Froling?

[JakeBarnes]

According to Ben Steele's JS account, Wojo told Harry as he was putting him in that he was going to be open, and when he is open, to please shoot the ball.  Seems Harry was having some confidence issues.

Good to hear. It has been weird seeing him drain it in shootaround but then hesitate in the game. Hopefully this gets him a bit more confidence going forward--he can be a lethal weapon on offense and on the boards.

[skianth16]

Judi wow. Coach asked him to step up, told him how he could, and he did. That's how you build confidence and trust.

For some players, getting benched sends a message that they need to work harder to earn PT, for others, it's viewed as a punishment and can breed resentment. Do I think Harry is a Jeronne Maymon? No, but it's not out of the question for a guy to be upset that he got benched.

Just yesterday someone posted an article saying it's not out of the question for Harry to consider leaving to go to Australia. I'm sure it's just conjecture, but it's not crazy to think a player becomes unhappy when he doesn't get PT. Some guys are motivated by it, some guys aren't.

[MU82]

He may have been the difference had he played Saturday. Happy for him. Made the most of his opportunity after rising pine two straights games

Agree with this.

Again, I'm bullish on Wojo, but I thought he coached a poor game vs. DePaul.

We were in a situation in which nothing was working in the 2H, so it was worth a few "why the hell not?" moves. And Harry would have been such a move.

If Wojo had said the exact same thing to him - I'm putting you in, shoot when they leave you open, we believe in you - he could have helped a lot vs. DePaul.

It's classic Tuesday Morning Quarterbacking by me, but that's what fans do and that's why coaches get the big bucks.

Totally cool that Harry came through last night!

[DCHoopster]

Agree with this.

Again, I'm bullish on Wojo, but I thought he coached a poor game vs. DePaul.

We were in a situation in which nothing was working in the 2H, so it was worth a few "why the hell not?" moves. And Harry would have been such a move.

If Wojo had said the exact same thing to him - I'm putting you in, shoot when they leave you open, we believe in you - he could have helped a lot vs. DePaul.

It's classic Tuesday Morning Quarterbacking by me, but that's what fans do and that's why coaches get the big bucks.

Totally cool that Harry came through last night!

Should have put more pressure on getting the ball out of hands of there two best players, much like they did at the game yesterday.

[Loose Cannon]

I wonder if Harry was on the same page as Wojo? If Harry was thinking he'd play in the SJU and Creighton games, but Wojo DNP-ed him, and then Harry comes out and steps up against G-town - does that put Harry in a worse place mentally, thinking he should have earned some PT in prior games, or does he look at G-town as a positive and build on it? (sorry for the run-on sentences!)

Curious, if it was YOU what would be your thinking.  Better or Worse?

[skianth16]

Curious, if it was YOU what would be your thinking.  Better or Worse?

I'd be happy I proved myself. But it does seem that more and more college players have people in their ear, telling them how good they are, so I worry that we can have guys grow to be discontented with their role. I'm probably over-sensitive to the transfer possibilities. We've obviously weathered those storms well, but it's still a concern of mine. Can't help it.

[bilsu]

Wally was not asked to leave. Wally was given a choice and he chose to leave.

Forcing him to make a choice between one sport and another is somewhat the same thing.

[brewcity77]

Judi wow. Coach asked him to step up, told him how he could, and he did. That's how you build confidence and trust.

That has to be one of the most irritating autocorrects. I've edited "Judi" out of so many posts, and I've no idea how often my wife responded to a text saying "who's Judi?" IPhone, I assume?

[Loose Cannon]

I'd be happy I proved myself. But it does seem that more and more college players have people in their ear, telling them how good they are, so I worry that we can have guys grow to be discontented with their role. I'm probably over-sensitive to the transfer possibilities. We've obviously weathered those storms well, but it's still a concern of mine. Can't help it.

Thanks for your reply.  I would agree.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Forcing him to make a choice between one sport and another is somewhat the same thing.

Not really. But also not the choice that was given

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

For some players, getting benched sends a message that they need to work harder to earn PT, for others, it's viewed as a punishment and can breed resentment. Do I think Harry is a Jeronne Maymon? No, but it's not out of the question for a guy to be upset that he got benched.

Just yesterday someone posted an article saying it's not out of the question for Harry to consider leaving to go to Australia. I'm sure it's just conjecture, but it's not crazy to think a player becomes unhappy when he doesn't get PT. Some guys are motivated by it, some guys aren't.

I don't disagree with you.  But Jeronne Maymon isn't a good example. The only thing wrong with Jeronne Maymon was Tim Maymon

[Nukem2]

Forcing him to make a choice between one sport and another is somewhat the same thing.

Though, he still had a scholie and was actually much better at the other sport.  Not a bad choice.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

That has to be one of the most irritating autocorrects. I've edited "Judi" out of so many posts, and I've no idea how often my wife responded to a text saying "who's Judi?" IPhone, I assume?

My phone auto corrects Greg Gard to Greg Hard. It always makes me laugh at the thought of him getting fired by Bucky and going into porn.

[WarriorFan]

Froling might leave for what in Australia?  Based on his current resume, he's only a fringe player in that pro league.  That league is incredibly physical with lightning quick (usually undersized) guards and bigs who can shoot and bang.  Can't see him fitting in anything other than a developmental role and those are typically reserved for 17-19 year olds in that system.

He needs to stay, work, improve, benefit MU, and then earn some $$$ in a couple years.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

That has to be one of the most irritating autocorrects. I've edited "Judi" out of so many posts, and I've no idea how often my wife responded to a text saying "who's Judi?" IPhone, I assume?

I just thought that skianth16 was a chick named Judi.

[skianth16]

I just thought that skianth16 was a chick named Judi.

[muwarrior69]

Seems like Harry and Jamal could be additional 3pt threats for next season. Is Joey and Brendan good like Sam from beyond the arc? If so we won't miss Rowsey next season.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Seems like Harry and Jamal could be additional 3pt threats for next season. Is Joey and Brendan good like Sam from beyond the arc? If so we won't miss Rowsey next season.

Both Joey and Brendan can hit from beyond the arc. I don't think either are at Sammy's level but they will do well

[MuMark]

Almost nobody is at Sam's  level...''Joey is a definite 3 point threat. Bailey can shoot it but after 2 years of not playing I'm keeping my expectations modest for him next year.

[Herman Cain]

Forcing him to make a choice between one sport and another is somewhat the same thing.

Not really. But also not the choice that was given

Have said this before, this is how it came down with Wally:

1) He could stay on the basketball team (and track team) as a walk on, like Cam Marotta, with no athletic scholarship. Or 2)  he  could participate in track and field on a full scholarship ,which by NCAA rules, prevents him from playing basketball ( or football).

Wally chose to graduate and move on.

[MuMark]

Have said this before, this is how it came down with Wally:

1) He could stay on the basketball team (and track team) as a walk on, like Cam Marotta, with no athletic scholarship. Or 2)  he  could participate in track and field on a full scholarship ,which by NCAA rules, prevents him from playing basketball ( or football).

Wally chose to graduate and move on.

Makes no sense.....we only had 10 scholarship players last season....11 if you count adding Harry at midseason.

[Herman Cain]

Have said this before, this is how it came down with Wally:

1) He could stay on the basketball team (and track team) as a walk on, like Cam Marotta, with no athletic scholarship. Or 2)  he  could participate in track and field on a full scholarship ,which by NCAA rules, prevents him from playing basketball ( or football).

Wally chose to graduate and move on.

Makes no sense.....we only had 10 scholarship players last season....11 if you count adding Harry at midseason.

It is not a question of having a scholarship available. It is a question of the coach awarding it. Athletic Scholarships are not guaranteed.,they are annually renewable. 

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Have said this before, this is how it came down with Wally:

1) He could stay on the basketball team (and track team) as a walk on, like Cam Marotta, with no athletic scholarship. Or 2)  he  could participate in track and field on a full scholarship ,which by NCAA rules, prevents him from playing basketball ( or football).

Wally chose to graduate and move on.

This doesn't seem right to me either

[brewcity77]

Makes no sense.....we only had 10 scholarship players last season....11 if you count adding Harry at midseason.

Incorrect. We also had Anim redshirting and Cohen before the transfer. Wally would've been 13. Harry was able to transfer in because they didn't fill the Wally scholarship. They tried to fill that scholarship with another grad transfer but were unable to do so.

Wally could've stayed on scholarship as I recall but only if he gave up track.

[Herman Cain]

Have said this before, this is how it came down with Wally:

1) He could stay on the basketball team (and track team) as a walk on, like Cam Marotta, with no athletic scholarship. Or 2)  he  could participate in track and field on a full scholarship ,which by NCAA rules, prevents him from playing basketball ( or football).

Wally chose to graduate and move on.

This doesn't seem right to me either

It is very simple NCAA rules 101 stuff.

Basketball Coach Goes into player  A and says we are not renewing your athletic scholarship. You can stay on the basketball team if you pay your own freight.

Track and Field coach says to Player A We have an athletic scholarship  alternative for you. If you want to continue to run track we can provide you a full scholarship. However, NCAA rules prevent us from giving you a Track scholarship if you participate in basketball.  Thus if you want to play both basketball and run track you have to pay your own freight in both.

In order to avoid PR hit, Athletic Department put out announcement that Player A still had scholarship opportunity in track.

Player A thus had choice. 1) Play Basketball as a walk on and compete in Track as walk on. 2) Compete in track as a scholarship athlete and forego final year of eligibility in basketball. 3) Graduate and Grad transfer.

These are the actual facts as verified by the MU Athletic Department.

People can make any interpretation of both Player A , The Coaches and The athletic Departments motivations as they want.

Player A graduated and did not use his final year of athletic eligibility in either Track or Basketball.