MPG with no transfer

[Silkk the Shaka]

Without an immediately eligible PG transfer next year, I'd go with:

M2N: 30
Cain: 25
Sam: 30
Joey: 25
Morrow: 30

Elliott: 20
Theo: 20
Heldt: 10-15

Everyone else on a stutaional as-needed basis

Run a 3/2 zone with M2N & Elliott at the top, Cain & Sam on wings shading in on penetration & helping on P&R, Morrow/Joey/Theo/Heldt on the blocks.

That's a top 3 BEast team with the talent everyone else is losing this summer. Add a high level grad transfer PG and we're conference favorites IMHO.

[Its DJOver]

Sacar done did disappeared again

[DCHoopster]

MU zone was horrible this year, we are not Syracuse when it comes to length

[cheese ball chaser]

No Froling?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Where's Sacar? 

Also, is there a single team in college basketball that runs a 3-2 zone as it's base defense?

[Silkk the Shaka]

Sacar done did disappeared again

You missed him in the "others receiving votes" section

[Silkk the Shaka]

Where's Sacar? 

Also, is there a single team in college basketball that runs a 3-2 zone as it's base defense?

To quote Leon Phelps, there's a first time for everythang

[GGGG]

You missed him in the "others receiving votes" section

So he's going from a 27 mpg player down to situational player?  I highly doubt that.

I also doubt that Matt and Theo are going to basically reverse roles next year.

[GB Warrior]

I'll be interested to see how we use Morrow, but i'd be surprised to use him primarily at the 5. I expect a good chunk of time as a 4 next to a Theo or Heldt. Really depends on if he can stretch the defense even a little bit.

[LAZER]

Without an immediately eligible PG transfer next year, I'd go with:

M2N: 30
Cain: 25
Sam: 30
Joey: 25
Morrow: 30

Elliott: 20
Theo: 20
Heldt: 10-15

Everyone else on a stutaional as-needed basis

Run a 3/2 zone with M2N & Elliott at the top, Cain & Sam on wings shading in on penetration & helping on P&R, Morrow/Joey/Theo/Heldt on the blocks.

That's a top 3 BEast team with the talent everyone else is losing this summer. Add a high level grad transfer PG and we're conference favorites IMHO.

M2N: 30 - agree
Cain: 25 - less, Anim probably gets 25
Sam: 30 - agree
Joey: 25 - maybe a little less
Morrow: 30  - agree

Elliott: 20 - agree
Theo: 20 - less
Heldt: 10-15- more

[Its DJOver]

You missed him in the "others receiving votes" section

If Sacar drops from 27 mpg to garbage time, he will transfer.

[Silkk the Shaka]

If Sacar drops from 27 mpg to garbage time, he will transfer.

Agreed, he'd probably grad transfer in that scenario

[KampusFoods]

If Sacar is playing garbage time minutes we'll be either a.) terrible because our only good defender isn't playing or b.) really good because everyone else got good at defense.

He'll play a lot and he'll be pretty good IMO.

[Silkk the Shaka]

If Sacar is playing garbage time minutes we'll be either a.) terrible because our only good defender isn't playing or b.) really good because everyone else got good at defense.

He'll play a lot and he'll be pretty good IMO.

I think the added length (6'8" across the board), strength, and talent coming in will be a huge boon to the defense, so Sacar will be less necessary. If he improves his 3 ball and finishing ability around the rim, I could see him in the 15 minute range next season with a nice role carved out. I like the guy, good nose for the game, and I hope he improves.

[Its DJOver]

I think the added length (6'8" across the board), strength, and talent coming in will be a huge boon to the defense, so Sacar will be less necessary. If he improves his 3 ball and finishing ability around the rim, I could see him in the 15 minute range next season with a nice role carved out. I like the guy, good nose for the game, and I hope he improves.

If you see him in a 15 mpg role, that might be worth mentioning in the OP, since you project that Matt will get at most the same minutes.

[Silkk the Shaka]

If you see him in a 15 mpg role, that might be worth mentioning in the OP, since you project that Matt will get at most the same minutes.

My base case is that he does not improve the 3 ball enough. This offense depends on shooters. M2N/Jamal/Sam/Joey getting major minutes puts four 40%+ type 3 shooters on the court, 3 of whom have good size/length for their position. If he improves in that facet, then I could see it. Otherwise Bailey (6'8" with a rep for shooting) will likely play situationally along with him. I hope he's able to do it!

[Its DJOver]

My base case is that he does not improve the 3 ball enough. This offense depends on shooters. M2N/Jamal/Sam/Joey getting major minutes puts four 40%+ type 3 shooters on the court, 3 of whom have good size/length for their position. If he improves in that facet, then I could see it. Otherwise Bailey (6'8" with a rep for shooting) will likely play situationally along with him. I hope he's able to do it!

Believe me, I was critical of Sacar earlier in the year, and I still don't think he has improved enough to be more than a role player, but he will see minutes next year, even if he does not improve his three point shooting.  Sacar also should not be playing the same position as Markus, Sam, or Joey, so their ability to shoot the three should have no effect on his minutes.  I see quite a few of Sacar's minutes going to Jamal and Greg, but he should still get 15 per.

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

Its my hope that sacar doesnt play much next year.  That would bode well for the team.  Hes not any good.
Drives well but finishes poorly and reallyb does little else well.  I could see a combo of the new players n the returners taking most of his minutes.  Unless joey is not any good he should step right in and take those minutes.  Again i think he was prolly the worst 3 in the BE, if we have anyone to take his minutes this year they prolly do

[LAZER]

Believe me, I was critical of Sacar earlier in the year, and I still don't think he has improved enough to be more than a role player, but he will see minutes next year, even if he does not improve his three point shooting.  Sacar also should not be playing the same position as Markus, Sam, or Joey, so their ability to shoot the three should have no effect on his minutes.  I see quite a few of Sacar's minutes going to Jamal and Greg, but he should still get 15 per.

I think Anim is going to be more valuable to next year's team than both Cain & Elliott. Unless Elliott is able to emerge as a viable PG option and Cain becomes more than a spot-up shooter, I think their minutes will stay the same.

[Its DJOver]

I think Anim is going to be more valuable to next year's team than both Cain & Elliott. Unless Elliott is able to emerge as a viable PG option and Cain becomes more than a spot-up shooter, I think their minutes will stay the same.

IDK, 27 is a lot.  The only ones that should be that close to 30 are Sam and Markus.  Maybe Ed at 25, but until I see him play I'm trying to manage expectations.  Also maybe the grad transfer, although again trying to manage expectations.  Anim still has a role to play on this team, but I think it will be more of a first or second off the bench role

[LAZER]

IDK, 27 is a lot.  The only ones that should be that close to 30 are Sam and Markus.  Maybe Ed at 25, but until I see him play I'm trying to manage expectations.  Also maybe the grad transfer, although again trying to manage expectations.  Anim still has a role to play on this team, but I think it will be more of a first or second off the bench role

Yeah it's all really hard to guess without knowing if there's another G/PG coming.

[Its DJOver]

Yeah it's all really hard to guess without knowing if there's another G/PG coming.

Its also hard to predict minutes when we could in theory go 10+ deep depending on a bunch of things.
Harry staying/going
Ike's recovery
Joey being the real deal
Ed being the real deal
The amount of rust on Brendan

[Silkk the Shaka]

I think Anim is going to be more valuable to next year's team than both Cain & Elliott. Unless Elliott is able to emerge as a viable PG option and Cain becomes more than a spot-up shooter, I think their minutes will stay the same.

Those are things that I think will happen

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

Dont get the sacar love?  He did what well??
He pkayed because he for the most part out played two rail thin teenagers.  He literally apart from driving does nothing, including finishing those drives,  well. 

[Its DJOver]

Dont get the sacar love? He did what well??
He pkayed because he for the most part out played two rail thin teenagers.  He literally apart from driving does nothing, including finishing those drives,  well.

Not sure where you're getting this.  Most posts other than your attacks on Sacar have been about trying to determine how much his minutes will go down.  There seems to be an acceptance that they will go down, people are just guessing about how much.

I think he's a role player at best, but he does have a role to play on this team.