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#25
Quote from: MUDish on February 24, 2018, 01:01:22 PM
Completely don't understand Woj's approach today, and it most likely stuck a fork in MU's season. Guys have to hit shots, but Woj did not put his team in a position to win today.

going to be a hit to the rpi with this loss.

GGGG

Quote from: NickelDimer on February 24, 2018, 01:08:09 PM
We rebounded better the last two games while players no zone. Zone also would've meant less time with Howard and Rowsey on the floor together which is the right lineup for this team.

Again Wojo didn't even use the lineup that he used to build a lead. Coaching absolutely played a role


Not really.

But everyone needs a scapegoat.

94Warrior

#27
Wojo had this team completely unprepared to play today.
DePaul was horrible for much of the first half, and they still win hadily.

I was Wojo's biggest defender, but today he lost me.
Playing the midgets together early in the second half gave DePaul confidence. 

Outside of an 8 minute stretch in the first half, we were completely outplayed by a terrible team.  DePaul is embarrassing and we weren't even in their league today - in a must win game.

Season over!



Otule's Glass Eye

Thank god Rowsey is off the team after this year. Next year is make or break for Wojo. If there's no tournament appearance next year, then I want him gone. And I like Wojo a lot. How do we lose to DePaul with the season on the line? Unbelievable.

i71_dawg

#29
I am still hopeful for next season with an even more talented & experienced squad.

However 4 out of the last 5 years missing the tournament should never be close to acceptable at Marquette.  I don't care how much the cupboard was "left bare" when Wojo arrived.

Hell, even Mike Deane made the tournament in 2 out of his 5 years at least (I know he inherited a good amount of talent from KO's recruiting efforts).

I really hope MU fans don't attend any NIT games should they get a home game at the BC.  No reason to support a subpar season.  The last game anyone attends at the Bradley Center should be next Saturday against Creighton.

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NickelDimer

Quote from: #bansultan on February 24, 2018, 01:08:56 PM

Not really.

But everyone needs a scapegoat.
When you finally give up on Wojo I'll be around to remind you how late you were to wise up
No Finish Line

jesmu84

Quote from: wadesworld on February 24, 2018, 01:03:51 PM
Our defense gave up 70 points and maybe 8? of those were free throws while we were trying to extend the game. We gave up 37% shooting from the field to DePaul. The defense was not the issue.

We scored 62 points. And about 8 of those came after DePaul was conceding baskets.

The defense was not the issue.

Hmm...

jesmu84

Quote from: forgetful on February 24, 2018, 01:05:34 PM
Most of our fouls were during scrambles/put backs after offensive rebounds.  The zone would have made our rebounding even worse. 

It actually could have made our fouls increase in this game. 

We also had about 4 fouls called on clean blocks.  Those had nothing to do with zone or M2M. 

When we did play zone, Depaul got a lot of very easy buckets.  I think they shot 50%+ against the zone.  They shot around 35% against M2M.  Our defensive game plan was solid.

Depaul out fought us on the boards, and we couldn't make a shot to save our life. 

Blaming Wojo in this game is idiotic.

Interesting...

GGGG

Quote from: NickelDimer on February 24, 2018, 01:10:48 PM
When you finally give up on Wojo I'll be around to remind you how late you were to wise up


I've said that next year is the year and I'm not completely sold on him.

But today wasn't an example of poor coaching.

muguru

Quote from: NickelDimer on February 24, 2018, 01:10:48 PM
When you finally give up on Wojo I'll be around to remind you how late you were to wise up

He never will...because NEXT YEAR is THE year..Just ask him(and many others). If you can still support him after losing to a HS team with the season on the line..then you simply just don't get it.
"Being realistic is the most common path to mediocrity." Will Smith

We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

nyg

Yes, the team shot like carp and not one MU player showed up.
Losing this game will destroy its RPI out of bid range and now they must win the next two to even be close to consideration.  This is the one game they could not lose.  Depaul is terrible.

MU shot 8 for 27 from three.
Foul trouble again, 25 fouls to 12. Every game.....
Depaul made 23 for 32 free throws, MU was 6 for 9. 23 to 6.
Add that with offensive rebound difference and thats the ballgame.

As I said before, Depaul had 10 turnovers and 10 made baskets in first half and MU couldn't take advantage cause their offense sucked and turnovers. 10 and 10 is just unreal. 

Very disappointed as others, but this is just worst loss of year and will come back to haunt the team. 

denverMU

Quote from: #bansultan on February 24, 2018, 01:08:56 PM

Not really.

But everyone needs a scapegoat.
Not really what? It is factually accurate that we outrebounded the last 2 teams we played while playinf mostly zone.

WayOfTheWarrior

Quote from: 94Warrior on February 24, 2018, 01:09:17 PM
Wojo had this team completely unprepared to play today.
DePaul was horrible for much of the first half, and they still win hadily.

I was Wojo's biggest defender, but today he lost me.
Playing the midgets together early in the second half gave DePaul confidence. 

Outside of an 8 minute stretch in the first half, we were completely outplayed by a terrible team.  DePaul is embarrassing and we weren't even in their league today - in a must win game.

Season over!

Maybe for you, but we can still get in. If you have nice tickets for Saturday I'll take them off your hands.

GGGG

Quote from: denverMU on February 24, 2018, 01:14:02 PM
Not really what? It is factually accurate that we outrebounded the last 2 teams we played while playinf mostly zone.



That coaching was the problem.  It wasn't.

NickelDimer

Quote from: #bansultan on February 24, 2018, 01:13:01 PM

I've said that next year is the year and I'm not completely sold on him.

But today wasn't an example of poor coaching.
Ok. So he might be a poor coach (we'll know next year) but he might have coached well today. Got it
No Finish Line

Don_Kojis

It almost seems the team plays bettter with only one of the midgets in the game at a time.  I wonder what the team practices .  They can't seem to rebound , box out or dribble down court.

GGGG

Quote from: muguru on February 24, 2018, 01:13:10 PM
He never will...because NEXT YEAR is THE year..Just ask him(and many others). If you can still support him after losing to a HS team with the season on the line..then you simply just don't get it.


Can't be a loss without our resident Chicken Little showing up...

denverMU

Quote from: #bansultan on February 24, 2018, 01:15:37 PM

That coaching was the problem.  It wasn't.
You are exactly right, we lost to the worst team in the Big East today and the coach had nothing to do with it.

NickelDimer

Quote from: muwar2014@gmail.com on February 24, 2018, 01:16:51 PM
It almost seems the team plays bettter with only one of the midgets in the game at a time.  I wonder what the team practices .  They can't seem to rebound , box out or dribble down court.
You'd think the head coach would know this. It's like he wasn't there to witness the last two games. Just inexcusably unreal
No Finish Line

GGGG

Quote from: NickelDimer on February 24, 2018, 01:16:00 PM
Ok. So he might be a poor coach (we'll know next year) but he might have coached well today. Got it


No he's not a poor coach.  That would have been evident by now.  Maybe not good enough though.  Time will tell.


Floorslapper

Quote from: #bansultan on February 24, 2018, 01:04:18 PM
Some of you guys are just hopeless.  Remember the good ole times of three days ago when everyone thought no Markus wasn't a bad thing?

Well...

Clearly Wojo cannot be left to his own devices.  The midget ball M2M formula does not work. Period.  No Markus was a good thing because it saved Wojo from Wojo.  Simple as that.

It's a bad thing when the head coach can't figure out his team is out=athleticed at every position and insists on playing M2M.

GGGG

Quote from: denverMU on February 24, 2018, 01:17:48 PM
You are exactly right, we lost to the worst team in the Big East today and the coach had nothing to do with it.


Well he put together an incomplete roster that is too reliant on the outside shot.  That's on him.

But outside of that?  Nah.  If the players don't hit shots there's not much a coach can do.


CTWarrior

#47
We stunk today.  Ultimately the coach is responsible.  The offense was more of a problem than the defense.  We shot poorly mostly because we were taking tough shots.  Not enough ball movement.  We only missed 4 or 5 in rhythm 3s.  We were taking forced, not squared up 3s quite a bit.

The other thing is that other than Sacar, our satellite players got very tentative when we fell behind.  They have to take their shots and look to score when they get the ball.

The only thing I really hated that he did was the stretch with Hauser playing center.  We did poorly with that and he came back with it after a timeout.
Calvin:  I'm a genius.  But I'm a misunderstood genius. 
Hobbes:  What's misunderstood about you?
Calvin:  Nobody thinks I'm a genius.

GGGG

Quote from: Floorslapper on February 24, 2018, 01:20:16 PM
Clearly Wojo cannot be left to his own devices.  The midget ball M2M formula does not work. Period.  No Markus was a good thing because it saved Wojo from Wojo.  Simple as that.


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!  But you dunked in high school right???

wadesworld

Quote from: Floorslapper on February 24, 2018, 01:20:16 PM
Clearly Wojo cannot be left to his own devices.  The midget ball M2M formula does not work. Period.  No Markus was a good thing because it saved Wojo from Wojo.  Simple as that.

It's a bad thing when the head coach can't figure out his team is out=athleticed at every position and insists on playing M2M.

Do you thought the defense was the issue?

Awesome. Some things never change.

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