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Will we get a bid with a 1-1 finish in NY

Yes
94 (48%)
No
102 (52%)

Total Members Voted: 195

Its DJOver

It's looks like we're locked into the 7 seed. I think everyone agrees that 0-1 we're out and 2 wins or better we're in, question is, is 1-1 enough to get to into the tourney?
Scoop motto:
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

Smokin' Jae

The only thing I like about this draw is that if you take care of business against depaul then you have one game against nova for a spot in the tournament, win and you're in and you can relax on Sunday

cschor

 I know it didn't help a couple years ago but 20 is a magic number.

chapman

Beating DePaul does absolutely nothing for our metrics.  Beating Villanova and losing in the semis is probably the right side of the bubble but no guarantee.     

Windyplayer

Quote from: chapman on March 03, 2018, 09:29:22 PM
Beating DePaul does absolutely nothing for our metrics.  Beating Villanova and losing in the semis is probably the right side of the bubble but no guarantee.   
Haha, if we beat Nova, have a margarita and relax.

Otule's Glass Eye

#5
Need to beat Nova no matter what now to get in I believe. A win vs Providence might've been just enough to get them over the hump but beating DePaul doesn't help at all. Need to beat DePaul and Nova to get in unless some magic on the bubble happens and a bunch of bubble teams add a bad loss

Windyplayer

Quote from: Otule's Glass Eye on March 03, 2018, 09:38:34 PM
Need to beat Nova no matter what now yo get in I believe. A win vs Providence might've been just enough to get them over the hump but beating DePaul doesn't help at all. Need to beat DePaul and Nova to get in unless some magic on the bubble happens and a bunch of bubble teams add a bad loss
Is this just your unsubstantiated belief?

Otule's Glass Eye


MU82

Quote from: cschor on March 03, 2018, 09:14:10 PM
I know it didn't help a couple years ago but 20 is a magic number.

We heard for a month or more that 9-9 was the magic set of numbers.

(Not to be confused with 9-9-9, MUFINY's alter-ego.)
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

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Its DJOver

Quote from: MU82 on March 03, 2018, 09:47:26 PM
We heard for a month or more that 9-9 was the magic set of numbers.

(Not to be confused with 9-9-9, MUFINY's alter-ego.)
9-9 with a loss to DePaul is a lot different than 9-9 without a loss to DePaul. Trade that DePaul loss for any one of our wins and we're already in IMO
Scoop motto:
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

Anti-Dentite

I think it should but I don't know that it will.
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#UnleashSean

Quote from: chapman on March 03, 2018, 09:29:22 PM
Beating DePaul does absolutely nothing for our metrics.  Beating Villanova and losing in the semis is probably the right side of the bubble but no guarantee.   

IF we beat nova and dont get in at 20-13 there better be riots.

Its DJOver

Quote from: #UnleashRowsey on March 03, 2018, 09:53:39 PM
IF we beat nova and dont get in at 20-13 there better be riots.
I agree with this analysis.  Would be unheard of
Scoop motto:
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

MU82

Quote from: Its DJOver on March 03, 2018, 09:49:37 PM
9-9 with a loss to DePaul is a lot different than 9-9 without a loss to DePaul. Trade that DePaul loss for any one of our wins and we're already in IMO

I understand, but not sure our resident bracketologists made that distinction. Or if they did, I apologize cuz I missed it. It's all good, though. Shows it's far from an exact science.
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4everwarriors

Take it two da streets y'all, hey?
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Its DJOver

Quote from: MU82 on March 03, 2018, 09:59:08 PM
I understand, but not sure our resident bracketologists made that distinction. Or if they did, I apologize cuz I missed it. It's all good, though. Shows it's far from an exact science.
Agree, sure am glad lunardi and palm arnt on the comitee, based on the blind resume checks TAMU has been providing, i think 1-1 Will get us to Dayton
Scoop motto:
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

brewcity77

I think 1-1 gets us in, but barely. Probably playing in Dayton. Bid thieves could push us to the NIT. I think we need to play on Saturday to feel completely confident, but winning Wednesday is probably (66/34) enough.

Anti-Dentite

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 03, 2018, 10:15:52 PM
I think 1-1 gets us in, but barely. Probably playing in Dayton. Bid thieves could push us to the NIT. I think we need to play on Saturday to feel completely confident, but winning Wednesday is probably (66/34) enough.
I hope your right, to me it just feels like we did enough and should be in barring a disaster with Depaul.
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muguru

Quote from: Anti-Dentite on March 03, 2018, 10:29:00 PM
I hope your right, to me it just feels like we did enough and should be in barring a disaster with Depaul.

It's so maddening/frustrating to think that had they just beaten DePaul one week ago, we wouldn't be having this discussion..they'd be safely in.
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Anti-Dentite

Quote from: muguru on March 03, 2018, 10:31:14 PM
It's so maddening/frustrating to think that had they just beaten DePaul one week ago, we wouldn't be having this discussion..they'd be safely in.
I meant on Wednesday but point taken.
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TAMU, Knower of Ball

#20
Quote from: muguru on March 03, 2018, 10:31:14 PM
It's so maddening/frustrating to think that had they just beaten DePaul one week ago, we wouldn't be having this discussion..they'd be safely in.

I feel you...but we could have just as easily lost some of the tough games we won. Basketball is funny like that. According to T-Rank, it would be a bad idea to sub the DePaul loss for the win at Seton Hall. We are what our record is.

As for the original question. I think 1-1 is enough to be one of the 48 most tournament worthy teams in the country. Any bid stealers at all and it could/should push us to the NIT.

I do think the bracketologists will be historically inaccurate due to the rumored changes in the committee's selection process. Hopefully it's the kind of inaccurate that pushes up the S curve and not down it.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
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Its DJOver

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 03, 2018, 11:10:23 PM
I feel you...but we could have just as easily lost some of the tough games we won. Basketball is funny like that. According to T-Rank, it would be a bad idea to sub the DePaul loss for the win at Seton Hall.
I don't want to tell T rank it's wrong because I'm sure it knows more than me, but I would trade a Q1 win for a Q3 loss. Not many bubble teams have no Q3 losses pulling for them (I hope Georgia can get it together and get back to Q2)
Scoop motto:
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Its DJOver on March 03, 2018, 11:14:27 PM
I don't want to tell T rank it's wrong because I'm sure it knows more than me, but I would trade a Q1 win for a Q3 loss. Not many bubble teams have no Q3 losses pulling for them (I hope Georgia can get it together and get back to Q2)

Just look at the top 16 the committee put out earlier this year. They care about who you beat not who you lose to. You can't have multiple dreadful losses but they will look past one if you have a quality road win or a win over a top 10 team.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
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kryza

1-1 and we will be sweating on Sunday as we would be right on the bubble, we could go either way depending on what the committee values more this year.

Our RPI would be 58 and our SOS would be 25.

I think it would get us in because looking at other teams, I believe we have a better overall resume, but I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't.

Beating Villanova and then losing to SH/Butler pushes our RPI up to 49-53 which should make us a solid 11 seed imo.

Its DJOver

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 03, 2018, 11:18:18 PM
Just look at the top 16 the committee put out earlier this year. They care about who you beat not who you lose to. You can't have multiple dreadful losses but they will look past one if you have a quality road win or a win over a top 10 team.
As I said, T rank is probably right. Just based on what I think what make a better resume, no bad losses is better than one less good win. We'll see in just over a week
Scoop motto:
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

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