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Nukem2

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Re: [Paint Touches] Traditional Transfer Tracker
« Reply #150 on: May 08, 2018, 08:51:55 AM »

So I was wrong.  I misread the "original" school.  So if Flory was "recruited" by Seton Hall as a walk-on, he would have to sit?

How do you define "recruited?"  Contacted in any manner?
I corrected my post which was missing a word.  I was defending you.

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Re: [Paint Touches] Traditional Transfer Tracker
« Reply #151 on: May 08, 2018, 09:01:07 AM »
I corrected my post which was missing a word.  I was defending you.


I know you were and thank you.  But I was wrong.

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Re: [Paint Touches] Traditional Transfer Tracker
« Reply #152 on: May 08, 2018, 09:23:39 AM »

I know you were and thank you.  But I was wrong.

Indeed u wuz! PS- re-read what you posted re: the breakdown of sports, then research the “may”.

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My quick read:
He may be OK, he may not be. It depends.

Look to 14.5.5.2.10.
He does not meet the requirements of 14.5.5.2.10-(a) because he played men’s basketball. However, there is a one-time exception available under 14.5.5.2.10.2 if he was not recruited.

Look to 13.02.14.1. If there was ever an arranged in-person off-campus encounter with the kid or his parents/guardians and a Seton Hall staff member or athletics rep (as defined), he doesn’t qualify. Now, did Seton Hall staff and the Flory’s ever sit down at some event or in-home and chat about the possibilities of him walking-on? Maybe. Maybe not. Seems more likely in this situations than in others (e.g., not quite your typical walk-on, where you had previously verbally committed to a D-I powerhouse program).

13.02.14.1 Recruited Prospective Student-Athlete. Actions by staff members or athletics representatives that cause a prospective student-athlete to become a recruited prospective student-athlete at that institution are:

(a) Providing the prospective student-athlete with an official visit;
(b) Having an arranged, in-person, off-campus encounter with the prospective student-athlete or the prospective student-athlete’s parents, relatives or legal guardians; or
(c) Issuing a National Letter of Intent or the institution’s written offer of athletically related financial aid to the prospective student-athlete. Issuing a written offer of athletically related financial aid to a prospective student-athlete to attend a summer session prior to full-time enrollment does not cause the prospective student-athlete to become recruited.
« Last Edit: May 08, 2018, 09:41:16 AM by Jay Bee »
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Re: [Paint Touches] Traditional Transfer Tracker
« Reply #153 on: May 08, 2018, 09:47:53 AM »
I suspect there is plenty of plausible deniability here by all parties..... ;)

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Re: [Paint Touches] Traditional Transfer Tracker
« Reply #154 on: May 08, 2018, 11:36:46 AM »
Cremo to Villanova.
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Re: [Paint Touches] Traditional Transfer Tracker
« Reply #155 on: May 08, 2018, 07:22:11 PM »
"I don't care what Chick says, my mom's a babe" 

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Re: [Paint Touches] Traditional Transfer Tracker
« Reply #156 on: May 08, 2018, 09:16:56 PM »
Cremo to Villanova.

Philadelphia Cremo? Jeez!
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Re: [Paint Touches] Traditional Transfer Tracker
« Reply #157 on: May 08, 2018, 10:51:31 PM »
Indeed u wuz! PS- re-read what you posted re: the breakdown of sports, then research the “may”.

—————
My quick read:
He may be OK, he may not be. It depends.

Look to 14.5.5.2.10.
He does not meet the requirements of 14.5.5.2.10-(a) because he played men’s basketball. However, there is a one-time exception available under 14.5.5.2.10.2 if he was not recruited.

Look to 13.02.14.1. If there was ever an arranged in-person off-campus encounter with the kid or his parents/guardians and a Seton Hall staff member or athletics rep (as defined), he doesn’t qualify. Now, did Seton Hall staff and the Flory’s ever sit down at some event or in-home and chat about the possibilities of him walking-on? Maybe. Maybe not. Seems more likely in this situations than in others (e.g., not quite your typical walk-on, where you had previously verbally committed to a D-I powerhouse program).

13.02.14.1 Recruited Prospective Student-Athlete. Actions by staff members or athletics representatives that cause a prospective student-athlete to become a recruited prospective student-athlete at that institution are:

(a) Providing the prospective student-athlete with an official visit;
(b) Having an arranged, in-person, off-campus encounter with the prospective student-athlete or the prospective student-athlete’s parents, relatives or legal guardians; or
(c) Issuing a National Letter of Intent or the institution’s written offer of athletically related financial aid to the prospective student-athlete. Issuing a written offer of athletically related financial aid to a prospective student-athlete to attend a summer session prior to full-time enrollment does not cause the prospective student-athlete to become recruited.
Flory met all the exceptions which is why he is immediately eligible which was confirmed.

Flory is in a good position right now because he can either get a scholarship somewhere else and play immediately or he can stay at Seton Hall and probably be an 8th or 9th man on the roster and pick up some more minutes.  Will be interesting to see what he chooses.
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Re: [Paint Touches] Traditional Transfer Tracker
« Reply #158 on: May 09, 2018, 09:33:41 AM »
Flory met all the exceptions which is why he is immediately eligible which was confirmed.

Flory is in a good position right now because he can either get a scholarship somewhere else and play immediately or he can stay at Seton Hall and probably be an 8th or 9th man on the roster and pick up some more minutes.  Will be interesting to see what he chooses.

What you said is that he was eligible simply and only because he was A walk-on. That claim - which is not true - is why I replied
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Re: [Paint Touches] Traditional Transfer Tracker
« Reply #159 on: May 09, 2018, 09:41:27 AM »
Philadelphia Cremo? Jeez!

Cremo the crop

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Re: [Paint Touches] Traditional Transfer Tracker
« Reply #160 on: May 09, 2018, 11:16:16 AM »
Philadelphia Cremo? Jeez!

Sorry I just saw this but well done.

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Re: [Paint Touches] Traditional Transfer Tracker
« Reply #161 on: May 09, 2018, 11:22:08 AM »
Cremo rises to the top.

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Re: [Paint Touches] Traditional Transfer Tracker
« Reply #162 on: May 09, 2018, 11:23:32 AM »
Crimson and Cremo, hey?
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Re: [Paint Touches] Traditional Transfer Tracker
« Reply #163 on: May 09, 2018, 01:10:50 PM »
Cremo Sucks!

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Re: [Paint Touches] Traditional Transfer Tracker
« Reply #164 on: May 11, 2018, 06:28:26 PM »
What you said is that he was eligible simply and only because he was A walk-on. That claim - which is not true - is why I replied
He just committed to Albany.  Guess he met all those little nitty bitty ncaa rules.....

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Re: [Paint Touches] Traditional Transfer Tracker
« Reply #165 on: May 11, 2018, 08:25:09 PM »
He just committed to Albany.  Guess he met all those little nitty bitty ncaa rules.....

Committing is not playing. Nonetheless, he may have. But Herman’s claims were dead wrong, that’s all. Don’t make this about make believe land
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Re: [Paint Touches] Traditional Transfer Tracker
« Reply #166 on: May 11, 2018, 09:19:51 PM »
Committing is not playing. Nonetheless, he may have. But Herman’s claims were dead wrong, that’s all. Don’t make this about make believe land
Whateva... #JBnews. Seriously, this is your first straight forward post in eons.  Welcome back.

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Re: [Paint Touches] Traditional Transfer Tracker
« Reply #167 on: May 11, 2018, 10:18:03 PM »
What you said is that he was eligible simply and only because he was A walk-on. That claim - which is not true - is why I replied
I simplified a very complex rule for the purposes of a post. This is  a message board and it is not necessary to write things like a prospectus. I understand these rules as well as any one on this board including yourself as I have been a D-1 athlete and had 3 kids who had to navigate all of the bs of the NCAa.

I get that your an accountant and like precision. I hire a lot of accountants at my company and we do well so there is definitely a role for a person who pays attention to details.
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Re: [Paint Touches] Traditional Transfer Tracker
« Reply #168 on: May 12, 2018, 10:43:46 AM »
I simplified a very complex rule for the purposes of a post. This is  a message board and it is not necessary to write things like a prospectus. I understand these rules as well as any one on this board including yourself as I have been a D-1 athlete and had 3 kids who had to navigate all of the bs of the NCAa.

I get that your an accountant and like precision. I hire a lot of accountants at my company and we do well so there is definitely a role for a person who pays attention to details.

You’re vs your

Sorry, I didn’t realize your post was a brief high-level summary; thought it was a research report!
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Re: [Paint Touches] Traditional Transfer Tracker
« Reply #169 on: May 12, 2018, 10:49:09 AM »
Conversation at the Sultan household this morning.

Wife:  Did you see that Dwyane Wade is getting his degree? That must be why he has been around the team so much lately.

Me:  No I didn't. That's cool. He also knows coach Wojo well when he was on the Olympic team.

Wife:  <blank stare>

Me:  You know, when Coach K was the Olympic head coach and Wojo was one of his assistants?

Wife:  I meant Ron Dayne

Me:    :P


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« Reply #171 on: May 12, 2018, 12:05:58 PM »
Conversation at the Sultan household this morning.

Wife:  Did you see that Dwyane Wade is getting his degree? That must be why he has been around the team so much lately.

Me:  No I didn't. That's cool. He also knows coach Wojo well when he was on the Olympic team.

Wife:  <blank stare>

Me:  You know, when Coach K was the Olympic head coach and Wojo was one of his assistants?

Wife:  I meant Ron Dayne

Me:    :P

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Re: [Paint Touches] Traditional Transfer Tracker
« Reply #172 on: May 13, 2018, 12:01:58 PM »
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Re: [Paint Touches] Traditional Transfer Tracker
« Reply #173 on: May 24, 2018, 05:57:28 PM »
Interesting pick up for Creighton. SE Missouri State guard Denzel Mahoney. Was injured in the run up to his senior season and thus fell off the radar of many schools. Was All Ohio Valley last year. Seems like a good fit for Creighton.

http://www.omaha.com/creighton/mens-basketball/denzel-mahoney-transfers-to-creighton-looking-for-chance-to-prove/article_6f149138-fe67-5d7e-9fb2-9407c529b916.html


https://247sports.com/college/ole-miss/Article/Former-Southeast-Missouri-State-guard-Denzel-Mahoney-is-getting-close-to-coming-to-a-decision-on-his-transfer-destination-118315974
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« Reply #174 on: June 06, 2018, 07:28:17 PM »
A nice  rim protection transfer pick up for Seton Hall from Florida State. Looking forward to seeing Ike versus Ike in the future....
https://www.app.com/story/sports/college/2018/05/17/seton-hall-basketball-ike-obiagu/619284002/
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