I’m not calling for his head

[WarriorDad]

If you would have told me before the game we hold Depaul to 37% shooting, 17% 3 point shooting, and under 72 points I would have taken it.

Defense had some issues here and there, but this was a terrible offensive game from the opening tip.  FT disparity partly on our style of play, but the refs were avg at best.

Rebounding.  30 to 49.  How many possessions did they have 3 or 4 rebounds?  A frustrating day.

[PGsHeroes32]

I felt this for awhile. The team offense disappears when Markus is in the game. This game became a three point chucking contest instead of looking for good shots.

Today it was Rowsey not Markus.

We got a lead at half with just Markus.

Then the Rowsey chuck came.

I think that first one early in the second half was from 50 feet

[muhoops1]

My son heard Wojo scream "F'ing predictable" in the tunnel.  Do you think Coach has an account on Scoop!

[Class71]

When I read this board it appears that folks are split into two separate distinct realities concerning Wojo  that will all be clarified next year. You see some experts on this board say it takes 5 years to assess a coach. Well Wojo is going nowhere so we will find out.

What I do know is Wojo can not coach Rowsey consistently. Wojo understands the problem as he has said many times we win when Rowsey distributes. Well did Rowsey distribute today, did he stay out of foul trouble, did he protect the ball?

Interesting we win games when we drive the ball and take open 3's. When we do not play hero ball. When we play as a team. Yes we did not block out and we did not rebound. It is a contributing factor but when our splash heros do not hit their shots they also simply forget the other aspects of the game. I believe Wojo is spot on that we lack maturity. But it is not the Freshman who are the problem.

Next year will be better but please someone help us if we do not find a team oriented point guard. Please Wojo no more hero ball for me.

[Floorslapper]

What game plan did we use when we beat Seton Hall by 20, or UW by 20, or battled #1 Nova to the wire? 

You are self-proclaiming two games as "our best" of the year, because it suits your argument, and in the process throwing out a season of data. 

You throw out games like Howard single handily winning the game for us @Providence by scoring 52, and instead focus on a short series of games where he was struggling, to justify an argument of us being better without Howard.  Those are all invalid approaches, and display extreme bias from the reality of the data.

We win when we shoot well.  We lose when we struggle to score.

We beat Depaul by 18 the first time, because we out rebounded them, using the same game plan as tonight. 

We couldn't score, and we couldn't rebound in this game.  We played great defense.  That is the reality.

Stop Maric/Strauss from combining for 9 offensive rebounds and we win this game too.  Heldt/Theo grab a few offensive rebounds of their own, and we win by 10.

Beating Wisconsin is no great feat this year dude.  We haven't beaten a Top 30 Pomeroy team all year.  Here's a season of data you should chew on:  We suck in M2M defense with the Howard/Rowsey lineup.  We give teams 25+ trips to FT line every game while in your great formula.  WE are generally outsized and outathletic-ed at every position, and our coach INSISTS on playing M2M.

Rebounding is part of playing defense, and yes, we were abysmal in rebounding today.  Yet somehow we managed to outrebound Creighton and St Johns will playing 65-70% zone D.  When you are consistently at a disadvantage athletically in M2M D, you are generally trailing the overall possession, which in turn creates challenges for defensive rebounding.

[PGsHeroes32]

When I read this board it appears that folks are split into two separate distinct realities concerning Wojo  that will all be clarified next year. You see some experts on this board say it takes 5 years to assess a coach. Well Wojo is going nowhere so we will find out.

What I do know is Wojo can not coach Rowsey consistently. Wojo understands the problem as he has said many times we win when Rowsey distributes. Well did Rowsey distribute today, did he stay out of foul trouble, did he protect the ball?

Interesting we win games when we drive the ball and take open 3's. When we do not play hero ball. When we play as a team. Yes we did not block out and we did not rebound. It is a contributing factor but when our splash heros doe not hit their shots they also simply forget the other aspects of the game. I believe Wojo is spot on that we lack maturity. But it is not the Freshman who are the problem.

Next year will be better but please someone help us if we do not find a team oriented point guard. Please Wojo no more hero ball for me.

I'm in the middle camp.

Today his coaching/adjustments were terrible.

Have thought other days he's been great.

Next year he will have a squad. Gonna have to prove the haters or the backers wrongs

Hopefully it's the haters

[WarriorDad]

It would not be such a bad thing if Wojo got caught up in the NCAA scandal ... would help the university save face and move on more quickly from this disaster of a coach.

This is so ridiculous on every possible ridiculous level.

[WarriorDad]

You've got to be kidding me, right sultan?

You have a formula that's won the past two games -1 midget and zone defense (for the majority).

You go away from that in the second half with mostly Roawey/Howard in at the same time...and you lose.

That's NOT ON WOJO? How do you NOT play Cain more? Sacar and Sam looked worse with those TWO BOTH ON THE FLOOR.

Dumb take. Wojo's fault today. Seat is hot next year and I'm the last person that wants that.

Defense was the issue today?  Not the game I attended.  Rebounding was. Zone defenses are killer in rebounding and we already were being blown out on the glass.

[GGGG]

I count DR in defense. John and Cain getting 6 total minutes in the 2nd half and Froling playing zero minutes is weird when we are getting killed on the defensive boards.

Also, after we had crawled back into the game, ran a Sacar ISO out of the time out, which was also weird.

He ran Sacar isos v. both Creighton and SJU and they both resulted in baskets.

[WayOfTheWarrior]

Would've like to have seen more Theo. Not sure if that was a foul thing or not. Heldt was only one without a TO today though.

Chalking it up mostly to an abysmal shooting and rebounding day, but some of Wojo's 2nd half lineup choices did frustrate me. Worst loss on the resume, but losing to DePaul isn't an automatic nuclear bomb to your season as some people are irrationally spouting off. A steep uphill battle to the tourney, we'll see how it plays out.

[NickelDimer]

Defense was the issue today?  Not the game I attended.  Rebounding was. Zone defenses are killer in rebounding and we already were being blown out on the glass.

Defensive rebounding is part of defense. We can't play man without fouling and got killed in the FT margin. And again our rebounding stats in zone are why we won the rebounding battle the last two games

[Silkk the Shaka]

We rebounded better the last two games while we played zone. Zone also would've meant less time with Howard and Rowsey on the floor together which is the right lineup for this team.

Again Wojo didn't even use the lineup in the 2nd half that he used to build a lead in the 1st.  Coaching absolutely played a role

Missed the game, what lineup was it?

[Mutaman]

Small signs of life followed by laying a big egg has been a trademark of the Wojo era. Very similar to Kidd's tenure with the Bucks.

[MUDPT]

He ran Sacar isos v. both Creighton and SJU and they both resulted in baskets.

That creighton "ISO" you are thinking of, was a designed drive and kick.

[NickelDimer]

Missed the game, what lineup was it?

Howard, GE, Sam and a mix of Cain/Anim and Theo/Heldt

[WarriorDad]

Defensive rebounding is part of defense. We can't play man without fouling and got killed in the FT margin. And again our rebounding stats in zone are why we win the rebounding battle the last two games

Rebounding is about 50-50 balls.  Defense is preventing shots, forcing bad shots, forcing turnovers.  Once the ball hits the rim, that is 50-50 time, we've done our job defensively now secure the loose ball.  We were terrible at it today, at times the refs let Depaul get away some stuff, but overall terrible. 

Bad loss.  Bad team loss.

[Mr. Nielsen]

I really hope MU fans don't attend any NIT games should they get a home game at the BC. 

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[The Lens]

I'm on the Blue & Gold Shuttle, not a lot of blue & gold colored glasses here.

[NickelDimer]

That creighton "ISO" you are thinking of, was a designed drive and kick.

I'd also add if you're going to iso Anim you have him drive paint where he's 1000x better not baseline

[nyg]

Howard, GE, Sam and a mix of Cain/Anim and Theo/Heldt

Cain played 7 minutes total....Today was small, small ball. 

[Lennys Tap]

Rebounding is about 50-50 balls.  Defense is preventing shots, forcing bad shots, forcing turnovers.  Once the ball hits the rim, that is 50-50 time, we've done our job defensively now secure the loose ball.  We were terrible at it today, at times the refs let Depaul get away some stuff, but overall terrible. 

Bad loss.  Bad team loss.

Far cry from chokin' dogs peein' down our legs, a'ina?

[GooooMarquette]

What game plan did we use when we beat Seton Hall by 20, or UW by 20, or battled #1 Nova to the wire? 

You are self-proclaiming two games as "our best" of the year, because it suits your argument, and in the process throwing out a season of data. 

You throw out games like Howard single handily winning the game for us @Providence by scoring 52, and instead focus on a short series of games where he was struggling, to justify an argument of us being better without Howard.  Those are all invalid approaches, and display extreme bias from the reality of the data.

We win when we shoot well.  We lose when we struggle to score.

We beat Depaul by 18 the first time, because we out rebounded them, using the same game plan as tonight. 

We couldn't score, and we couldn't rebound in this game.  We played great defense.  That is the reality.

Stop Maric/Strauss from combining for 9 offensive rebounds and we win this game too.  Heldt/Theo grab a few offensive rebounds of their own, and we win by 10.

Agreed.  Our poor shooting certainly contributed, and we got absolutely destroyed on the boards.  49-30?  19 offensive boards for DP?  That's more than double their season average.  Woof!

As for our defense...we held DP to 37%.  That would have been good enough to win if we had just kept them off the offensive glass.

[WarriorHal]

Losing Cheatham -- a 6'5" starting guard -- after 5 games had a devastating ripple effect on the team.

It led to the imbalanced lineup -- two small guards who are scorers, not distributors -- playing at the same time. Cheatham was also a much better defender than either Rowsey or Howard. And it forced Elliott to play a lot more than he otherwise would have. That's probably a good thing in the long-run, but didn't help our win-loss record this season.

I think a lot of folks have already forgotten that our back court should have mainly been Cheatham & Howard with Rowsey & to a lesser extent Elliott off the bench.

[skianth16]

Small signs of life followed by laying a big egg has been a trademark of the Wojo era. Very similar to Kidd's tenure with the Bucks.

We do seem to have big swings lately. Why is that? How can this team beat Creighton on the road and then play some badly against Depaul? Weird team to root for. Lots of ups and downs.

[GGGG]

Losing Cheatham -- a 6'5" starting guard -- after 5 games had a devastating ripple effect on the team.

It led to the imbalanced lineup -- two small guards who are scorers, not distributors -- playing at the same time. Cheatham was also a much better defender than either Rowsey or Howard. And it forced Elliott to play a lot more than he otherwise would have. That's probably a good thing in the long-run, but didn't help our win-loss record this season.

I think a lot of folks have already forgotten that our back court should have mainly been Cheatham & Howard with Rowsey & to a lesser extent Elliott off the bench.

Cheatham, Howard and Rowsey were all starting at the beginning of the year.  Anim is the one who is starting now that Cheatham is gone.