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GGGG

Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 22, 2018, 05:11:16 AM
speak for yourself-i'm just saying that the false claims ruin the cred of the real claims.  the people who should be mad at those who are trying to lie and cheat the system to further their cause with the false claims are the real victims themselves. 

white males do not claim a "lack of progress"  rather, they claim that real racism is ignored from the other side.  the minorities claim that they cannot be racist because they are in the minority which is wrong.

    you know how all this could be cleaned up?  once again, content of the character-treat well meaning people well. those who abide by the law should have nothing to worry about.  do good things, treat others with respect.  in law enforcement, they are dealing with many criminals who try to ruin it for the others who are trying to live life on life's terms.  the bad people try to force the good ones into their lives of crime, demean those who are doing well in school or are "acting white"  success in their world is to succumb to the white mans world in their minds-that doesn't come from us.  from me anyway.  success should be doing the right thing, the good thing


Man you are just a walking, Fox-bot talking point.

Mr. Nielsen

#301
  ::) Oh, boy.
If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
-Bill Walton

4everwarriors

Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 22, 2018, 05:11:16 AM
speak for yourself-i'm just saying that the false claims ruin the cred of the real claims.  the people who should be mad at those who are trying to lie and cheat the system to further their cause with the false claims are the real victims themselves. 

white males do not claim a "lack of progress"  rather, they claim that real racism is ignored from the other side.  the minorities claim that they cannot be racist because they are in the minority which is wrong.

    you know how all this could be cleaned up?  once again, content of the character-treat well meaning people well. those who abide by the law should have nothing to worry about.  do good things, treat others with respect.  in law enforcement, they are dealing with many criminals who try to ruin it for the others who are trying to live life on life's terms.  the bad people try to force the good ones into their lives of crime, demean those who are doing well in school or are "acting white"  success in their world is to succumb to the white mans world in their minds-that doesn't come from us.  from me anyway.  success should be doing the right thing, the good thing




Solid, simply solid.
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

GGGG


MU82

Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 22, 2018, 05:11:16 AM

    you know how all this could be cleaned up?  once again, content of the character-treat well meaning people well. those who abide by the law should have nothing to worry about.  do good things, treat others with respect.

In other words ... "Lock him up! Lock him up!"?
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Mr. Nielsen

#305
Quote from: #bansultan on May 22, 2018, 09:47:47 AM

Two replies that pretty much validate my thoughts.  Thanks!
;)
If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
-Bill Walton

4everwarriors

Quote from: MU82 on May 22, 2018, 09:57:16 AM
In other words ... "Lock him up! Lock him up!"?


C'mon man. Don't drag Hillary inta dis, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Goose


Babybluejeans

Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 22, 2018, 05:11:16 AM
you know how all this could be cleaned up?  once again, content of the character-treat well meaning people well.

You realize the whole point of racial discrimination is that people specifically ignore the content of one's character, or make judgments about the content of one's character based on their being black or brown?

Do you really think that slavery and, more currently, Jim Crow are irrelevant now - even though there are generations of people still alive that lived through it (including, possibly, you)? Do you really think those underlying beliefs and institutions don't still exist in American society? And do you really think that, if they do exist, that fact is neither important nor relevant?

Those are not rhetorical questions. I'm genuinely curious, since you seem awfully eager to ignore the reality of the past and present.

Pakuni

Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 22, 2018, 05:11:16 AM
    you know how all this could be cleaned up?  once again, content of the character

It never ceases to amaze how many people quote only this part of that speech while being entirely ignorant of - or worse yet, willfully ignoring - nearly everything else King said that day.



mu03eng



Guys, we should all be proud we made it this far....good luck in the next thread.

"A Plan? Oh man, I hate plans. That means were gonna have to do stuff. Can't we just have a strategy......or a mission statement."

JWags85

I'll never understand how progress is used to discourage further action and write off things as fixed.  People are always quick and eager to point out how slavery was 150 years ago and how much better things are since, say, the 1960s, as if everything should have worked itself out by now.  And any evidence to the contrary is chalked up as everyone should accept more personal responsibility for their station in life.

Its like a cancer patient being treated and after a few rounds of chemo, some of the cancer is receding, improvements are made and instead of continuing treatment, the doctor being like "well, you're no longer cancer ridden, you're basically healthy" and telling the patient its on them to fully beat the cancer and then stay healthy like any non-cancer patient.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: Babybluejeans on May 22, 2018, 11:24:50 AM
You realize the whole point of racial discrimination is that people specifically ignore the content of one's character, or make judgments about the content of one's character based on their being black or brown?

Do you really think that slavery and, more currently, Jim Crow are irrelevant now - even though there are generations of people still alive that lived through it (including, possibly, you)? Do you really think those underlying beliefs and institutions don't still exist in American society? And do you really think that, if they do exist, that fact is neither important nor relevant?

Those are not rhetorical questions. I'm genuinely curious, since you seem awfully eager to ignore the reality of the past and present.
Explaining.  And use of facts.

You think it will help.  Sadly, it won't.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

tower912

When you are a young white millionaire professional athlete, you don't get tased and arrested for parking in handicapped spots at a Walgreen's.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/video-police-using-stun-gun-bucks-sterling-brown-concerns-milwaukees-mayor-164333999.html
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MU82

Quote from: tower912 on May 22, 2018, 01:03:25 PM
When you are a young white millionaire professional athlete, you don't get tased and arrested for parking in handicapped spots at a Walgreen's.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/video-police-using-stun-gun-bucks-sterling-brown-concerns-milwaukees-mayor-164333999.html

Will wait for video to make judgment, but the mayor is "concerned."
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

GGGG

Quote from: tower912 on May 22, 2018, 01:03:25 PM
When you are a young white millionaire professional athlete, you don't get tased and arrested for parking in handicapped spots at a Walgreen's.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/video-police-using-stun-gun-bucks-sterling-brown-concerns-milwaukees-mayor-164333999.html


"He had it coming parking in a handicapped spot." - Scoopers who shall remain nameless.

chapman

Quote from: tower912 on May 22, 2018, 01:03:25 PM
When you are a young white millionaire professional athlete, you don't get tased and arrested for parking in handicapped spots at a Walgreen's.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/video-police-using-stun-gun-bucks-sterling-brown-concerns-milwaukees-mayor-164333999.html


All indications are it's going to be pretty damning.  Evidence is a good thing - just as they proved law enforcement officers innocent in the examples on the previous page, it's looking as if it will be the other way this time. 

This is also why specific examples are useful.  It is actionable - both in this instance (discipline/firing) and future policy (hiring/training/deployment).  Shouting vague terms about widespread oppression, or the inspiring "everyone, suck it up!" non-solution is why the once productive conversation in this thread is leading to the lock.





4everwarriors

Nothin' good happens at 2 am, aina?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Lennys Tap

#318
Quote from: chapman on May 22, 2018, 01:30:45 PM

All indications are it's going to be pretty damning.  Evidence is a good thing - just as they proved law enforcement officers innocent in the examples on the previous page, it's looking as if it will be the other way this time. 



Love me some evidence, be it exculpatory or damning! Way better that the pre-packaged biases preferred by Scoopers from all persuasions.

Goose

4ever

It took me to about age 45, but I agree, nothing good happens at 2am. I have advised my boys to learn it that far quicker than it took the old man.

tower912

Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 22, 2018, 01:55:05 PM
Nothin' good happens at 2 am, aina?

I took a really good leak this morning at 2 am.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: Goose on May 22, 2018, 01:59:43 PM
4ever

It took me to about age 45, but I agree, nothing good happens at 2am. I have advised my boys to learn it that far quicker than it took the old man.

Food truck tacos
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Pakuni

Quote from: #bansultan on May 22, 2018, 01:13:02 PM

"He had it coming parking in a handicapped spot." - Scoopers who shall remain nameless.

Maybe he was drunk and wearing something provocative.

4everwarriors

Quote from: tower912 on May 22, 2018, 02:01:39 PM
I took a really good leak this morning at 2 am.   
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At yo crib orr on 'gainst a buildin', hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

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