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Will we get a bid with a 1-1 finish in NY

Yes
94 (48%)
No
102 (52%)

Total Members Voted: 195

bilsu

1-1 with a close loss to Villanova will do it, if there are not bid stealers.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

I think 1-1 gets us to Dayton, but I'll be nervous on SS if that's what happens.
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

Spaniel with a Short Tail

Quote from: bilsu on March 04, 2018, 12:42:38 AM
1-1 with a close loss to Villanova will do it, if there are not bid stealers.

I partly agree with this but besides bid stealers there is the probability of fellow bubble teams outperforming us in their conference tourneys. I think that a DePaul win will have us IN, but that 2-3 fellow bubble teams will play further into their conference tourneys and by Saturday we will be pushed out if we go 1-1. I also think the Committee will try to avoid putting 7 out of 10 BE teams in the tourney if they have a legit reason to do so. 1-1 gives them that out.

4everwarriors

Losin' ta Dapal wood take da anxiety outta it, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

muguru

What's worse is, had MU beaten DePaul last weekend, they'd be comfortably in, AND have the #3 seed in the BET.  :-\
"Being realistic is the most common path to mediocrity." Will Smith

We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

rocky_warrior

Losing at DePaul was bad, but I think the 3 straight home losses a month ago was really the warriors problem...if there was a problem this season.

Jay Bee

Quote from: kryza on March 03, 2018, 11:20:33 PM
Our RPI would be 58 and our SOS would be 25.


***approximatelt/projected. So many games influence our RPI - don't know where it would land exactly... and 55 would sure look better than 60 a1na
The portal is NOT closed.

BallBoy

I think MU needs two. I thought there was an outside chance that had Seton Hall lost to Butler and then lost in the first round MU might be able to steal their or Friars' bid with a victory against Providence in the BET.

Now MU needs to do better in the tourney and steal one from another conference.

willie warrior

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 03, 2018, 10:15:52 PM
I think 1-1 gets us in, but barely. Probably playing in Dayton. Bid thieves could push us to the NIT. I think we need to play on Saturday to feel completely confident, but winning Wednesday is probably (66/34) enough.
A win over DePaul who is the bottom feeder of Beast does not get us in. On the other hand, a loss to DePaul, which we already have accomplished, should flush us right down the crapper.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

Windyplayer

Quote from: willie warrior on March 04, 2018, 08:55:12 AM
A win over DePaul who is the bottom feeder of Beast does not get us in. On the other hand, a loss to DePaul, which we already have accomplished, should flush us right down the crapper.
Your focus is on the wrong game.

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Quote from: willie warrior on March 04, 2018, 08:55:12 AM
A win over DePaul who is the bottom feeder of Beast does not get us in. On the other hand, a loss to DePaul, which we already have accomplished, should flush us right down the crapper.

But the committee has not begun debating the back end of the tournament field.  Technically MU is not "out" even if bracketologists have us there.

1-1 will have MU right on the Dayton/NIT cutline. So let's just win two.

brewcity77

Quote from: willie warrior on March 04, 2018, 08:55:12 AM
A win over DePaul who is the bottom feeder of Beast does not get us in. On the other hand, a loss to DePaul, which we already have accomplished, should flush us right down the crapper.

A win over DePaul also does not hurt us. Nor does a loss to Villanova hurt us. So if, like me, you believe Marquette is just inside the bubble, 1-1 will be enough to keep us there barring bid thieves.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: willie warrior on March 04, 2018, 08:55:12 AM
A win over DePaul who is the bottom feeder of Beast does not get us in. On the other hand, a loss to DePaul, which we already have accomplished, should flush us right down the crapper.

This is not how things works.
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

Windyplayer

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 04, 2018, 09:58:33 AM
A win over DePaul also does not hurt us. Nor does a loss to Villanova hurt us. So if, like me, you believe Marquette is just inside the bubble, 1-1 will be enough to keep us there barring bid thieves.
Exactly. We're toast if we lose to Providence or DePaul in the first game (and a win against either does not guarantee a berth [clearly with DePaul]) - so wouldn't you rather take the win against DePaul knowing that you still have a chance to dance losing to Nova. The reward in beating Providence is just not worth the the risk of losing.

muwarrior69

Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 04, 2018, 08:34:41 AM
Losing at DePaul was bad, but I think the 3 straight home losses a month ago was really the warriors problem...if there was a problem this season.

Defense.

MU82

Quote from: Windyplayer on March 04, 2018, 10:12:24 AM
Exactly. We're toast if we lose to Providence or DePaul in the first game (and a win against either does not guarantee a berth [clearly with DePaul]) - so wouldn't you rather take the win against DePaul knowing that you still have a chance to dance losing to Nova. The reward in beating Providence is just not worth the the risk of losing.

Doesn't matter now. DePaul it is. Speculating is silly (though it's what we do 83% of the time on Scoop).

We got this!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Dish

The home loss to Providence is the real thorn in MU's side right now.

muguru

Quote from: MUDish-Hagans Come On Down on March 04, 2018, 10:47:01 AM
The home loss to Providence is the real thorn in MU's side right now.

+1000 I absolutely agree with this...just like last year, losing at home to PC nearly cost them a bid...this year, it actually could.
"Being realistic is the most common path to mediocrity." Will Smith

We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

brewcity77

Quote from: MUDish-Hagans Come On Down on March 04, 2018, 10:47:01 AM
The home loss to Providence is the real thorn in MU's side right now.

Honestly...it's every loss equally. Any one win would have us safely in. Georgia, Providence, Butler, DePaul, St John's, any one and we'd be good.

willie warrior

lots of talk here about us beating DePaul and then what happens next. Beating them is not sure thing! Although it sure as hell should be.  DePaul?  The dregs of the conference.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

MU82

If we do beat DeP and then lose to Nova, I like to think there will be no kind of Selection Sunday watching party.

I remember one year that I was covering the Gophers, Clem & Co. invited the media, cheerleaders, alumni, etc ... and then they didn't get chosen. It was humiliating for poor Goldy.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

WarriorDad

"No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth."
— Plato

skianth16

This link is a couple years old, but it gives me some hope that even if we go 1-1, we'll still have a good shot at getting an at large bid. Some power 6 teams have gotten bids with 60+ RPIs in the past. Those are the exceptions to the rule, for sure, but at this point, I'll take it as a positive sign for us.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/bracketolgy-ncaa-tournament-rpi-numbers-to-know-through-the-years/

We R Final Four

Quote from: willie warrior on March 04, 2018, 08:55:12 AM
A win over DePaul who is the bottom feeder of Beast does not get us in. On the other hand, a loss to DePaul, which we already have accomplished, should flush us right down the crapper.
I'm pretty certain that everybody here understands that a loss to DePaul squashes our tourney bid, but thanks for setting that straight.

Windyplayer

Quote from: MU82 on March 04, 2018, 10:44:00 AM
Doesn't matter now. DePaul it is. Speculating is silly (though it's what we do 83% of the time on Scoop).

We got this!
It's not speculation. It's an argument.

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