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tower912

Let's talk about the freshmen.    All outside the top 100.   All have had to play big minutes.     There have been bad games, to be sure.    And I sincerely hope Cain and Elliot put on some muscle so that they can hold on to the ball next year.      But they have all worked hard on defense.    They have all scored timely baskets.   IMO, they have put to rest the notion that Wojo can't develop players, as anyone who has paid attention can clearly see that they have gotten better as the season has gone on.     I don't know if any of them are ever going to be superstars.    But they are the kind of class that a program needs.    All glue guys who fill a need and play without fear.     Well done, young men.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Herman Cain

Quote from: tower912 on March 03, 2018, 04:37:25 PM
Let's talk about the freshmen.    All outside the top 100.   All have had to play big minutes.     There have been bad games, to be sure.    And I sincerely hope Cain and Elliot put on some muscle so that they can hold on to the ball next year.      But they have all worked hard on defense.    They have all scored timely baskets.   IMO, they have put to rest the notion that Wojo can't develop players, as anyone who has paid attention can clearly see that they have gotten better as the season has gone on.     I don't know if any of them are ever going to be superstars.    But they are the kind of class that a program needs.    All glue guys who fill a need and play without fear.     Well done, young men.
Guys who can play defense at the Big East level are worth their weight in Gold. When Greg's thumb is fully healed we will be seeing a very impactful player.
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Smokin' Jae

IMO Cain and elliot are better finishers and stronger with the ball than both JJJ and Vander were as freshman. Not an indicator of what they will be but certainly of what they can be.

tower912

On the Dodd's board, Silver Warrior showed that Elliott's numbers compare well to Vander's freshman numbers.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

skianth16

Lots of upside for this class. These kids all play hard and seem to like playing defense,  a lot like the 3 amigos from the class of 09. I can't wait to see these guys in a few years.

jesmu84

Hmm..

Lots of people have said wojo hasn't demonstrated an ability to develop talent.

Questionable post

willie warrior

Quote from: tower912 on March 03, 2018, 04:37:25 PM
Let's talk about the freshmen.    All outside the top 100.   All have had to play big minutes.     There have been bad games, to be sure.    And I sincerely hope Cain and Elliot put on some muscle so that they can hold on to the ball next year.      But they have all worked hard on defense.    They have all scored timely baskets.   IMO, they have put to rest the notion that Wojo can't develop players, as anyone who has paid attention can clearly see that they have gotten better as the season has gone on.     I don't know if any of them are ever going to be superstars.    But they are the kind of class that a program needs.    All glue guys who fill a need and play without fear.     Well done, young men.
Cain will be a stud
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

jsglow

Here's another thing to add.  We know that Elliott and Cain are fast friends.  We also know that Markus is super tight with the Hausers.  These guys all like each other and that bodes well for them all wanting to play ball together for as long as possible.  All good.

nyg

With the addition of Morrow, Joey Hauser and a potential Top Tier grad point guard, the competition for playing time is going to be very interesting.  Elliott and Cain have both proved they can produce some quality BE minutes, and Theo is sort of a work in progress with potential.  Wojo has his players now all lined up, and again it should be very interesting come the fall.   

IrwinFletcher

Look at the improvement of the 3 freshmen Cain, Elliott and Theo.

How about the steps Sam has taken in the last 18 months.

Matt Heldt anyone?

Sacar has shown growth too and that redshirt year really helped him.

Kudos to the staff for making these kids better.

Mr. Sand-Knit

Agree with wverything but none of it matters unless we have a capable point guard and Howard is the farthest thing from that.  Rowseys shot making is huge but his ability to run the team cannot be understated.

Im guessing the "new" in the title is tongue in cheek?
Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.

tower912

Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on March 03, 2018, 04:55:21 PM
Agree with wverything

Im guessing the "new" in the title is tongue in cheek?

Typo.   It happens.    Fixed.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MUBigDance

Quote from: nyg on March 03, 2018, 04:45:30 PM
With the addition of Morrow, Joey Hauser and a potential Top Tier grad point guard, the competition for playing time is going to be very interesting.  Elliott and Cain have both proved they can produce some quality BE minutes, and Theo is sort of a work in progress with potential.  Wojo has his players now all lined up, and again it should be very interesting come the fall.

Maybe it's a good problem to have but something has to give. I'm tempted to start a poll: "whose most likely to be gone next year"....but that's a bit negative.

I just don't know the personalities, pressures, personal goals of these guys. Who is apt to look for minutes elsewhere?

I want all the frosh to stay. Sacar to stay. Morrow, bailey to join in. Heldt to finish, and even Froling to feel like he has a role to play. And of course Sam and Markus to own it and lead us.

But where will the minutes come from.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Herman Cain on March 03, 2018, 04:38:57 PM
Guys who can play defense at the Big East level are worth their weight in Gold. When Greg's thumb is fully healed we will be seeing a very impactful player.

I agree with this anaylsis


Quote from: willie warrior on March 03, 2018, 04:44:11 PM
Cain will be a stud

And this analysis
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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Its DJOver

There was a point with about 6 minutes left in the second half when we had three freshman in the game and I was totally fine with it.  Great growth as the year has progressed
Scoop motto:
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

PGsHeroes32

Love all 3.

Cain definitely has the highest ceiling in my opinion. He has potential to be the one of the guys as a upperclassman.

I think Greg will always be quality and if the healthy thumb and added muscle helps him handle the ball, will be fun.

Theo is the most fun to think about what he can be as a Junior and Senior. He's got the BE body no doubt. Big reason weve kept Delgado in check this year. Would love if he turned into a X type big man Reynolds/Farr and even Jones.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

NickelDimer

I love the freshman class. It's definitely the most "big east" class Wojo has recruited. Really hoping they stay together four years
No Finish Line

GB Warrior

Cain is going to be whatever he wants to be. He can be a role player - an expanded version of what he is this year. Or he can be one of the big boys, and as soon as next season. I've said it before: he can be a better version of JJJ, for as good as he was at the end.

4everwarriors

Quote from: tower912 on March 03, 2018, 04:56:24 PM
Typo.   It happens.    Fixed.
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Yeah, happens ta mee all da tyme two, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

T-Bone

Theo has had some really great in game learning moments with Wojo. A few games back the basket interference, and a foul call today.  Wojo saw him hang his head and immediately brought him under his wing.
I really think Theo will be a 10 and 10 guy by junior year. He's learning, but has the skills to get there.
I'm like a turtle, sometimes I get run over by a semi.

T-Bone

Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 03, 2018, 05:58:34 PM

Yeah, happens ta mee all da tyme two, hey?
Goddamn TYME machines. Eat a sack of dicks M&I!
I'm like a turtle, sometimes I get run over by a semi.

rocket surgeon

Eliot, with the exception of being a few inches taller than "grasshopper", can friggin sky!!  Looking forward to seeing this guy get old with Cain and the rest
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

willie warrior

Quote from: GB Warrior on March 03, 2018, 05:38:52 PM
Cain is going to be whatever he wants to be. He can be a role player - an expanded version of what he is this year. Or he can be one of the big boys, and as soon as next season. I've said it before: he can be a better version of JJJ, for as good as he was at the end.
cain will be better than JJJ
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

tower912

He understands his defensive responsibilities far better than JjJ did as a freshman.   His 3 pt shot is better.    JjJ was better going to the rack.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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