Froling?

[jesmu84]

D1 sports are full of guys and gals who are tremendous practice players who have a hard time converting their good practice results into actual games. Some gain confidence and improve in the games, others never do. It is up to their coaches to figure out if it is the former or the latter. Sometimes there are highly coachable kids ,like Derrick Wilson, who can fool multiple sets of coaches to keep giving them chances with their great work ethic and practices.

Wow. Classy

[1SE]

Maybe Wojo is just letting him get a taste of the bench and some DNPs, see if he wants to sign up for a full year of that?

Regardless, Wojo definitely had no idea what he had in Harry and I'm surprised he put him on this crazy of a rollercoaster ride.

Wasn't the main reason he transferred out of SMU lack of pt? Is Wojo playing some kind games to get him to transfer out st end of season and open up a scholly?

[jsglow]

Here we go with 'mind games' again.  Harry didn't play because at no moment would his insertion into the lineup have enhanced our chance to win.  And while 'player development' has its place in any program, it doesn't at this time of the year.  Matty and Theo have nailed down first and second team.  If Harry is unhappy with that fact, we haven't seen him express it and he has remained a good teammate as far as we can tell. 

Harry has two choices.  Improve until he finds a way to contribute (which might be over the summer here in MKE) or make the decision that the pastures are greener elsewhere.  I hope he commits himself to getting more productive but if he can't see any path to playing time here with Marquette, he'll have options.  And so it goes.  This isn't grade school soccer with participation trophies.  Carry on.

[79Warrior]

Wojo and the staff took a chance with Harry, after all players with his size are tough to get. Unfortunately, it is beginning to appear he may not have the skill set for BE play. He does seem to like the team and is engaged on the bench. Harry will decide for himself if he wants to try and improve and fight for minutes or move on. Right now he is option 3 for sure behind Matt and Theo.

[Loose Cannon]

D1 sports are full of guys and gals who are tremendous practice players who have a hard time converting their good practice results into actual games. Some gain confidence and improve in the games, others never do. It is up to their coaches to figure out if it is the former or the latter. Sometimes there are highly coachable kids ,like Derrick Wilson, who can fool multiple sets of coaches to keep giving them chances with their great work ethic and practices.

I like to think you're Highly Coachable.

[tower912]

He has shown otherwise.   

[Big Papi]

I think Harry has a good chance to be a solid player the next 2 years.  He went through a huge body transformation within the last year and then had to miss the first part of the season.  He shows potential but seems just a little off.  His lack of endurance has been a factor and now we are in must win mode so minutes will be limited from here on out.  I fully expect a much improved player next year who will make a positive impact and take Heldt's minutes at a minimum.  I think he could be the perfect complementary front court player the next 2 years.     

[Loose Cannon]

He has shown otherwise.   

It was not meant to compliment.

[tower912]

My concern about Harry is not whether or not he will improve.   He will.    The question is where does he find minutes on next year's team.   

[tower912]

It was not meant to compliment.

I know.   Neither was mine. 

[Loose Cannon]

I know.   Neither was mine.

Thanks.

[Big Papi]

My concern about Harry is not whether or not he will improve.   He will.    The question is where does he find minutes on next year's team.

Morrow and Joey Hauser are the only 2 newcomers that will see minutes next year and Joey might be less then most think.  Ike is not getting off the bench and Bailey has too many players in front of him.  Harry at 6'11" will see time on the floor if he sticks around.

His minutes can come from Heldt's minutes and an overall decrease in minutes from the starters.  Not much of a decrease but there is 10-15 minutes there to be had.


 

[skianth16]

Here we go with 'mind games' again.  Harry didn't play because at no moment would his insertion into the lineup have enhanced our chance to win.  And while 'player development' has its place in any program, it doesn't at this time of the year.  Matty and Theo have nailed down first and second team.  If Harry is unhappy with that fact, we haven't seen him express it and he has remained a good teammate as far as we can tell. 

I agree with that assessment. Unfortunately, this isn't baseball, where you can keep a left hander around to throw against 2 guys a game and then sit him. If we have a player on our team that we can't put into games, the coaches really need to figure out how to address that problem. And then Harry is going to need to put in the same kind of work on changing his game this summer as he did into changing his body last summer. It's a tall task, but it's possible. Going with 2 bigs this year has had some nice results, so let's hope we can look to do some of that next year as well.

[jsglow]

I agree with that assessment. Unfortunately, this isn't baseball, where you can keep a left hander around to throw against 2 guys a game and then sit him. If we have a player on our team that we can't put into games, the coaches really need to figure out how to address that problem. And then Harry is going to need to put in the same kind of work on changing his game this summer as he did into changing his body last summer. It's a tall task, but it's possible. Going with 2 bigs this year has had some nice results, so let's hope we can look to do some of that next year as well.

I think we agree.  And in this day and age, when you can get a 'big' into the program, you take it.  Harry transformed his body last year.  If he wants to play reasonable minutes next year at Marquette, he's going to have to elevate his game the same way.  If he thinks he can't, he'll likely consider other options.  For HIS sake, I hope he has a real heart to heart with Wojo when the season ends.  I trust coach will tell him the truth as he sees it.  Harry needs to not waste any time.  So IF he were to decide to look elsewhere, Spring '18 is the right time.  Two years of PT left.

All that said, he seems to be a great kid willing to work so I want him to stick around and earn his minutes.

[drewm88]

I feel like we're all jumping to conclusions too much here. Froling is not a finished product. He's been on campus for about 14 months and playing real games for 2 of those.

[Newsdreams]

No doubt 78% is good. 
However it got lame imo his senior year when the crowd is chanting automatic and ur making 3 out of 4

LOL, only 3 out of 4?

[Newsdreams]

Wasn't the main reason he transferred out of SMU lack of pt? Is Wojo playing some kind games to get him to transfer out st end of season and open up a scholly?

Not really only pt. There was a coaching change they convinced him to stay. Was not happy how he was being developed. He has said the developing, facilities and staff are way better than SMU. Guess will have to wait.

[Newsdreams]

Morrow and Joey Hauser are the only 2 newcomers that will see minutes next year and Joey might be less then most think.  Ike is not getting off the bench and Bailey has too many players in front of him.  Harry at 6'11" will see time on the floor if he sticks around.

His minutes can come from Heldt's minutes and an overall decrease in minutes from the starters.  Not much of a decrease but there is 10-15 minutes there to be had.

I don't know, if he is heathy and as good as those on the know say, he can come in for either Sam or Morrow, so there will be minutes for him.

[Dish]

Is curious that he went from starting a few weeks ago to the following:

@SJU   11 mins
@ Creighton  6 mins
SJU  DNP-CD

It's almost a two week stretch in real time, if he was hurt I'd guess we'd have heard by now.

DPU  DNP-CD

I wouldn't be shocked at this point if he's done at MU.

[CTWarrior]

DPU  DNP-CD

I wouldn't be shocked at this point if he's done at MU.

Yup.  DePaul's size caused us issues today.  He may have helped a little for a brief time today.

[GooooMarquette]

DPU  DNP-CD

I wouldn't be shocked at this point if he's done at MU.

I was thinking the same thing.

[Don_Kojis]

Does any think Harry is homesick and told Wojo he is leaving?

[forgetful]

Does any think Harry is homesick and told Wojo he is leaving?

I've wondered the same thing. 

Something else is going on.  He is our best rebounder, and in a game when we need rebounds above all else, he was glued to the bench. 

[Warrior1969]

He is HORRIBLE, adios....get someone better.  I would rather have Sam Hauser at the 5 next year then him

[nyg]

Wasn't Sandy Cohen in the same situation?  Was parked on bench after poor play and never got back in games.