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MattyWarrior

Whose coaching up the big men on our roster, Stan?

SaveOD238

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on February 22, 2018, 12:47:50 AM
Davante was never this good. His season best FT% was 83.5%. Very good, elite for a big man. But Matt would school him in a free throw shooting contest.

Sample size matta.  The Ox attempted 544 free throws in four years.  In three years, Matt has been to the line 70 times.  He also only shot in the 50s each of the last two years.

rocket surgeon

Theo saw Froling and said, that's what I don't want to do, put me in coach, I'm ready to play eyna?
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

jsglow

Harry has a lot of work to do to become a meaningful contributor next year.  And the bench will get longer, not shorter.

Norm

My guess is Davant took way more FTs than Heldt does.

79Warrior

Quote from: jsglow on February 22, 2018, 06:13:18 AM
Harry has a lot of work to do to become a meaningful contributor next year.  And the bench will get longer, not shorter.

Agree. He minutes are very limited now and next year it will be much tougher.

jsglow

Quote from: Norm on February 22, 2018, 06:41:45 AM
My guess is Davant took way more FTs than Heldt does.

Absolutely.  But it's not like Matty has 15 attempts this year.  In end game situations on an inbound, I sure don't mind the ball going into his hands if the 5 second clock is winding down.  For a Center, he's one helluva free throw shooter.

Just for a moment think back a mere 24 months.  Honestly, has any MU player improved his overall game more?  Personally, I think not.

Daniel

Quote from: jsglow on February 22, 2018, 06:13:18 AM
Harry has a lot of work to do to become a meaningful contributor next year.  And the bench will get longer, not shorter.

Yes it will be tough. He was not an obvious impact player when he became elegibility.   Like was more so by far..  next year you have senior Matt, sophomore Theo and Eke in the mix, as well as Morrow and Bailey at the 4 with Sacar, Joey etc.  Lot of traffic where he plays....

GGGG

Quote from: jsglow on February 22, 2018, 09:25:59 AM
Absolutely.  But it's not like Matty has 15 attempts this year.  In end game situations on an inbound, I sure don't mind the ball going into his hands if the 5 second clock is winding down.  For a Center, he's one helluva free throw shooter.

Just for a moment think back a mere 24 months.  Honestly, has any MU player improved his overall game more?  Personally, I think not.


To be fair, there's only two current players on the roster who were eligible 24 months ago.  The other is Sacar, who has obviously improved as well.

jsglow

Quote from: #bansultan on February 22, 2018, 09:33:45 AM

To be fair, there's only two current players on the roster who were eligible 24 months ago.  The other is Sacar, who has obviously improved as well.

True dat.  I'm just thinking back to his getting 4 fouls on 4 screens on his 4 trips down the court.   :)

StillWarriors

Quote from: AZMarqfan on February 21, 2018, 11:56:34 PM
However, in December there was nothing to indicate Theo John would come on this strong.

This is a very good point. We were desperate for another big because Theo's foul rate was such that it certainly looked likely that we wouldn't even have enough big bodies to fill the minutes in conference play. Despite his underperforming expectations by quite a bit, Froling has still filled a void at times that might have cost us a game or two along the way, and at this point with where we stand, every W is huge.

jesmu84

A lot of incorrect recent posts here as wojo and staff are poor at developing players

DCHoopster

Quote from: jsglow on February 22, 2018, 09:25:59 AM
Absolutely.  But it's not like Matty has 15 attempts this year.  In end game situations on an inbound, I sure don't mind the ball going into his hands if the 5 second clock is winding down.  For a Center, he's one helluva free throw shooter.

Just for a moment think back a mere 24 months.  Honestly, has any MU player improved his overall game more?  Personally, I think not.

My question about Matt is.  He has proven he can shoot free throws, why not set a play up for him at the free throw line for an open shot.  I would believe he would
be wide open, take advantage of his strength.  Matt is a great complimentary player, sets picks, rebounds, and does what he is asked to do.  Like his movement on
the zone.  Great teammate!

Markusquette

Quote from: DCHoopster on February 22, 2018, 10:29:26 AM
My question about Matt is.  He has proven he can shoot free throws, why not set a play up for him at the free throw line for an open shot.  I would believe he would
be wide open, take advantage of his strength.  Matt is a great complimentary player, sets picks, rebounds, and does what he is asked to do.  Like his movement on
the zone.  Great teammate!

Was just about to post something similar. He's always been a decent shooter. Would be nice to add a pick and pop to his game .

MuMark


willie warrior

Quote from: jsglow on February 22, 2018, 06:13:18 AM
Harry has a lot of work to do to become a meaningful contributor next year.  And the bench will get longer, not shorter.
There is that. Right now, Theo and matt are playing much better than Froling. Think Froling has the talent, but difficult to manage those minutes between those 3.
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GooooMarquette

Quote from: jsglow on February 22, 2018, 06:13:18 AM
Harry has a lot of work to do to become a meaningful contributor next year.  And the bench will get longer, not shorter.

Yep.  Maybe he will be ahead of Eke, but without some pretty dramatic improvement, I seriously doubt Harry will be ahead of Matt, Theo or Ed.

Its DJOver

I think that Froling's second biggest problem right now (behind his lack of lateral quickness) is his confidence.  He doesn't have any, and in this stretch of crucial games, he's not gonna get enough minutes to get any back.  If we would have scheduled a buy game in Feb. like Creighton, and given him 25 minutes in that and give him a green light, he'd probably score 10-12 points, and even if it took a ton of shots, we'd still win and he'd get some confidence.  I still maintain that he should get another summer, plus the entire non conference schedule next year before passing judgement on him.
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Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

warriorchick

Quote from: Markusquette on February 22, 2018, 10:32:38 AM
Was just about to post something similar. He's always been a decent shooter. Would be nice to add a pick and pop to his game .

A free throw is not the same thing  as a 15-foot pick and pop jumper.
Have some patience, FFS.

jaygall31

Quote from: chapman on February 21, 2018, 10:29:54 PM
Matt also has one of the strangest stats of the season: after dropping in a pair tonight, he's 24-27 (89%) from the line.
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Stretchdeltsig

Quote from: GooooMarquette on February 22, 2018, 12:36:37 PM
Yep.  Maybe he will be ahead of Eke, but without some pretty dramatic improvement, I seriously doubt Harry will be ahead of Matt, Theo or Ed.
Wait until you see 6'9" Joey next year.  He is highly talented.

Mr. Sand-Knit

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on February 22, 2018, 12:47:50 AM
Davante was never this good. His season best FT% was 83.5%. Very good, elite for a big man. But Matt would school him in a free throw shooting contest.

Actually his senior year was his second best. 78.1% is good for any player. Great for a big man.

No doubt 78% is good. 
However it got lame imo his senior year when the crowd is chanting automatic and ur making 3 out of 4
Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.

D'Lo Brown

#47
Maybe Wojo is just letting him get a taste of the bench and some DNPs, see if he wants to sign up for a full year of that?

Regardless, Wojo definitely had no idea what he had in Harry and I'm surprised he put him on this crazy of a rollercoaster ride.

GooooMarquette

Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on February 22, 2018, 06:59:20 PM
Wait until you see 6'9" Joey next year.  He is highly talented.

I don't question the talent, but I have always seen him listed as 6'6" or 6'7" and therefore he would be splitting minutes more with guys like Sam, Sacar, and Jamal.

Herman Cain

Quote from: yetipro on February 22, 2018, 08:08:04 PM
Maybe Wojo is just letting him get a taste of the bench and some DNPs, see if he wants to sign up for a full year of that?

Regardless, Wojo definitely had no idea what he had in Harry and I'm surprised he put him on this crazy of a rollercoaster ride.
D1 sports are full of guys and gals who are tremendous practice players who have a hard time converting their good practice results into actual games. Some gain confidence and improve in the games, others never do. It is up to their coaches to figure out if it is the former or the latter. Sometimes there are highly coachable kids ,like Derrick Wilson, who can fool multiple sets of coaches to keep giving them chances with their great work ethic and practices.   
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