710

[lawdog77]

The single season points record for Marquette. Rowsey is at 687 while Howard is at 673. Do you feel it will be broken this year? Also what is the best scoring combo in MU history? These two? Or McNeal/Matthews senior year? Who from the McGuire era?

[Galway Eagle]

Rowsey will break it. Howard probably needs two more games.

[TallTitan34]

Also what is the best scoring combo in MU history? These two? Or McNeal/Matthews senior year?

Wade/Diener?

[TallTitan34]

Single Season Points
1. 710 Dwyane Wade 2002‐03
2. 693 Jerel McNeal 2008‐09
3. 689 Tony Smith 1989‐90
4. 687 Andrew Rowsey 2017-18
5. 673 Markus Howard 2017-18
6. 664 George Thompson 1967‐68
7. 640 Wesley Matthews 2008‐09
8. 628 Butch Lee 1976‐77
9. 623 Darius Johnson‐Odom 2011‐12
10. 616 Lazar Hayward 2009‐10
10. 616 Dean Meminger 1970‐71
11. 614 Jae Crowder 2011‐12

[TallTitan34]

Three Pointers Made
1. 121 Steve Novak 2005‐06
2. 119 Andrew Rowsey 2017-18
3. 109 Markus Howard 2017-18
4. 92 Sam Hauser 2017-18
5. 90 Travis Diener 2003‐04
6. 89 Steve Novak 2004‐05
6. 89 Steve Novak 2003‐04
7. 86 Jerel McNeal 2008‐09
8. 83 Matt Carlino 2014‐15
9. 82 Markus Howard 2016‐17
10. 77 Darius Johnson‐Odom 2011‐12
11. 75 Robb Logterman 1993‐94
12. 73 Darius Johnson‐Odom 2009‐10
12. 73 Anthony Pieper 1994‐95

[MUfan12]

Sam has 92 makes this year as well.

[TallTitan34]

Sam has 92 makes this year as well.

Good catch.  I updated the list.

[Coleman]

Wade/Diener?

Meh. Diener didn't really score a ton of points until after Wade left. 03-04, and 04-05 were his biggest years points wise.  He averaged 7.9 as a freshman and 11.8 as a sophomore.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

What about this...MH needs 690 next year to tie GT's 3 year all-time scoring record.  What a great potential accomplishment.

GT - 523 | 664 | 586 = 1773
MH - 410 | 673 (+ remaining) - 1773 = 690

[TallTitan34]

Meh. Diener didn't really score a ton of points until after Wade left. 04-05 was his biggest year points wise.

You're right.  Looked up the 2002-03 stats.  Wade and Jackson actually put up 1,219 points, but even they are still 114 short of Wes and Jerel's 1,333 points.

So yeah,  Rowsey and Howard are statistically the best scoring duo in Marquette history.  1,360 points and counting.  You could probably make arguments for the guys before the three point line since that's where 684 of Rowsey and Howard's points came from.

[oldwarrior81]

I think Tony Smith (23.8) and Trevor Powell (16.7) in 1990 are the only MU teammates to combine for an average of 40+ a game.

Rowsey and Howard are at an even 40.0 this season.

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

Great scoring records unfortunately their inability to keep the other team from scoring resulted in an NIT appearance

[TallTitan34]

Great scoring records unfortunately their inability to keep the other team from scoring resulted in an NIT appearance

[BobWildLoyalist]

710 Ashbury, Nod to Jer

[Floorslapper]

Great scoring records unfortunately their inability to keep the other team from scoring resulted in an NIT appearance

Not their fault.  The defensive scheme chosen for this team was the wrong one from the outset.   I feel it raises a red flag about the coaching job that was done this year, when the highest scoring duo in the illustrious history of our basketball program, missed the NCAA.

And, this doesn't even take into consideration that Sam Hauser turned in one of the top 3 Value Add seasons this century, after D-Wade and Rowsey.  Yep.  Rowsey and Sam's Value Add were better than any of Jae, Jimmy, Wes, Jerel, Travis, DJO, Lazar.

To the positive, Wojo recruited all of Sam, Markus, and Rowsey - landed the talent - but seemingly failed to deliver on the results that such elite performance should have led to.  (Maybe 1 NCAA tourney win?)

[StillAWarrior]

I feel it raises a red flag about the coaching job that was done this year, when the highest scoring duo in the illustrious history of our basketball program, missed the NCAA.

Well, if oldwarrior81 is right, perhaps you should bring that up with Kevin O'Neill.  But we all know he couldn't coach defense.

[Floorslapper]

Well, if oldwarrior81 is right, perhaps you should bring that up with Kevin O'Neill.  But we all know he couldn't coach defense.

Was there a 3rd gun (of Hauser's quality) on the team's with Tony Smith and Trevor Powell?  Was that K.O.'s very first year as a head coach?  As I'm sure you are aware, we are still being given the Wojo is a young coach, in his first head coaching job, rationale, now 4-years into his leadership to justify performance.  Pretty sure K.O. had us in NCAA in Year 4 as well?

[StillAWarrior]

Was there a 3rd gun (of Hauser's quality) on the team's with Tony Smith and Trevor Powell?  Was that K.O.'s very first year as a head coach?  As I'm sure you are aware, we are still being given the Wojo is a young coach, in his first head coaching job, rationale, now 4-years into his leadership to justify performance.  Pretty sure K.O. had us in NCAA in Year 4 as well?

My post wasn't a defense of Wojo, so no need to get your hackles up.  I was merely pointing out that having a great scoring combo isn't necessarily a ticket to the NCAAs.

[oldwarrior81]

1990 team also had Tyrone Baldwin at 12.4 and Mark Anglavar at 8.9.   

About the same number of points as Hauser and Anim as 3rd and 4th scorers.

Ironically that 1990 squad lost to Penn State in the NIT.

[swoopem]

710 Ashbury, Nod to Jer

There were days...

[GGGG]

1990 team also had Tyrone Baldwin at 12.4 and Mark Anglavar at 8.9.   

About the same number of points as Hauser and Anim as 3rd and 4th scorers.

Ironically that 1990 squad lost to Penn State in the NIT.

Went 15-14 including 9-5 in an inferior conference that sent two teams to the NCAA tournament, one of which (Dayton) may not have gotten in without winning the conference tournament.

[Coleman]

Went 15-14 including 9-5 in an inferior conference that sent two teams to the NCAA tournament, one of which (Dayton) may not have gotten in without winning the conference tournament.

But at least we were the Warriors back then!

[Jockey]

I think Tony Smith (23.8) and Trevor Powell (16.7) in 1990 are the only MU teammates to combine for an average of 40+ a game.

Rowsey and Howard are at an even 40.0 this season.

Chones and Meminger were at 39+ for a slow down offense.

[MUEng92]

Ironically that 1990 squad lost to Penn State in the NIT.

I would go with more "Ominously" than "Ironically" but I'm a pessimist by nature.

[MU82]

Great scoring records unfortunately their inability to keep the other team from scoring resulted in an NIT appearance

Not their fault.  The defensive scheme chosen for this team was the wrong one from the outset.   I feel it raises a red flag about the coaching job that was done this year, when the highest scoring duo in the illustrious history of our basketball program, missed the NCAA.

And, this doesn't even take into consideration that Sam Hauser turned in one of the top 3 Value Add seasons this century, after D-Wade and Rowsey.  Yep.  Rowsey and Sam's Value Add were better than any of Jae, Jimmy, Wes, Jerel, Travis, DJO, Lazar.

To the positive, Wojo recruited all of Sam, Markus, and Rowsey - landed the talent - but seemingly failed to deliver on the results that such elite performance should have led to.  (Maybe 1 NCAA tourney win?)

So here we have another perfectly good thread about a pretty cool accomplishment being sullied by Know It All 1 and Know It All 2.

Two guys who love presenting their opinions as facts. Two guys who seem to revel in being negative and in making personal attacks.