanks.
Yes. Have had it 3+ years since the DirecTV Now days.
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Yes. Have had it 3+ years since the DirecTV Now days.
Thoughts?
Doing a trial.
So far, it's not bad. I prefer the YTTV user experience, graphics, layout. Connection seems to be a little better with AT&T Now, which os good but both fine.
I am doing it for the Sinclair channels until Sinclair goes direct to consumer later this year. There seem to be about a half dozen channels or so that YTTV has that I don't see AT&T Now getting. Not ideal but good enough.
Are you doing the $80 w/HBO etc...and if so, is the HBO indefinite or limited time included? $80 npt including that would be a bit more expensive without those other missing channels. How often have their been price increases.
YTTV is $65 w/o that. That was a lot of negative feedback when it went from $50 to $65.
I do like unlimited recording with YTTV. With recording say a tv show, does each episode of one show count against the 500 hours? I would have to to delete more often.
How is customer service? Can you call and get a live person? YTTV began with very good customer service but it has declined dramatically.
Thx.
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I have an old grandfathered in plan (Go Big Plan) that is no longer available so I get every channel I would want in Chicago except for the NFL Network & RedZone. Also don't get Pac-12. But gull suite of CBS/Viacom (CBS, MTV, Nick, etc), Discovery Family (Food, Cooking, etc), ABC/Disney/ESPN, Fox Family (FS1, FS2, FX, etc). I essentially get everything but Starz. I get HBO through my cell subscription.
I pay $60/mo since I get a $25 discount off my plan each month since I have an ATT Cell Plan through work. This was an offer they made when DirecTV Now first launched and is the main reason I don't switch since the price is so good. User interface takes time to get used to but it works fine. Stream quality is nice but I think that's because they have a bit more lag I find which is why I have a good HD antenna for when I want to be in real time on free TV sporting events.
I have never had an issue with my service so I don't know about calling customer service. I have ATT Fiber internet so streaming has never been an issue. I think I have had like 1 or 2 brief outages but nothing big. I find Google customer service to be abhorrent. I say this as someone who is deep into their ecosystem too.
We only have 20 hours of DVR which is fine for my wife and I. With our other streaming subscriptions we have it's never an issue. Also, I can't stand full DVR's. It's a personal issue.
I will say if ATT were to get rid of my discount I would probably look hard at Fubo. I have some friends who have it and really dig it.
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I have an old grandfathered in plan (Go Big Plan) that is no longer available so I get every channel I would want in Chicago except for the NFL Network & RedZone. Also don't get Pac-12. But gull suite of CBS/Viacom (CBS, MTV, Nick, etc), Discovery Family (Food, Cooking, etc), ABC/Disney/ESPN, Fox Family (FS1, FS2, FX, etc). I essentially get everything but Starz. I get HBO through my cell subscription.
If they still offered that plan, that would be the route I'd go. But I would miss Food Network and a couple of those Discovery channels.
Has anyone here used the newer ATT TV with the box? That one had all the channels I'd need plus free League Pass. But the $50 price hike after year one is a little tough to take.
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I have an old grandfathered in plan (Go Big Plan) that is no longer available so I get every channel I would want in Chicago except for the NFL Network & RedZone. Also don't get Pac-12. But gull suite of CBS/Viacom (CBS, MTV, Nick, etc), Discovery Family (Food, Cooking, etc), ABC/Disney/ESPN, Fox Family (FS1, FS2, FX, etc). I essentially get everything but Starz. I get HBO through my cell subscription.
I pay $60/mo since I get a $25 discount off my plan each month since I have an ATT Cell Plan through work. This was an offer they made when DirecTV Now first launched and is the main reason I don't switch since the price is so good. User interface takes time to get used to but it works fine. Stream quality is nice but I think that's because they have a bit more lag I find which is why I have a good HD antenna for when I want to be in real time on free TV sporting events.
I have never had an issue with my service so I don't know about calling customer service. I have ATT Fiber internet so streaming has never been an issue. I think I have had like 1 or 2 brief outages but nothing big. I find Google customer service to be abhorrent. I say this as someone who is deep into their ecosystem too.
We only have 20 hours of DVR which is fine for my wife and I. With our other streaming subscriptions we have it's never an issue. Also, I can't stand full DVR's. It's a personal issue.
I will say if ATT were to get rid of my discount I would probably look hard at Fubo. I have some friends who have it and really dig it.
Ok thanks.
I still delete some things in YTTV DVR once in a while to clean it up. But unlimited helps in various ways. Let's say someone misses a 4 hour sporting event, they can watch it when they can. Let's say someone likes a television show like Law & Order. It has 20 seasons, and all of them are there to choose from.
I don't like that if you record a movie on YTTV on a premium channel, amd later drop that channel, YTTV locks the movie until you subscribe to that channel again. In the past with Satellite, if I recorded pay per view, premium channel anything, it was there forever. Also when recording something in progress it only records partially until that show or movie or event re-airs.
It would appear there are only two options with AT&T Now. I believe they are the only ones left that stream Sinclair channels. (No Fubo). Sinclair owns most (not all) local market NBA, NHL, MLB teams games, as well as Tennis Channel. That's big. It is the single driving force for the trial and possible switch. (Declining customer service is a distant 2nd)
I am not interested in returning to cable/satellite.
For us its miss your favorite sports teams games or switch at this point. It would appear Sinclair isn't going to make any deals with carriers. They are adding on screen gambling during games to make $ until their new direct to consumer app comes out later this year.
I'm not even sure how long the HBO is included. It may be a limited time. i have to check.
AT&T Now seems fine. I don't bundle with them or use them for anything else. So it would appear its $80 to get the sports channels mentioned. And these are almost daily games etc...to either have or not.
I hoping Sinclair's new app comes out sooner than later, and that it is a reasonable price.
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Regarding AT&T, news today that they have folded AT&T TV Now into AT&T TV and have stopped taking new customers for the AT&T TV Now streaming service.
Existing customers can remain but if you leave for a different provider, you cannot come back. And if you change from the "Go Big" plan, you will not get it back as it has been discontinued except for current subscribers.
Never dull in the AT&T TV world.
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Regarding AT&T, news today that they have folded AT&T TV Now into AT&T TV and have stopped taking new customers for the AT&T TV Now streaming service.
Existing customers can remain but if you leave for a different provider, you cannot come back. And if you change from the "Go Big" plan, you will not get it back as it has been discontinued except for current subscribers.
Never dull in the AT&T TV world.
When I started the trial I couldn't find AT&T Now app because it does not exist. It is AT&T TV app only.
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If they still offered that plan, that would be the route I'd go. But I would miss Food Network and a couple of those Discovery channels.
Has anyone here used the newer ATT TV with the box? That one had all the channels I'd need plus free League Pass. But the $50 price hike after year one is a little tough to take.
You have to get Discovery+ for $5 per month.
Discovery networks are pulling a bait and switch. Over the holidays my family started watching a few new shows on Travel & Discovery and this week they've been advertising "that to continue watching this show you must purchase the App as they will only be available there."
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Hello Bally Sports Regionals, goodbye Fox Sports Regionals:
https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily/Morning-Buzz/2021/01/27/Ballys-RSNs.aspx
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You have to get Discovery+ for $5 per month.
Discovery networks are pulling a bait and switch. Over the holidays my family started watching a few new shows on Travel & Discovery and this week they've been advertising "that to continue watching this show you must purchase the App as they will only be available there."
I recently did an AT&T TV trial. I was taken aback at how at how many less channels they had vs YTTV, roughly 15-20 channels. The various Discovery owned channels were among them.
AT&T TV gets Fox/Ballys Sports Regionals and Tennis Channel, both owned by Sinclair. YTTV dropped them this past year. AT&T TV gets one of the Hallmark channels. YTTV doesn't get any of those. And, AT&T TV gets HBO.
The hope was that Sinclair would complete some distribution deals for NHL/NBA seasons. But that hasn't happened. It appears they are simply waiting to release their own stand alone app some time in 2021.
While AT&T is fine, I prefer to have YTTV, and to add a (hopefully) reasonable priced Sinclair app. I am skeptical because the Tennis Channel Plus app owned by Sinclair is not ideal.
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Hello Bally Sports Regionals, goodbye Fox Sports Regionals:
https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily/Morning-Buzz/2021/01/27/Ballys-RSNs.aspx
I saw that it was a donedeal in the naming today. Didn't know where to put it, as it's not a cord cutting item. Most thought this would happen before the start of the MLB season.
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I saw that it was a donedeal in the naming today. Didn't know where to put it, as it's not a cord cutting item. Most thought this would happen before the start of the MLB season.
AT&T TV, DirecTV, and some cable outlets, are the only places carrying Sinclair channels.
Everyone else will have to wait to get their new, yet to be released, direct to consumer, app. If they want to watch much of NHL/NBA/MLB. It's big for cord cutters because only one streaming service offers Sinclair channels at this time.
This gives them some additional revenue.
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AT&T TV, DirecTV, and some cable outlets, are the only places carrying Sinclair channels.
Everyone else will have to wait to get their new, yet to be released, direct to consumer, app. If they want to watch much of NHL/NBA/MLB. It's big for cord cutters because only one streaming service offers Sinclair channels at this time.
This gives them some additional revenue.
Spectrum Cable is a big company that still has it.
That direct to consumer, app I hear won't be until the end of the year. So, as of now does no good if one is a MLB fan. Who even knows what the cost will be!?!
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Spectrum Cable is a big company that still has it.
That direct to consumer, app I hear won't be until the end of the year. So, as of now does no go if one is a MLB fan. Who even knows what the cost will be!?!
More than half of NHL and NBA teams show their games on FS Regional Channels. People don't need to wait for MLB to miss games. That's already started.
Many people out there have Dish, YTTV, Hulu, Fubo, etc...other, and so on...
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No way will I ever give Sinclair any of my money.
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More than half of NHL and NBA teams show their games on FS Regional Channels. People don't need to wait for MLB to miss games. That's already started.
Many people out there have Dish, YTTV, Hulu, Fubo, etc...other, and so on...
While that is all true, the demand for MLB on the RSN's are much stronger than NBA/NHL.
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While that is all true, the demand for MLB on the RSN's are much stronger than NBA/NHL.
What I said was that it also does no good to be an NHL/NBA fan either. One doesn't have to wait for MLB to notice the missing games.
While it's true that MLB does higher local regional sports channel ratings, (no one said they didn't), the missed games thus far have been noticed by a significant number of people. That matters. Some NBA teams for example, would be close to the top 10 MLB teams with regards to local regional sports channel ratings. That's pretty significant, which is the point, that one doesn't need to wait for MLB season to notice. Many NBA and NHL fans have already noticed for a while.
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Sling TV has increased the price of both its Sling Orange and Sling Blue packages by $5, bringing the price of each to $35/month. The combination of Sling Orange and Sling Blue will cost new customers $50/month, up from $45/month.
With the price increase, Sling TV is upping the amount of Cloud DVR storage with each plan. Previously, subscribers had 10 hours of DVR storage included. Now, plans come with 50 hours of DVR storage with the option to upgrade to 200 hours.
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YouTube TV announced another add-on today.
The Entertainment Plus bundle includes HBO Max, Showtime, and Starz for $29.99/month on top of your YouTube TV monthly subscription.
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Does anyone know if there has been any momentum towards YTTV adding Fox Regional/Bally's stations back to their package? I thought I saw something the other day about the Brewers being back on YTTV, but I can't find that anywhere now.
Apologies if this has already been discussed - I didn't see it addressed directly in the last 2 pages of this thread.
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Does anyone know if there has been any momentum towards YTTV adding Fox Regional/Bally's stations back to their package? I thought I saw something the other day about the Brewers being back on YTTV, but I can't find that anywhere now.
Apologies if this has already been discussed - I didn't see it addressed directly in the last 2 pages of this thread.
The recent agreement is between the Brewers and Sinclair to continue airing Brewers game on the Fox Sports Regional (Wisconsin) which is being rebranded to Bally's Sports Wisconsin.
Later this year, Sinclair will release its own direct to consumer app/stream, but, it is not expected until later in the year.
If you stream the only place to get it is AT&T TV. ($80-$85 package)
Otherwise, DirecTV owned by AT&T, and, some cable outlets have it.
I would not be surprised if there were no new deals until Sinclair releases their own product.
For reference, Sinclair owns Tennis Channel. And their Tennis Channel Plus streaming service is 12 months for $110. No month to month.
I would have to imagine Sinclair would go month to month with the new one. I do not have my hopes up that Sinclair will get it correct on their first try. We will see.
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Thanks for the info.
So if Sinclair plans to start their own streaming service, is it safe to assume that the sinclair sports stations won't be put back on YTTV anytime soon?
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Thanks for the info.
So if Sinclair plans to start their own streaming service, is it safe to assume that the sinclair sports stations won't be put back on YTTV anytime soon?
In my opinion (worth 2 cents) I don't believe Sinclair will reach any new agreements with anyone. They have a previous agreement with AT&T and some cable.
Sinclair will use the new gambling revenue to offset some of the subscriber loss, until they get their own app up and running.
A majority of NBA and NHL teams play their local market games on Sinclair owned Channels. Those two sports seasons are in full swing, and, no deals.
You could theorize that perhaps Sinclair could make a deal with some places for MLB season. In my opinion, it would be similar to Lucy, Charlie Brown, and a football.
AT&T TV is not bad. It costs more with far less channels than YTTV. User experience is not as good, less recording space etc...but it is good enough, and, at least in my trials, the internet connection has been better.
1) You stay put. And, you may or may not miss all of NBA, NHL, MLB local market seasons.
2) You switch to a current provider until Sinclair releases its new stand alone app. Again, this is not expected until later in the year.
Even though streaming is popular and on the rise in big percentages, many local markets are still for now Satellite and Cable driven.
I would do a free trial of AT&T TV for 7 days while still keeping YTTV. Watch most things on AT&T TV during the trial.
Are you willing to pay $15-20 more per month, lose some channels that you may or may not care about, to get what you want.
Long term, my preference is YTTV and a new Sinclair add on app. Short term you can go with AT&T TV, which is month to month and easy add drop as is YTTV. It may be a stop gap fix for you before going back to YTTV.
I have ESPN+ and I appreciate the low cost, quantity of live games of sports and teams I enjoy, as an add on channel. (It is not a stand alone channel as you must have an ESPN subscription) If the new thing is similar, that would be helpful and an easy add for me. I do not have any confidence in Sinclair. None.
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I believe you can have ESPN+ without an ESPN subscription. You would only get items on ESPN+ only. Not even ESPN3.
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Man, what a frustrating way to try to watch sports. I can't imagine MLB (or NBA, NHL) are thrilled that this is how their product is being distributed. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out in the long run, and if the sports leagues do more to distribute their games themselves somehow.
Side thought... I wonder if radio stations that broadcast MLB games will see a windfall in ad revenue due to more people listening to games on the radio.
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Man, what a frustrating way to try to watch sports. I can't imagine MLB (or NBA, NHL) are thrilled that this is how their product is being distributed. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out in the long run, and if the sports leagues do more to distribute their games themselves somehow.
Side thought... I wonder if radio stations that broadcast MLB games will see a windfall in ad revenue due to more people listening to games on the radio.
I don't think people will go back to radio. I think people will skip it entirely. We have seen that this year.
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I believe you can have ESPN+ without an ESPN subscription. You would only get items on ESPN+ only. Not even ESPN3.
To clarify, what I meant was, if you subscribe to ESPN+, is does not include the television ESPN channels. If you already have a subscription to regular ESPN Channels those channels are viewable on the ESPN app which includes ESPN+.
A recent trend for ESPN is to move more writing and talk content to ESPN+. I don't watch or listen to sports talk but I may read a Wright Thompson etc on the app.
(I watch a lot of Men's and Women's College Soccer, Baseball, Softball, basketball, football, etc...on ESPN+, lots of games.) It also allows for specific Grand Slam tennis viewing, matchups, courts etc...I get a lot of value out of ESPN+, professional soccer, etc...other.
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I don't think people will go back to radio. I think people will skip it entirely. We have seen that this year.
I quit listening years ago despite being a huge baseball fan. On his talk show on WTMJ, Michael Savage called for all gays to be executed. I emailed the station and received a boilerplate response. I never listened again.
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I don't think people will go back to radio. I think people will skip it entirely. We have seen that this year.
You're probably right. In which case sports teams/leagues are in for a world of hurt in the next round of TV negotiations.
I do wonder if this is different though. Many people made the choice not to tune in to sports during the pandemic. But in this case the ability to watch MLB (or NBA, NHL) is being taken away from people who want to watch the games. So, unless these people switch TV providers, they will have to settle for radio (or illegal streams).
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I'm using a friends login for FS Go to watch the Bucks. It's not the best, but not bad enough to get me to pay $20+ more per month with ATT.
Seeing that Fubo is going to be adding a $5 RSN fee, I wonder if that's the way forward.
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Side thought... I wonder if radio stations that broadcast MLB games will see a windfall in ad revenue due to more people listening to games on the radio.
MLB should be fine. They've had mlb.tv access to all "out of market" games for years (easy to defeat the "out of market" part). And for $130 for all teams for the whole season - best value in sports streaming!
https://www.mlb.com/live-stream-games/subscribe
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Sinclair will NOT have a direct to consumer app for Fox Sports Regionals, Tennis Channel etc...in 2021. It will be 2022 at the earliest.
Source is Chris Ripley, Sinclair President and CEO.
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Man, what a frustrating way to try to watch sports. I can't imagine MLB (or NBA, NHL) are thrilled that this is how their product is being distributed. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out in the long run, and if the sports leagues do more to distribute their games themselves somehow.
Side thought... I wonder if radio stations that broadcast MLB games will see a windfall in ad revenue due to more people listening to games on the radio.
MLB TV is already a thing.
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The recent agreement is between the Brewers and Sinclair to continue airing Brewers game on the Fox Sports Regional (Wisconsin) which is being rebranded to Bally's Sports Wisconsin.
Later this year, Sinclair will release its own direct to consumer app/stream, but, it is not expected until later in the year.
If you stream the only place to get it is AT&T TV. ($80-$85 package)
Otherwise, DirecTV owned by AT&T, and, some cable outlets have it.
I would not be surprised if there were no new deals until Sinclair releases their own product.
Quick bump here for the first day of spring training games. Does a subscription for a streaming service that includes FS1 (I'm looking at sling orange+blue) then allow you access to your local Fox Sports Regional by signing into the FSGo app? So if I sign up for Sling that includes FS1, can I login to FSGo and watch Brewers games that way if I'm in the FSWI footprint? Sorry if this has been covered in this thread already.
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Quick bump here for the first day of spring training games. Does a subscription for a streaming service that includes FS1 (I'm looking at sling orange+blue) then allow you access to your local Fox Sports Regional by signing into the FSGo app? So if I sign up for Sling that includes FS1, can I login to FSGo and watch Brewers games that way if I'm in the FSWI footprint? Sorry if this has been covered in this thread already.
No.
A few people have suggested MLB.TV as an option. It of course is more expensive than regular monthly tv viewing, and it doesn't solve the other sports besides baseball problem with Sinclair. (I have had MLB Extra Innings in the past with my television provider, which is a similar price as MLB.TV)
You can try a free 7 day trial to MLB.TV to see if you like it/want to pay for it. Best value is entire season price.
I don't have any confidence that Sinclair will reach deals with others before releasing its own app next year, although it could happen. And it is unknown when the 2022 Sinclair app will be available, cost, quality, etc...
Your only streaming package option right now is switching to AT&T TV. Otherwise you would need to do MLB.TV
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No.
A few people have suggested MLB.TV as an option. It of course is more expensive than regular monthly tv viewing, and it doesn't solve the other sports besides baseball problem with Sinclair. (I have had MLB Extra Innings in the past with my television provider, which is a similar price as MLB.TV)
You can try a free 7 day trial to MLB.TV to see if you like it/want to pay for it. Best value is entire season price.
I don't have any confidence that Sinclair will reach deals with others before releasing its own app next year, although it could happen. And it is unknown when the 2022 Sinclair app will be available, cost, quality, etc...
Your only streaming package option right now is switching to AT&T TV. Otherwise you would need to do MLB.TV
Thanks a ton for the great summary. I'm starting to see why everyone is getting frustrated with the regionals.
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Also, have there blackout issues with MLB.TV? I subcribed for a half season a couple years ago and I think I remember bumping into blackout problems both for the local team that also broadcasted through a Fox Sports regional and for the national broadcasts. I'd just hate to pony up for MLB.TV only to have more than half the games i want to watch blacked out.
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Also, have there blackout issues with MLB.TV? I subcribed for a half season a couple years ago and I think I remember bumping into blackout problems both for the local team that also broadcasted through a Fox Sports regional and for the national broadcasts. I'd just hate to pony up for MLB.TV only to have more than half the games i want to watch blacked out.
You'd have to go through a VPN to get local games.
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No.
A few people have suggested MLB.TV as an option. It of course is more expensive than regular monthly tv viewing, and it doesn't solve the other sports besides baseball problem with Sinclair. (I have had MLB Extra Innings in the past with my television provider, which is a similar price as MLB.TV)
You can try a free 7 day trial to MLB.TV to see if you like it/want to pay for it. Best value is entire season price.
I don't have any confidence that Sinclair will reach deals with others before releasing its own app next year, although it could happen. And it is unknown when the 2022 Sinclair app will be available, cost, quality, etc...
Your only streaming package option right now is switching to AT&T TV. Otherwise you would need to do MLB.TV
Here where I live in New Jersey for DirecTV the Islanders, Rangers, Devils, Knicks and Nets are my home teams, but for baseball and football its Phillies and Eagles. Go figure. All Phillies home games are blacked out on Extra Innings so if the Yanks or Mets play in Philly I'm out of luck, unless they're on FOX or ESPN. NFL Sunday Ticket also sucks because if your local station is carrying the game it is blacked out the Sunday Ticket channel. The local Philly channel will carry quite a few Giants games. On several occasions the Giant game would run past the start of the Eagle game so I would miss the end of the game.
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I have Hulu Live, and MLB.TV. Does this mean I have to figure out what a VPN is- then change it- in order to watch the Cubs game on Herr Ricketts’ crappy network in the Chicagoland area?
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You'd have to go through a VPN to get local games.
Ugghhhhhh. Thanks for the responses here everyone. I'm seeing how we got to a 20 page thread on trying to piece together cord cutting solutions that work. To get the major sports channels plus Brewers games in market, I'm looking at:
Sling + MLB.TV + VPN - or - cable. It was enough to make me say "fine screw it I'll just get the damn cable" but then when I tried to just buy it in defeat, they make it unbearably difficult and unintuitive. So I gave up on that too and am now tempted to pay more for the Sling/MLB.TV/VPN option just to not have to deal with a cable company. At least spurning the cable company feels like another small cut leading to their eventual demise, which is a small moral victory I suppose.
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I have Hulu Live, and MLB.TV. Does this mean I have to figure out what a VPN is- then change it- in order to watch the Cubs game on Herr Ricketts’ crappy network in the Chicagoland area?
Quoting so this doesn't get buried on the previous page.
I think so? It seems MLB.TV only gets you games outside your regional sports network. So you have to get a VPN to trick your MLB.TV stream to think you're somewhere else. What a clusterf*ck.
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Does cable even solve the issue? I thought Fox Regionals weren’t on all cable providers at the moment.
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Quoting so this doesn't get buried on the previous page.
I think so? It seems MLB.TV only gets you games outside your regional sports network. So you have to get a VPN to trick your MLB.TV stream to think you're somewhere else. What a clusterf*ck.
Thanks. Woof; I’m just trying to remain a MLB fan.
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Quick bump here for the first day of spring training games. Does a subscription for a streaming service that includes FS1 (I'm looking at sling orange+blue) then allow you access to your local Fox Sports Regional by signing into the FSGo app? So if I sign up for Sling that includes FS1, can I login to FSGo and watch Brewers games that way if I'm in the FSWI footprint? Sorry if this has been covered in this thread already.
As Shoothoops said, you can not.
Different networks are FS1/FS2/BTN and FS Wisconsin. Soon to be Balley Sports Wisconsin.
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YouTube TV has added MLB.TV to its Live TV lineup. Now, YouTube TV subscribers can choose the MLB.TV add-on to get Live streaming access to all regular season out-of-market games.
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Thanks. Woof; I’m just trying to remain a MLB fan.
You’d think the League would be concerned with the amount of in-market fans that won’t be easily able to watch games this season.
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You’d think the League would be concerned with the amount of in-market fans that won’t be easily able to watch games this season.
Same thing I wondered. I think if people are not able to watch their team, they will be much less invested in them and thus, less likely to attend games (when that is allowed).
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Same thing I wondered. I think if people are not able to watch their team, they will be much less invested in them and thus, less likely to attend games (when that is allowed).
Not a real good time for franchises to be disconnecting from fans.
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You’d think the League would be concerned with the amount of in-market fans that won’t be easily able to watch games this season.
Yep. The easiest solution here really seems to be for MLB.TV to have an optional home-team premium charge, where they charge a premium that it then sends back to each regional sports network based on the territory of the subscriber. If those revenue streams are so important to the teams, MLB should be willing to do a little legwork to keep them intact while not allowing them to prevent fans from you know, watching the goddamn games. I'd be willing to pay it just to avoid dealing with all this other crap.
Pretty sure that's what ATT&T does - they charge an $8.49/month regional sports network premium. MLB.TV should give you the option to pay an extra $25 or whatever for the season long package and then just pay $25 back to each regional network to avoid blackouts. If ATT&T can figure it out, I don't know why MLB can't - ATT&T doesn't even have a horse in the race.
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YouTube TV has added MLB.TV to its Live TV lineup. Now, YouTube TV subscribers can choose the MLB.TV add-on to get Live streaming access to all regular season out-of-market games.
That doesn't help for in market games though. Right?
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That doesn't help for in market games though. Right?
Correct.
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VPN isn't all that difficult guys. In fact, it's a pretty good security measure if you ever use "public wifi". You should never use those or hotel wifi without some sort of VPN. Just sayin...
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YouTube TV has added MLB.TV to its Live TV lineup. Now, YouTube TV subscribers can choose the MLB.TV add-on to get Live streaming access to all regular season out-of-market games.
8-)
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Does cable even solve the issue? I thought Fox Regionals weren’t on all cable providers at the moment.
I have Optimum Cable TV.
I can watch YES Network on FOX Sports GO with free access due to my Optimum subscription.
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VPNs .. are hit and miss though. Obviously, some do work .. but I've tried a variety (mostly for my Arby's dark web sites) and YoutubeTV, Hulu, Netflix usually detect the VPN and stop service.
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Sorry I'm such a rube with more questions. I honestly gave these a quick google but reached that tipping point where if anyone has quick answers, its probably more efficient than me spending more time trying to blindly figure these out:
Are VPNs per device, or do I get login credentials that I can use across devices?
Are all devices VPN compatible? I'm sure its pretty inuitive to set up a VPN on a computer, but say (hypothetically) a frustrated gentleman wanted to stream MLB.TV though his Samsung smart TV to get local games otherwise only available with a cable subscription. Is there a way to run the TV's internet access through the VPN?
Any recs for VPNs that folks have tried and liked? In particular and in light of Topper's comment, anyone ever used one with MLB.TV?
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Sorry I'm such a rube with more questions. I honestly gave these a quick google but reached that tipping point where if anyone has quick answers, its probably more efficient than me spending more time trying to blindly figure these out:
Are VPNs per device, or do I get login credentials that I can use across devices?
Are all devices VPN compatible? I'm sure its pretty inuitive to set up a VPN on a computer, but say (hypothetically) a frustrated gentleman wanted to stream MLB.TV though his Samsung smart TV to get local games otherwise only available with a cable subscription. Is there a way to run the TV's internet access through the VPN?
Any recs for VPNs that folks have tried and liked? In particular and in light of Topper's comment, anyone ever used one with MLB.TV?
https://nordvpn.com/blog/setup-vpn-router/
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YouTube TV added seven more channels to its lineup, finally bringing viewers the rest of the ViacomCBS channels promised last summer. The new channels added are BET Her, Dabl, MTV2, MTV Classic, Nick Jr, NickToons, and Teen Nick.
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YouTube TV added seven more channels to its lineup, finally bringing viewers the rest of the ViacomCBS channels promised last summer. The new channels added are BET Her, Dabl, MTV2, MTV Classic, Nick Jr, NickToons, and Teen Nick.
What are seven channels I will probably never watch, Alex?
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What are seven channels I will probably never watch, Alex?
Correct. I watch a bit of MTV Classic this morning. Back to the 90's brought back some thoughts. ;)
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https://www.nexttv.com/news/sinclair-targets-2022-launch-of-dtc-streaming-version-of-bally-sports-rsns
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VPN isn't all that difficult guys. In fact, it's a pretty good security measure if you ever use "public wifi". You should never use those or hotel wifi without some sort of VPN. Just sayin...
Not difficult, but can definitely hinder performance, which is an issue for HD streaming.
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https://www.nexttv.com/news/sinclair-targets-2022-launch-of-dtc-streaming-version-of-bally-sports-rsns
Nothing new here unfortunately.
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https://www.nexttv.com/news/sinclair-targets-2022-launch-of-dtc-streaming-version-of-bally-sports-rsns
Soon everyone will have their own platform..
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Sinclair Aiming for $23/Month Streaming Plan for Bally Sports in 2022
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Sinclair Aiming for $23/Month Streaming Plan for Bally Sports in 2022
I do miss watching Brewers games but not enough to pay that much a month to watch them.
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Sinclair Aiming for $23/Month Streaming Plan for Bally Sports in 2022
In future news Sinclair is toast.
That's outrageous. They're not gonna get enough subscribers at that price point.
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I do miss watching Brewers games but not enough to pay that much a month to watch them.
I just set up my Hulu to notify me when any games are on. I'll take Uek and whatever espn+ scraps there are.
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In future news Sinclair is toast.
That's outrageous. They're not gonna get enough subscribers at that price point.
Sinclair is definitely not toast.
Furthermore, they are not reliant on monthly subscriptions. That is just added revenue.
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Sinclair is using gambling revenue to offset subscriber losses.
Dish rolled the dice two tears ago thinking the majority of its customers would not switch elsewhere after losing Sinclair channels. They were largely correct despite some movement. (I was included in that movement) There are still many Dish subscribers two years later, unhappy with lack of deal with Sinclair but still with Dish.
Will see how Sinclair does if that is their price point. They will get some takers but I can’t imagine a high volume. but the price point will offset that. It just means less and less people will have Sinclair channels but as long as the money works good enough for them they won’t care.
There are lot of consumers out there used to the $5/mo easy add drop ESPN app that has tons of games and content. They won’t get that crowd with that type of price point.
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I'll keep my MLB tv subscription for $100 a year for all teams and a vpn. Thanks though Bally.
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Any YTTV people still left? If they can't cut a deal with NBCU, I'll likely be canceling. Any recommendations on other streaming providers? I'd consider cable again, but the extra $40/month in broadcast surcharges and equipment fees is a non-starter.
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Just cut the cord. Went with AT&T's 50 Mpbs plan because Fiber isn't available and with Spectrum we had the 200 Mbps in theory, but when I did speed tests we were at 30 Mbps during peak hours and 45-55 during non-peak, so the consistent dedicated line seemed better.
Using Hulu+, added HBOMax and Showtime, along with the Disney+, Netflix, and Prime we already had. Now just hoping we get all the Marquette games.
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Any YTTV people still left? If they can't cut a deal with NBCU, I'll likely be canceling. Any recommendations on other streaming providers? I'd consider cable again, but the extra $40/month in broadcast surcharges and equipment fees is a non-starter.
Yes. YTTV did say they’d cut they the monthly price by $10 if they don’t renew with NBCU
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Yes. YTTV did say they’d cut they the monthly price by $10 if they don’t renew with NBCU
Hah, yeah, I love YTTVs response. In fact, it seems it'd be a savings if they didn't get the channels back - AND you subscribed to peacock.
https://techcrunch.com/2021/09/27/youtube-tv-may-drop-14-nbc-universal-channels-over-a-contract-dispute/
YouTube is saying that it will only renew “if NBCU offers us equitable terms” and said it would drop monthly prices by $10 from $64.99 to $54.99 while the channels are off the platform. It even encouraged users to sign up for NBC’s Peacock streaming service for $4.99 per month in order to retain NBCU content.
I just use YTTV during MU hoops season, and I don't see any reason they won't still be the best option for watching Marquette games.
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Any YTTV people still left? If they can't cut a deal with NBCU, I'll likely be canceling. Any recommendations on other streaming providers? I'd consider cable again, but the extra $40/month in broadcast surcharges and equipment fees is a non-starter.
I'm in the same boat with YTTV. It's extremely frustrating that such a good product is undercut by these constant battles with content providers. First baseball (Sinclair), now soccer (NBCU). Once I can no longer watch soccer, I will probably cancel the service until MUBB is back. Then cancel after the MUBB season.
Does anyone know how premier league games will be handled on Peacock? From what I can tell, some games will be live, but most games won't be. Than games that aren't live will be available on demand at 9pm ET on the day of the game. Is that right? Unbelievably annoying.
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Does anyone know how premier league games will be handled on Peacock? From what I can tell, some games will be live, but most games won't be. Than games that aren't live will be available on demand at 9pm ET on the day of the game. Is that right? Unbelievably annoying.
I believe if it's carried on USA/NBCSN you'll have to login with TV provider credentials on the NBC Sports app.
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Any YTTV people still left? If they can't cut a deal with NBCU, I'll likely be canceling. Any recommendations on other streaming providers? I'd consider cable again, but the extra $40/month in broadcast surcharges and equipment fees is a non-starter.
I uncut the cord this spring. Comcast bundle was cheaper than YTTV+RCN after the $15/mo increase for Viacom (or any other stream that fit what I was looking for.)
YTTV interface was better, but overall I'm fine with it.
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I'm on YTTV. While I watch an NBC channel, if they dropped the NBCUs and the monthly price dropped by $10 and Peacock is $5, then I net $5 savings.
I'm fine with that. I'll endure some inconvenience for YT to fight NBC and their increases.
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Any YTTV people still left? If they can't cut a deal with NBCU, I'll likely be canceling. Any recommendations on other streaming providers? I'd consider cable again, but the extra $40/month in broadcast surcharges and equipment fees is a non-starter.
I have YTTV. I was hoping that NBCU would be gone. Was looking forward to saving $10 per month.
YouTube TV and NBCUniversal have agreed to a “short” extension over the streaming service carrying several of the broadcaster’s channels. That means that at least for now, YouTube TV will continue to carry more than a dozen major NBCUniversal-owned channels, including NBC regional sports networks.
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^^^ thank goodness. I was worried I’d have to watch Below Deck at my gf’s house instead of all alone in secrecy. #Bravo
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“ We’re thrilled to share that we’ve reached a deal with NBCUniversal to continue carrying the full NBCUniversal portfolio of channels, including their Regional Sports Networks and your local NBC station. That means you won’t lose access to any of their channels, and YouTube TV will continue to offer 85+ networks for $64.99* per month.
We appreciate NBCUniversal’s willingness to work toward an agreement, and we also appreciate your patience while we negotiated with them on your behalf. Thanks again for being a YouTube TV member.
Sincerely,
The YouTube TV team”
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^^^ thank goodness. I was worried I’d have to watch Below Deck at my gf’s house instead of all alone in secrecy. #Bravo
it's been a decent season with capt Sandy. Million dollar listing LA is my jam though. Glad they struck a deal
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Earlier this week at a Sports Conference, MLB Commissioner said Sinclair lacked enough digital rights from its 21 teams to have a feasible direct to consumer product. He also said Sinclair lacked the gambling rights too. I know that Sinclair has some contracts with some teams that go another dozen years.
https://twitter.com/Ourand_SBJ/status/1448017642032451585?t=5D5LwRGuzZ3h7NIXT1thCg&s=19
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Earlier this week at a Sports Conference, MLB Commissioner said Sinclair lacked enough digital rights from its 21 teams to have a feasible direct to consumer product. He also said Sinclair lacked the gambling rights too. I know that Sinclair has some contracts with some teams that go another dozen years.
https://twitter.com/Ourand_SBJ/status/1448017642032451585?t=5D5LwRGuzZ3h7NIXT1thCg&s=19
What's your take on what that means long term? Would MLB find a way to push Sinclair out as a broadcaster?
I can't remember where I saw it, but I think someone floated the rumor that MLB is looking into making their own streaming app with in-market games available. I would assume the rumored app and the issues with Sinclair are related.
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What's your take on what that means long term? Would MLB find a way to push Sinclair out as a broadcaster?
I can't remember where I saw it, but I think someone floated the rumor that MLB is looking into making their own streaming app with in-market games available. I would assume the rumored app and the issues with Sinclair are related.
I don’t know how it will work because I know with some teams, Sinclair has another dozen years left on their local contract. Sinclair has the rights to 21 teams broadcasts. (They also have many rights to NHL, NBA, and Tennis Channel) They have been the preferred partner. However obviously there is recognized frustration from MLB with Sinclair on a variety of fronts. They are publicly acknowledging for the first time the MLB/fan frustration with Sinclair.
Manfred was tired of Sinclair overpromising their direct to consumer app as well as their gambling, to go along with their subscriber decrease etc…saying they lacked those rights often times, and he was clearly saying he wants MLB to have as many digital rights as possible to have control of their product. Maybe Sinclair will be a partner with that and maybe not. He alluded to opening it up to different potential partners for that. Obviously a dream scenario for consumers would be distancing from Sinclair altogether across the board.
It’s difficult to get some streaming numbers. Example: For the 3rd time in 4 years the Cardinals had the highest rated local market MLB ratings. (top 4 for 22 straight seasons). Their games (149) were seen in 6.2% of homes with a tv. That number is down from 10% just 5 years ago. They were the highest rating local primetime show 74% of the time. (These are Nielsen numbers) It is said that people without access to Sinclair made up about 10% of the local market. That seems like a low number to me. Maybe it’s not.
I cut the cord a few years back and I felt that I was “slow” to do so. There must still be a lot of cable/satellite subscribers out there. Non-sports fans have always outnumbered sports fans. For now and for the foreseeable future going into next year, it would appear to be DirecTV stream only for streamers, and cable/DirecTV for non cord cutters. (unless I am forgetting others)
It would be interesting to hear from NHL and NBA as well.
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So, what's everybody's backup plan for YTTV losing ESPN? I've got a xfinity login I can use in the meantime, and I guess it's fortunate this happened after MU's non-conference. Still, the ESPN networks often carry games that I like to watch.
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Pay da bread, hey?
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So, what's everybody's backup plan for YTTV losing ESPN? I've got a xfinity login I can use in the meantime, and I guess it's fortunate this happened after MU's non-conference. Still, the ESPN networks often carry games that I like to watch.
Debating between buying the Disney+, espn+, and Hulu package. Or going to Hulu live. This one hurts youtube
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The only channel I'll miss is my local ABC channel. That sucks, but the extra $15 a month will help me get over it.
Fight the power, YouTubeTV.
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Debating between buying the Disney+, espn+, and Hulu package. Or going to Hulu live. This one hurts youtube
I have the bundle now but sincce it doesn't include Hulu Live I'm still out of luck for ESPN channels since we have YTTV for our main TV subscription. I still have to figure out what we're going to do but I watch a lot of ESPN networks so I need to find an alternative soon.
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I got HULU for 99 cents a month on Black Friday.
And I am one of those Luddites who still have cable, but at least I don't have the sturm and drang every time that something I want to watch something that I am not signed up to stream.
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Did the free trial on Fubo TV, picture is not sharp on many networks. Keeping YTTV. Got my neighbors log in for the ESPN App.
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ESPN is back.
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Nice!
Email went out with details.
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ESPN is back.
I was quite excited when I got the email about that this afternoon :)
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I was quite excited when I got the email about that this afternoon :)
Yeah. I didn't want to have to change again.
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Not surprised if got done so quickly, the steaming services are way to easy to cancel. The $15 credit we’re still getting though makes me think rates will be going up soon.
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Yeah. I didn't want to have to change again.
Neither did I and the other options weren't the greatest. I was pleasantly surprised they reached the deal so quickly.
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Not surprised if got done so quickly, the steaming services are way to easy to cancel. The $15 credit we’re still getting though makes me think rates will be going up soon.
Or Disney realized on Sat how much viewership (ad money!) they lost with YTTV. Probably a little bit of both sides compromising. Was surprised they honored the entire $15 for 1.5 days lost. No doubt rates will rise sometime next year (probably while I'm not a subscriber in the summer).
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Neither did I and the other options weren't the greatest. I was pleasantly surprised they reached the deal so quickly.
I did the free trail of Fubo TV on Saturday. I wanted to make it work. The picture was poor. Not sharp on FOX, CBS, FS2. BTN. I was done! Can't pay more than YTTV and have a picture not as good. I guess you can use your log in for ESPN/FOX App, yet what's the point of that. Just get Sling TV if doing that.
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Alright. I’m trying YTTV.
What’s the deal with not being able to fast forward. On the last couple “recorded” shows I’ve tried there is commercials that are fixed.
I think that’s going to be a deal killer.
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Alright. I’m trying YTTV.
What’s the deal with not being able to fast forward. On the last couple “recorded” shows I’ve tried there is commercials that are fixed.
I think that’s going to be a deal killer.
If they’re recorded shows in your library, you can fast forward. If you’re watching on-demand they commercials are in there.
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Alright. I’m trying YTTV.
What’s the deal with not being able to fast forward. On the last couple “recorded” shows I’ve tried there is commercials that are fixed.
I think that’s going to be a deal killer.
Your watching an on demand version of a show you added to your library. That particular episode has not yet been recorded by your yttv.
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In addition to the replies already, if you know it has been recorded, when browsing your library, you may need to look for the button below the episode that says "Choose a version" to selected a recorded one vs VOD.
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If I get Hulu + Live Tv, will I be able to get ACC Network Extra as part of ACC Network?
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If I get Hulu + Live Tv, will I be able to get ACC Network Extra as part of ACC Network?
Herman.looks like the ACC network is included on Hulu. It's labeled as ACC ESPN.
For example there is ACC field hockey listed in upcoming programming.
Hope that helps. Your kids are in Olympic sports, right?
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Biggest YTTV gripe is the pause screen never goes away. I need to pause and take a picture.
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Herman.looks like the ACC network is included on Hulu. It's labeled as ACC ESPN.
For example there is ACC field hockey listed in upcoming programming.
Hope that helps. Your kids are in Olympic sports, right?
Thanks Ziggy that helps . Getting this for the Missus for Christmas so we can watch the Kids
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Biggest YTTV gripe is the pause screen never goes away. I need to pause and take a picture.
When you pause it, you can back out of that listing on the bottom to take a picture.
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Biggest YTTV gripe is the pause screen never goes away. I need to pause and take a picture.
At least on my PC, if I pause, and then switch broswer tabs the bottom clutter goes away.
But also, on PC you can rewind, click the gear icon, and play back at 1/4 speed - which can be handy. (though more handy, is watching a recorded game at 1.5 speed - talk about pure action!)
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At least on my PC, if I pause, and then switch broswer tabs the bottom clutter goes away.
But also, on PC you can rewind, click the gear icon, and play back at 1/4 speed - which can be handy. (though more handy, is watching a recorded game at 1.5 speed - talk about pure action!)
My favorite Chrome extension is Video Speed Controller.
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/video-speed-controller/nffaoalbilbmmfgbnbgppjihopabppdk
Yeah, many video players let you speed up video, but this extension lets you do it with keyboard shortcuts, so you can quickly get up to speed or back down. -- One even better part is the X and Z keys, which jump ahead or back 10 seconds. Miss a play? Z. Want to skip commercials? X-X-X. Works for a ton of ads, Youtube or YTTV, CNN, whatever.
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Does anyone that has the YTTV 4k upgrade see the Olympics coverage as being in 4k but when you actually watch it 4k isn’t available?
Edit: so I actually found the 4k channel but tonight’s prime time won’t be available in 4k until 2AM which is pretty weak
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Major drama in the lawdog household today. We have DISH and the kids woke up to no Disney, NAt Geo etc due to contract negotiations. No ESPN either, thank goodness its not college basketball season.
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F ESPN.
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F ESPN.
Agreed. The only time I watch ESPN is when a college basketball game is on
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Folks should look into TMobile home internet (you don’t need to have their cell service).
I’m averaging 150mps, $50/month no hidden fees. Coupled that with YT TV for $65, $115 a month all in is a great deal.
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Folks should look into TMobile home internet (you don’t need to have their cell service).
I’m averaging 150mps, $50/month no hidden fees. Coupled that with YT TV for $65, $115 a month all in is a great deal.
I got Verizon home internet. 35 a month and that price is locked in for 3 years
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I tried Verizon internet.
Couldn't get the box to connect.
But I am in a pretty rural area with only a single bar on my phone.
Went back to Spectrum.
How is Verizon internet working for you?
Streaming good?
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I tried Verizon internet.
Couldn't get the box to connect.
But I am in a pretty rural area with only a single bar on my phone.
Went back to Spectrum.
How is Verizon internet working for you?
Streaming good?
Zero complaints. Streaming works great. Haven't tried gaming on it yet. I live in a very densely populated area so definitely a different situation
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I see that Bally Sports finally has a way to subscribe to it individually for streaming. Happily, I'll get to watch Cavs games this year. The price -- $20/month -- is a little steep, but I'll probably pay during the NBA season.
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I see that Bally Sports finally has a way to subscribe to it individually for streaming. Happily, I'll get to watch Cavs games this year. The price -- $20/month -- is a little steep, but I'll probably pay during the NBA season.
You get more than a 20% discount if you purchase the service for a full year vs. monthly
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I see that Bally Sports finally has a way to subscribe to it individually for streaming. Happily, I'll get to watch Cavs games this year. The price -- $20/month -- is a little steep, but I'll probably pay during the NBA season.
Not if you use a Roku.
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You get more than a 20% discount if you purchase the service for a full year vs. monthly
I might do that. I'll take a look during a seven-day free trial to see what they've got and whether I will want to have it when the NBA season is over. If not, it'll still be cheaper to buy only the months that I want.
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Not if you use a Roku.
I know they were late getting it to Roku, but it's my understanding that it is now available (https://www.ballysports.com/national/news/bally-sports-expands-distribution-with-the-addition-of-the-roku-platform).
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I know they were late getting it to Roku, but it's my understanding that it is now available (https://www.ballysports.com/national/news/bally-sports-expands-distribution-with-the-addition-of-the-roku-platform).
Yes, Roku is a go. Jokey tends to live in another world.
I’m leaning toward getting the year deal. Wolves & Wild starting up this month… then Twins in the summer.
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Cost depends on the market.
L.A. has two different Ballys Channels, as does Florida.
In L.A. if you want both NHL teams plus the Clippers, you have to pay $6 extra per month. Otherwise you can pay $20 for jjust one combined with Clippers.
If you live in Florida and you want NBA plus MLB etc...you need to add $10 per month. The Heat and Marlins for example are on two different Ballys channels. If you pay the $10 extra you also get the Tamps Ballys teams etc...otherwise you can pick one channel for $20.
Ballys stream still lacks the rights for many MLB Ballys teams.
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Ballys stream still lacks the rights for many MLB Ballys teams.
I’m leaning toward getting the year deal. Wolves & Wild starting up this month… then Twins in the summer.
Unfortunately, the MLB teams they currently have rights for is very limited (https://www.ballysports.com/plus/faqs). I'm pretty sure they don't have the Twins at this point. They also don't have the Guardians. If they had the Guardians, the whole year would be a no-brainer for me.
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They do have the Twins here. Otherwise, I’d be leaning toward monthly to get me through the Wolves & Wild… but Twins (and Lynx) are all on it
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They do have the Twins here. Otherwise, I’d be leaning toward monthly to get me through the Wolves & Wild… but Twins (and Lynx) are all on it
You may be right, but I've seen several sources -- including Bally Sports+ own FAQ (https://www.ballysports.com/plus/faqs) (see the final question) -- that say they only have streaming rights to five teams: Detroit, Milwaukee, KC, Miami, and TB. Bally Sports and Bally Sports+ are different and have different rights. Bally Sports Ohio (which comes with a variety of cable packages) has the Guardians. Bally Sports+ does not.
This is a useful site (https://getmyhometeams.com/). When I enter my zip code in the space on the main page there, it tells me that they have the Guardians, Cavs, Crew, and Blue Jackets. If I click on the Bally Sports+ link and enter the same zip code, it says only the Cavs, Crew, and Bluejackets. When I do the same with the first Minneapolis zip code I found (55111) I get comparable results with the Twins being unavailable in Bally Sports+ streaming service. Here's an article that seems to confirm that the Twins aren't included...at least for now (https://twinsdaily.com/news-rumors/minnesota-twins/bally-sports-to-launch-september-26-without-twins-for-now-r12883/).
I suppose you could always try a seven day free trial in the next couple days to see if they have the Twins on the Bally Sports+ streaming service.
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My apologies, I read United as Twins. Smh. Ok, maybe monthly it is. Twins and then have been talking for quite awhile - hope it gets done but I guess it’s difficult to trust
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My apologies, I read United as Twins. Smh. Ok, maybe monthly it is. Twins and then have been talking for quite awhile - hope it gets done but I guess it’s difficult to trust
No problem. I had the same issue. Initially, I was 100% planning to subscribe for the entire year, but then realized the Guardians aren't in it. I didn't want you to spend your money if you weren't getting what you thought you were getting. Of course I'm sure what will happen is that they'll add the Guardians right about the time I've already paid 6-8 months.
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My apologies, I read United as Twins. Smh. Ok, maybe monthly it is. Twins and then have been talking for quite awhile - hope it gets done but I guess it’s difficult to trust
SO YOU LIED!?!?!?
(Just giving you crap Jay Bee ;D)
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My apologies, I read United as Twins. Smh. Ok, maybe monthly it is. Twins and then have been talking for quite awhile - hope it gets done but I guess it’s difficult to trust
Then vs. Them
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Then vs. Them
The phone switching words on me gets me a lot.
RealClearPolitics vs. real clear politics
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I know they were late getting it to Roku, but it's my understanding that it is now available (https://www.ballysports.com/national/news/bally-sports-expands-distribution-with-the-addition-of-the-roku-platform).
I did a free7 day trial in August, but it was a no go. Worked fine on my laptop, though.
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I did a free7 day trial in August, but it was a no go. Worked fine on my laptop, though.
That makes sense. Bally has a release dated Sept 26 saying it’s now (finally) available on Roku. Just added a week ago.
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That makes sense. Bally has a release dated Sept 26 saying it’s now (finally) available on Roku. Just added a week ago.
I’ll give it another try once the Bucks season starts.
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https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/35668388/rob-manfred-mlb-ready-diamond-sports-group-pay-teams (https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/35668388/rob-manfred-mlb-ready-diamond-sports-group-pay-teams)
I didn't realize that DSG is going bankrupt. Going to be interesting if/when they can't make the payments to teams and the MLB takes over distribution. Ballys WI is the only reason I have DirecTV Stream, so if MLB takes over Brewers broadcasts and gives me another option, I would probably drop DirecTV.
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I see Youtube has exclusive rights to Sunday Ticket. It could be the demise of DirecTV's satellite service as they switch to streaming.
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YouTube TV raising its monthly fee $8.
Ouch.
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Ditched cable last fall and love it.
We have five TVs in the house, only one of which is a "smart" TV, so Roku sticks work well. And, the best part is, no wiring needs.
Have YouTube TV and love it. Miss out on almost nothing. Watched every Warriors game this year,
Also get the NBC5 Chicago news at 5/6 and 10 p.m., so I can stay close to Chicago.
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YouTube TV raising its monthly fee $8.
Ouch.
Not terribly surprising. I'm honestly more surprised it stayed flat for three years.
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YouTube TV raising its monthly fee $8.
Ouch.
They seem to be going down the path of cable bloat thinking they need to offer 100's of channels.
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I remember when YTTV was about $35, 6 years ago. Those were the days.
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I remember when YTTV was about $35, 6 years ago. Those were the days.
6 years ago $35 dollars was like 55 in today's money.
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If they go over $80, it was fun while it lasted. I only really watch sports (EPL mostly and MU bball mostly), South Park, Sister Wives, and 1000 Pound Sisters.
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Selfishly resurrecting this. Anyone have current thoughts on YouTube TV vs Hulu + Live? I’m dumping Spectrum, and I also subscribe to Hulu/Disney+/ESPN+, among others. Anything new and exciting? Any new drawbacks? Seems like price and product are very similar.
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Price not as appealing as it once was, but YTTV still works for me pretty well
four- BOX on games is cool too
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Price not as appealing as it once was, but YTTV still works for me pretty well
four- BOX on games is cool too
How do you handle the internet side of your YTTV? Local company like a Spectrum?
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How do you handle the internet side of your YTTV? Local company like a Spectrum?
Yeah. (MediaCom, plus eero wireless mesh.)
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Selfishly resurrecting this. Anyone have current thoughts on YouTube TV vs Hulu + Live? I’m dumping Spectrum, and I also subscribe to Hulu/Disney+/ESPN+, among others. Anything new and exciting? Any new drawbacks? Seems like price and product are very similar.
YTTV is great for layout, ease of use, etc…unlimited recording. (Most of what I watch is recorded).
The negative. Costs have gone from $35 a month to $82 a month in less than 5 years. (It’s shared among multiple locations which gives it more value).
No Ballys Sports Regionals. No MLB Network. No Tennis Channel. (they do have something called T2. I have TC Plus) They will have many of the others.
They had the rights to NFL Sunday Ticket, and apparently sales were better than expected of that.
YTTV is the closest thing to the former DirecTV/Dish/Cable consumer. Tons of channels. Many you will never watch. Some you might. Something for everyone in your family or group.
Customer service used to be fantastic. Then it was terrible. Now it has improved again but it isn’t like the old days.
Once they decide to stop carrying a sports channel for example, that channel is removed, never to return.
So for me separate deals with regional sports networks for certain pro teams are needed. Or national packages like MLB Dot TV types of things. But I get some of these things included with my cell phone carrier. (T-Mobile) Free Apple sports for MLS. Free MLB Dot TV, etc…also included. You’ll need a separate sports regional app for NHL etc…most of which are bad. I have ESPN plus as well.
I fortunately have a very unique separate deal with cable for internet.
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No Ballys Sports Regionals. No MLB Network. No Tennis Channel. (they do have something called T2. I have TC Plus) They will have many of the others.
I fortunately have a very unique separate deal with cable for internet.
YTTV did get the Tennis Channel back -- it is in the sports add-on. Do you like TC Plus? I have heard horror stories.
One warning about Hulu + Live TV: You cannot FF through commercials on a program that is still airing.
So, if you are recording the Marquette game and planning to start watching 20 minutes after tip-off and FF through commercials until you catch up -- nope, not gonna work. You can FF through the game action, but not the commercials.
This is true even if you have the "no ads" version of Hulu + Live TV. This is making us switch to YTTV.
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YTTV did get the Tennis Channel back -- it is in the sports add-on. Do you like TC Plus? I have heard horror stories.
One warning about Hulu + Live TV: You cannot FF through commercials on a program that is still airing.
So, if you are recording the Marquette game and planning to start watching 20 minutes after tip-off and FF through commercials until you catch up -- nope, not gonna work. You can FF through the game action, but not the commercials.
This is true even if you have the "no ads" version of Hulu + Live TV. This is making us switch to YTTV.
Previously Tennis Channel was included in the main YTTV package. Why would anyone pay $11 month for Tennis Channel, when they can pay $9 a month for TC Plus and have access to all tour events, every court, every match, first ball last ball 12 months a year? And it can often be obtained for much less money than that, 40% to 50% less.
Getting it back but paying $11 a month for it is not getting it back.
Full disclosure: I sometimes get TC Plus for free because I know some of the people there. If they forget to give it to me for free I just pay it on my own some years. And I’ve always gotten a deep discount when doing so. It’s pretty easy to find.
TC Plus has improved their past technical difficulties. It used to be very frustrating and tech support was bad. There is a Senior VP EP there that I don’t like at all. Not a nice person The other nice people are aware of this. Whenever I have a problem I am lucky that I can contact someone there that has a lot of pull and 100% of the time he passes on feedback. Gem of a dude.
Sinclair owns Tennis Channel which is the problem.
I should watch T2 or whatever it is more often on YTTV, but I just go straight to the TC plus app instead. Make sure you check for software updates periodically. But I can honestly say tech issues are rare (knock on wood) and have been rare for at least a year or more.
Some of the TC Plus broadcast analysts are good, like Laura Robson, Lindsay Davenport etc….some less so. But it’s all about the tennis and the ongoing match which I like. It could be two random players and those two players are the focus much of the time. I’m a bit unique in that I can watch sports on mute if I don’t like the broadcasters. I know that isn’t for everyone.
TC has lots of shows and features and has more of a celebrity component to it. Some like that. And in small doses it’s fine. TC Plus is mostly just matches. And all matches are very quickly available on replay and you can fast forward and rewind replay. You can’t live.
Brisbane, United Cup, Auckland etc have all had zero technical issues so far in 2024.
With the 4 majors on ESPN, ESPN plus also uses the world feed so it’s the same broadcasters as TC Plus often. (I’m a big ESPN Plus user.)
I am someone that needs to pick and choose the match I want to watch and I can switch at any time or watch a replay etc…
I record a gazillion things on YTTV, anything I want without hesitation since there are no recording limits. Some I never get to watch some I eventually do. I often won’t watch something live, I’ll just record it so I don’t have to sit through commercials etc…
With YTTV if you record something ahead of time, and you wait an hour to watch a two hour game or program, you can just zip through those commercials. You can pause etc…just make sure it’s set up to record. If you forget to record something and you watch it live but miss the first 20 minutes you can’t go back until it’s over. You can click record 20 minutes into it and go back after the completion of the event or recording and watch the entire event.
In my opinion Tennis Channel needs to have distribution similar to Golf Channel. Not worth an extra tier. Just get TC Plus. Wait for a discount offer. Just watch T2 which is included, until you get the deal or just pay the $109/yr. And yes it’s 12 months newer month to month which I don’t like.
If you have Roku you can set up TC Plus through Roku as an add on. And one year I was having tech issues with TC Plus, I called Roku and they quickly gave me a year of TC Plus free without much discussion. So that is a customer service work around by going through Roku. But I think the price discount offers are direct through TC Plus only.
Hulu: I have T-Mobile and they sent me a recent text saying I can receive Hulu included with my phone plan soon. I’ve never had Hulu. T-Mobile also includes MLB Dot TV (local team blackouts) but every other team/game. They include Netflix, MLS Soccer and some other things to with my plan.
YTTV picked up access to the NFL Sunday Ticket this season and it’s been a big $$$ add on success for them.
YTTV doesn’t negotiate at all with channels like Ballys. They also dropped MLB Network last season and I didn’t realize how many games I watched/missed on there. But again I have the MLB Dot TV. If MLB dropped blackouts on various outlets it would be great. It’s been discussed recently to work towards that.
YTTV is the closest thing to Satellite/Cable in my opinion. (and I had all of them) Been with YTTV for about 6 years. Streaming for 8. It was partial packages like Sling and those types of things until YTTV.
I have also tried Fubo, and D-Stream. (to watch MU I have also had FloSports and occasionally I will add/drop something like a Big 10 plus which is terrible for a game.) Prefer YTTV to all of them but as previously mentioned, cost has gone up a lot and a few channels have been missing. Customer Service is no longer great as it was when they started. It went from 10 out 10 to minimal with pandemic and it’s never come back at a high level since.
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YTTV did get the Tennis Channel back -- it is in the sports add-on. Do you like TC Plus? I have heard horror stories.
One warning about Hulu + Live TV: You cannot FF through commercials on a program that is still airing.
So, if you are recording the Marquette game and planning to start watching 20 minutes after tip-off and FF through commercials until you catch up -- nope, not gonna work. You can FF through the game action, but not the commercials.
This is true even if you have the "no ads" version of Hulu + Live TV. This is making us switch to YTTV.
One more thing I don’t know if it’s the same on other outlets but you can click record all Marquette events or whatever it may be and you never have to hit record again as long as it’s under that category. So it’s not as though you have to frequently remember to record a re-occurring event like that.
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Damn it. YTTV doesn’t have Lifetime. I’m trying to watch that gypsy rose stuff. This is crap!!
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This could be a gamechanger for sports only fans.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/06/espn-fox-and-warner-bros-discovery-to-launch-joint-sports-streaming-platform-this-year.html
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This could be a gamechanger for sports only fans.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/06/espn-fox-and-warner-bros-enco-to-launch-joint-sports-streaming-platform-this-year.html
If it encompasses a majority of all major college and pro sports, plus the basic comedy central, nickelodeon, Disney deal... minus all the awful channels. Then I'm sold.
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Anyone here have ATT fiber? Now in my area - looks to be a lot cheaper than current ATT service.
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Anyone here have ATT fiber? Now in my area - looks to be a lot cheaper than current ATT service.
Yep, love it. Got it in 2020 when it came to my area. We had a promo for the 1 GB service that was way cheaper than Spectrum's 200 MB service. Once that expired I dropped to 500 MB. Have had no real service interruptions in 3.5 years.
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Yep, love it. Got it in 2020 when it came to my area. We had a promo for the 1 GB service that was way cheaper than Spectrum's 200 MB service. Once that expired I dropped to 500 MB. Have had no real service interruptions in 3.5 years.
I did the exact same thing. Promo of 1000/1000 service, then a year later, dropped to 500/500 service, which is WAY more than any household really needs anyhow.
Never had a single internet dropout with AT&T Fiber. Currently paying $60/month.
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Anyone here have ATT fiber? Now in my area - looks to be a lot cheaper than current ATT service.
Made the switch last October. Have had zero complaints
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Capitalist pigs!
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Random question - has anyone here attempted to stream US sporting events in Jamaica? My buddy decided to get married in Jamaica, which will be a nice little getaway, but I will be there S16/E8 weekend. Unfortunately its more of a bed/breakfast type place - not a large all inclusive. Seems like the viewing options within the "resort" might be non-existent, so I might be down to having to attempt to stream the games on a laptop.
I have a silly amount of anxiety that I won't be able to watch the NCAA tournament games, especially if MU is still alive (hope to have this problem!). I've never been to Jamaica - has anyone on Scoop been and attempted to stream US sporting events without a VPN?
Would love any info so I am not in a mad scramble next Thursday (we land early afternoon). Thanks in advance!
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Anyone here have ATT fiber? Now in my area - looks to be a lot cheaper than current ATT service.
We had Comcast for decades until I got fed up with crappy service last year.
We now have AT&T fiber right into our box and love it. No service disruptions, no orbiting circle in the middle of my Marquette game and top quality support.
Worth every nickel of what I pay for it.
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Random question - has anyone here attempted to stream US sporting events in Jamaica? My buddy decided to get married in Jamaica, which will be a nice little getaway, but I will be there S16/E8 weekend. Unfortunately its more of a bed/breakfast type place - not a large all inclusive. Seems like the viewing options within the "resort" might be non-existent, so I might be down to having to attempt to stream the games on a laptop.
I have a silly amount of anxiety that I won't be able to watch the NCAA tournament games, especially if MU is still alive (hope to have this problem!). I've never been to Jamaica - has anyone on Scoop been and attempted to stream US sporting events without a VPN?
Would love any info so I am not in a mad scramble next Thursday (we land early afternoon). Thanks in advance!
I have been to Jamaica many times and will also be there a week from Saturday. No experience using VPNs there as I have always been able to locate a bar that carries most US games be it NFL, NCAA etc.
Not sure about all-inclusives, couldn't have gone as many times as we have that way. I stay in Negril and besides the Margarittaville, many bars in Negril carry US sports.
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I have been to Jamaica many times and will also be there a week from Saturday. No experience using VPNs there as I have always been able to locate a bar that carries most US games be it NFL, NCAA etc.
Not sure about all-inclusives, couldn't have gone as many times as we have that way. I stay in Negril and besides the Margarittaville, many bars in Negril carry US sports.
Really appreciate the response, Spot!
My understanding of the place we're staying is that its a bit remote and that there are not bars within walking distance. Its along the southern coast in the central part of the island. We will not have a car either. Admittedly have done very little research as am "along for the ride" with a group of friend that set it up. I am hoping that worst case scenario my MU wife and I can find a bar in walking distance if we're unable to figure out a way to stream in the game in the b&b were staying, but don't want to rely on that.
Have you tried to stream any games over wifi while there? Just wondering if I am going to get geoblocked when I try to stream on my laptop or a firestick.
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Really appreciate the response, Spot!
My understanding of the place we're staying is that its a bit remote and that there are not bars within walking distance. Its along the southern coast in the central part of the island. We will not have a car either. Admittedly have done very little research as am "along for the ride" with a group of friend that set it up. I am hoping that worst case scenario my MU wife and I can find a bar in walking distance if we're unable to figure out a way to stream in the game in the b&b were staying, but don't want to rely on that.
Have you tried to stream any games over wifi while there? Just wondering if I am going to get geoblocked when I try to stream on my laptop or a firestick.
Walking around inland Jamaica? Consider not doing that.
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Walking around inland Jamaica? Consider not doing that.
I was just gonna post the same thing.
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I was just gonna post the same thing.
Walking around inland Jamaica? Consider not doing that.
Right…which is exactly why I am trying to figure out if these games are going to be stream able. FWIW - it’s on the coast, not inland. But ya…my default position is to not wonder off the property.
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Kinda like wanderin' 'round downtown MKE, aina?
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Kinda like wanderin' 'round downtown MKE, aina?
Or Montana
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Right…which is exactly why I am trying to figure out if these games are going to be stream able. FWIW - it’s on the coast, not inland. But ya…my default position is to not wonder off the property.
In a pinch, the internet is full of wonderful things (https://bestmlb.buffstream.io/ncaam-streams), as long as you use ad-blockers, close all popup windows, and don't click to pay for anything!
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Really appreciate the response, Spot!
My understanding of the place we're staying is that its a bit remote and that there are not bars within walking distance. Its along the southern coast in the central part of the island. We will not have a car either. Admittedly have done very little research as am "along for the ride" with a group of friend that set it up. I am hoping that worst case scenario my MU wife and I can find a bar in walking distance if we're unable to figure out a way to stream in the game in the b&b were staying, but don't want to rely on that.
Have you tried to stream any games over wifi while there? Just wondering if I am going to get geoblocked when I try to stream on my laptop or a firestick.
Can you just sign up for a VPN, think some of the them give a free week or monthly trials.
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Called Spectrum to cancel my TV service since I have YouTube TV now.
I was told that because of the unbundling, the internet portion of my bill would go from $75 to $86.
Or, I could get a free cell phone line (text, talk, and data) for 12 months and my combo cell+internet bill would be $62/month. In other words, they are paying me $24 a month to use their cell service.
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Thanks, Obama.