(debunked) Rumor: Froling Dismissed from Team

[Its DJOver]

I don't really get the comparison between big men.  Harry is a completely different type of player with a different skillset that has played half a season for MU.  Has he been a disappointment so far? I would say yes, but everyone's expectations were different for him coming in.  Would I take a semester of Harry over 4 years of Ooze or 6 years of Otule? No.  But lets wait until he's played more than a full season at the same program to start comparing him to bigs that were with the program for years.   

[skianth16]

We will just have to disagree.   

So you're dug in that game minutes are the only important metric in measuring experience? That the March of freshman year verson of Greg Elliott is basically just as experienced as November of junior year Frank Kaminsky? And that a redshirt player should not be expected to be a better and stronger player after his year off?

Fair enough. I made my points. You don't have to agree with them.

[Lennys Tap]

So, when Eke is not excelling by March next year, will you not accept that he is basically a freshman?

There might be a myriad of reasons that Ike isn't excelling by March of next year that have nothing to do with age or experience (ability?). But since he was injured I wouldn't expect him to benefit from a redshirt year as much as most.

[rocket surgeon]

We could really use harry next year.  I think he was pressing early, wanting to live up to the quiet hype.  If he coulda drained his first few 3's, took a few charges, throw down a big O board over trevon,  make the no-look pass to ge breaking to the basket...ya know what i mean.
  GIVE IT TO THE BIG FELLA

[Eldon]

Maybe flights to Australia are cheaper via NYC.

Well done.

[MU82]

The "don't shoot the messenger" defense only works when delivering what you believe to be a truthful message in good faith.

Even though you knew this was a rumor and clearly disclosed the same, it was dangerously close to the line between "innocuous rumor," e.g. Crean's getting a new tanning bed for the hyperbaric chamber, and "incendiary rumor," e.g. blank blank and blank kicked a bunch of puppies on their way to a grade school gang rape.  In other words, nobody cares if the former isn't true, but even if proven false, the latter can have damaging consequences. 

Granted, the harm here is minimal (if any), but my friendly recommendation is to tread more cautiously next time when proposing rumors involving the careers of 18-22 year old students. 

Or at least try to verify your source.

You know, I've never liked blank, blank OR blank. All three of them ... devil's children. I wouldn't be surprised if each had 2-2-2 on his head!

[dw3dw3dw3]

MUBB trolling

https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/971066993469218818

[skianth16]

MUBB trolling

https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/971066993469218818

Oh God, Wojo has his team running offensive sets against no defense in practice? These guys will be in for quite a surprise tomorrow.

[cheebs09]

Oh God, Wojo has his team running offensive sets against no defense in practice? These guys will be in for quite a surprise tomorrow.

With the way we defend, would it matter if people were there? Wojo saving the team's energy.

[TheTulsaWarrior]

A number of Marquette fans have done a disservice to Froling with the rumor mill working overtime on this message board. The team and the young man don't need the distraction. Like most of us he's a work in progress. With the help of the Marquette staff he has gotten healthy and reshaped his body. He has the potential to be a difference maker in the post season -- after that his future is up to him and we should wish him the best whether it's playing college ball or as a pro.

[skianth16]

A number of Marquette fans have done a disservice to Froling with the rumor mill working overtime on this message board. The team and the young man don't need the distraction. Like most of us he's a work in progress. With the help of the Marquette staff he has gotten healthy and reshaped his body. He has the potential to be a difference maker in the post season -- after that his future is up to him and we should wish him the best whether it's playing college ball or as a pro.

How can a thread on a message board possibly be a distraction to the team? Come on, this doesn't mean anything to the coaches or the players. I'm sure most don't even know this site exists. If this was being broadcast on ESPN or FS1, sure, that cold be a distraction, but a bunch of fans talking about rumors online is a complete non-issue for Harry, Wojo, or the team.

[GGGG]

If a post on Scoop is a "distraction" to the team, then the team has deeper problems than we realize.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

If a post on Scoop is a "distraction" to the team, then the team has deeper problems than we realize.

That was my first thought too. 

[jsglow]

If a post on Scoop is a "distraction" to the team, then the team has deeper problems than we realize.

Exactly.  Perhaps the best strategy at this point is to simply allow it to fade into history.  That's my plan.   

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

If a post on Scoop is a "distraction" to the team, then the team has deeper problems than we realize.

I don't think the thread is a "distraction" to the team persay, but there is really no need for it to be here.  I do think that the players are probably aware of Scoop.  There has also been some chatter about it on twitter.  Its pure conjecture and really no need for it.  We know Harry reads twitter, and has even responded to people badmouthing him on there.  I'd hate for the kid to get swayed one way or another over a bunch of dudes talking about how its not a loss if he transfers or leaves.  I would hope that wouldn't be the case, but these are 18-21 year old kids. 

As others have said, and I have previously, I hope Harry sticks around.  He could be a key contributor on this team the next two seasons. There is really nothing out there that suggests he has 1 foot out the door, and DB has even squashed it. I don't run the board, but I would have deleted this thread yesterday when it become clear the OP was given some bad intel.

[hairy worthen]

I don't really get the comparison between big men.  Harry is a completely different type of player with a different skillset that has played half a season for MU.  Has he been a disappointment so far? I would say yes, but everyone's expectations were different for him coming in.  Would I take a semester of Harry over 4 years of Ooze or 6 years of Otule? No.  But lets wait until he's played more than a full season at the same program to start comparing him to bigs that were with the program for years.

Wait, I thought Otule was tenured and still on the team.

[Newsdreams]

Oh God, Wojo has his team running offensive sets against no defense in practice? These guys will be in for quite a surprise tomorrow.

I hope this is teal

[warriorchick]

I hope this is teal

You can never tell with this crowd.

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

A number of Marquette fans have done a disservice to Froling with the rumor mill working overtime on this message board. The team and the young man don't need the distraction. Like most of us he's a work in progress. With the help of the Marquette staff he has gotten healthy and reshaped his body. He has the potential to be a difference maker in the post season -- after that his future is up to him and we should wish him the best whether it's playing college ball or as a pro.

😂😂😂😂😂😂

A dozen or so people post in a random message board about a supposed rumor, to which the vast majority respond that they hope the player stays ir that he might be going pro or that he might be better than some multiple years starters with conference shampionship rings or that he may just need to buckle down n keep his nose to the grindstone for the next 24 months in anticipation of better results
Agreed if this is causing a distraction to MU bball than they have much thinner skin than i could of ever imagined and Wojo would need to go along with the rest of the team. 
Alas, this is, im virtually certain, not even on the teams radar . 
If they are aware of it im sure this tulsas post got the greatest laugh 😂😂😂😂😂

[NickelDimer]

A number of Marquette fans have done a disservice to Froling with the rumor mill working overtime on this message board. The team and the young man don't need the distraction. Like most of us he's a work in progress. With the help of the Marquette staff he has gotten healthy and reshaped his body. He has the potential to be a difference maker in the post season -- after that his future is up to him and we should wish him the best whether it's playing college ball or as a pro.

Lighten up on the starch

[skianth16]

I hope this is teal

I couldn't find the "very teal" font color for the message you quoted. Don't worry, it was very much a joke.

[LoudMouth]

That is genius! Let's go onto the DePaul and Nova boards and start threads about there players transferring/going to the draft. Sabotage!!

[jsglow]

That is genius! Let's go onto the DePaul and Nova boards and start threads about there players transferring/going to the draft. Sabotage!!

[D'Lo Brown]

I don't think the thread is a "distraction" to the team persay, but there is really no need for it to be here.  I do think that the players are probably aware of Scoop.  There has also been some chatter about it on twitter.  Its pure conjecture and really no need for it.  We know Harry reads twitter, and has even responded to people badmouthing him on there.  I'd hate for the kid to get swayed one way or another over a bunch of dudes talking about how its not a loss if he transfers or leaves.  I would hope that wouldn't be the case, but these are 18-21 year old kids. 

As others have said, and I have previously, I hope Harry sticks around.  He could be a key contributor on this team the next two seasons. There is really nothing out there that suggests he has 1 foot out the door, and DB has even squashed it. I don't run the board, but I would have deleted this thread yesterday when it become clear the OP was given some bad intel.

Give me a break. Give me two breaks.

There is a low probability that they are aware of this board. However, being aware that something exists (as low a probability as it is) and then literally reading every last thread/comment daily is a galactic jump to take... Which is what you're suggesting. Harry could not give a damn about whether you specifically wish his feelings are OK or not, or whichever Scoop user is being critical of him or not.

This thread is perfectly acceptable material for a forum such as Scoop. It was a reasonable topic and likely has some level of truth behind it, besides the fact that the semantics were incorrect. We have seen all kinds of insane rumors come along on this forum which had no basis in reality at all and they are enshrined in the history of scoop itself.

Do you just think that Harry has a lot of feelings, and you're worried about that? Or what?

[Pakuni]

Give me a break. Give me two breaks.

There is a low probability that they are aware of this board. However, being aware that something exists (as low a probability as it is) and then literally reading every last thread/comment daily is a galactic jump to take... Which is what you're suggesting. Harry could not give a damn about whether you specifically wish his feelings are OK or not, or whichever Scoop user is being critical of him or not.

This thread is perfectly acceptable material for a forum such as Scoop. It was a reasonable topic and likely has some level of truth behind it, besides the fact that the semantics were incorrect. We have seen all kinds of insane rumors come along on this forum which had no basis in reality at all and they are enshrined in the history of scoop itself.

Do you just think that Harry has a lot of feelings, and you're worried about that? Or what?

1. They're aware of the board. It's been referenced by parents of players, among others.

2. It's exceptionally unlikely a stupid thread about a stupid rumor has any impact on the team.

3. No, it's not a reasonable topic and there appears to be no level of truth to it. Starting and/or spreading unfounded rumors that cast a 19-year-old college student in a bad light - all while hiding behind the anonymity of the internet -  is bullsh*t.