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PGsHeroes32

But this was just a horrendous coaching job by Wojo.

Rowsey chucking was abysmal as well but Wojo is mind boggling today.

Next year is the year but I'd love an explanation on this.

Season crippler
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

DJO's Jaw

#1
What do you want Wojo to do? We're likely going to hold them below 70 points, but we couldn't buy a basket. We're not going to win many games when we shoot this poorly.

denverMU

I agree 1000%' I take all the credit I gave to Wojo for being adaptable.  We won 2 games playing zone, we have an injured guard, Rowsey gets 2 fouls in 2 minutes, and he keeps playing M2M.  This is all on him.

Aughnanure

Quote from: DJO's Jaw on February 24, 2018, 12:52:55 PM
What do you want Wojo to do? We're likely going to hold them below 70 points, but couldn't buy a basket.

Uhh, maybe have a better offensive approach? Or adjust? Or stop having Rowsey chuck? Seriously, how can all blame always be deflected away from him?
“All men dream; but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act out their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible.” - T.E. Lawrence

NickelDimer

Everything that allowed us to win the last two games Wojo went away from today. Hell the lineup that built a first half lead wasn't even used in the second half.
No Finish Line

denverMU

Quote from: DJO's Jaw on February 24, 2018, 12:52:55 PM
What do you want Wojo to do? We're likely going to hold them below 70 points, but couldn't buy a basket.
Play a fucking zone and DePaul doesn't get 26 free throws

DJO's Jaw

How would playing a zone help the offense or the rebounding?

wadesworld

People really think the defense was the issue? Lol.

mugrack


NickelDimer

Quote from: wadesworld on February 24, 2018, 12:58:40 PM
People really think the defense was the issue? Lol.
You do realize not being able to defend without  fouling is a problem right?
No Finish Line

Dish

Completely don't understand Woj's approach today, and it most likely stuck a fork in MU's season. Guys have to hit shots, but Woj did not put his team in a position to win today.

denverMU

Quote from: wadesworld on February 24, 2018, 12:58:40 PM
People really think the defense was the issue? Lol.
Yes, because our shitty M2M caused our bad rebounding, all the fouls(which allowed DePaul to score so many points from the line)

denverMU

Quote from: DJO's Jaw on February 24, 2018, 12:57:43 PM
How would playing a zone help the offense or the rebounding?
Check the stats the last 2 games, we rebound better when we play zone.

NickelDimer

Wojo wasn't even smart enough to use the lineup in the second half that got him the lead in the first half. I mean it's embarrassing
No Finish Line

Ellenson Guerrero

How does Rowsey not realize that we're a much better team when he's driving and distributing than when he goes into chuck mode?  Why wasn't Wojo able to get any control over the bad shots in the second half?  Just sad.
"What we take for-granted, others pray for..." - Brent Williams 3/30/14

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: wadesworld on February 24, 2018, 12:58:40 PM
People really think the defense was the issue? Lol.

There were a lot of issues today and no adjustments

1 game but Wojo was baaaaaad today
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

wadesworld

Our defense gave up 70 points and maybe 8? of those were free throws while we were trying to extend the game. We gave up 37% shooting from the field to DePaul. The defense was not the issue.

We scored 62 points. And about 8 of those came after DePaul was conceding baskets.

The defense was not the issue.

GGGG

Some of you guys are just hopeless.  Remember the good ole times of three days ago when everyone thought no Markus wasn't a bad thing?

Well...

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: Ellenson Guerrero on February 24, 2018, 01:03:26 PM
How does Rowsey not realize that we're a much better team when he's driving and distributing than when he goes into chuck mode?  Why wasn't Wojo able to get any control over the bad shots in the second half?  Just sad.

Rowsey is what he is.

This years team needs his jekyl and Hyde play.

But next year with bodies we will be considerably better without him
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

NickelDimer

Quote from: denverMU on February 24, 2018, 01:03:08 PM
Check the stats the last 2 games, we rebound better when we play zone.
Correct
No Finish Line

wadesworld

Quote from: NickelDimer on February 24, 2018, 12:59:50 PM
You do realize not being able to defend without  fouling is a problem right?

I'm not sure being in a zone stops Rowsey from reaching in on a rebounder or from grabbing someone on a fast break. Other than that Sacar got into foul trouble in the second half after being a non factor all game.

forgetful

Quote from: NickelDimer on February 24, 2018, 12:59:50 PM
You do realize not being able to defend without  fouling is a problem right?

Most of our fouls were during scrambles/put backs after offensive rebounds.  The zone would have made our rebounding even worse. 

It actually could have made our fouls increase in this game. 

We also had about 4 fouls called on clean blocks.  Those had nothing to do with zone or M2M. 

When we did play zone, Depaul got a lot of very easy buckets.  I think they shot 50%+ against the zone.  They shot around 35% against M2M.  Our defensive game plan was solid.

Depaul out fought us on the boards, and we couldn't make a shot to save our life. 

Blaming Wojo in this game is idiotic.

nyg

The defense against Depaul getting offensive rebounds were. 

Depaul 49 rebounds  19 offensive
MU       30 rebounds   6 offensive

GGGG

Quote from: wadesworld on February 24, 2018, 01:03:51 PM
Our defense gave up 70 points and maybe 8? of those were free throws while we were trying to extend the game. We gave up 37% shooting from the field to DePaul. The defense was not the issue.

We scored 62 points. And about 8 of those came after DePaul was conceding baskets.

The defense was not the issue.


Exactly.  The same old whiners and complainers are blaming it on the coach when the team shot like sh*t. 

It's really unbelievable. 

EDIT:  Actually it is completely believable. 

NickelDimer

#24
Quote from: forgetful on February 24, 2018, 01:05:34 PM
Most of our fouls were during scrambles/put backs after offensive rebounds.  The zone would have made our rebounding even worse. 

It actually could have made our fouls increase in this game. 

We also had about 4 fouls called on clean blocks.  Those had nothing to do with zone or M2M. 

When we did play zone, Depaul got a lot of very easy buckets.  I think they shot 50%+ against the zone.  They shot around 35% against M2M.  Our defensive game plan was solid.

Depaul out fought us on the boards, and we couldn't make a shot to save our life. 

Blaming Wojo in this game is idiotic.
We rebounded better the last two games while we played zone. Zone also would've meant less time with Howard and Rowsey on the floor together which is the right lineup for this team.

Again Wojo didn't even use the lineup in the 2nd half that he used to build a lead in the 1st.  Coaching absolutely played a role
No Finish Line

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