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GoldenDieners32

Hopefully froling plays today, with georgetown's bigs it could be rough

skianth16

Quote from: GoldenEagles32 on February 26, 2018, 10:17:04 AM
Hopefully froling plays today, with georgetown's bigs it could be rough

I'm going to guess he'll get a few minutes, but Wojo really seems to have soured on him lately. We go murdered on the boards at Depaul, and he still didn't look to Harry for help. What a weird month for the kid to go from entering the starting lineup to consecutive DNPs.



nyg

Yes, if Harry doesn't play tonight, you have to really consider he may be gone. Otherwise, he is in a super sized dog house........

NickelDimer

QuoteHowever, Froling finished with an efficient six points, nine rebounds, and two assists in the Golden Eagles' last game against DePaul, 
Weird decision by Steve
No Finish Line

NotAnAlum

I think Wojo has made up his mind about Froling and is now in effect asking him to leave.  I think Wojo's expectation was that he would be a Euro-center who could hit the 3.  He even tried to play him along side another 5 (Matt or Theo) and that didn't work.  If he doesn't bring the 3 ball to the party its going to be hard break into the rotation next year when you have Matt, Theo and Morrow as low post players.  If Eke is showing them anything in practice that is the final nail.  It bugs me that we have to do this to college players due to issues with talent evaluation and long term roster planning but I think that is where we are.  Wojo needs the position to bring in some ball handling guards because we've swung too far toward front court players.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: nyg on February 26, 2018, 03:55:02 PM
Yes, if Harry doesn't play tonight, you have to really consider he may be gone. Otherwise, he is in a super sized dog house........

Or Wojo is just cutting down his rotiation....I think this is being super over analyzed. 
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: NotAnAlum on February 26, 2018, 04:07:59 PM
I think Wojo has made up his mind about Froling and is now in effect asking him to leave.  I think Wojo's expectation was that he would be a Euro-center who could hit the 3.  He even tried to play him along side another 5 (Matt or Theo) and that didn't work.  If he doesn't bring the 3 ball to the party its going to be hard break into the rotation next year when you have Matt, Theo and Morrow as low post players.  If Eke is showing them anything in practice that is the final nail.  It bugs me that we have to do this to college players due to issues with talent evaluation and long term roster planning but I think that is where we are.  Wojo needs the position to bring in some ball handling guards because we've swung too far toward front court players.

Unless Wojo has 2 yet to be announced incoming players in mind, I highly doubt he has asked Froling to leave.  A bit of leap there...
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

nyg

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Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on February 26, 2018, 04:09:32 PM
Or Wojo is just cutting down his rotiation....I think this is being super over analyzed.

Understand, but after getting completely clobbered on the boards when there was Rowsey, Markus, Ellliott, Sam and Heldt on the floor and he didn't play one second, well.....Those offensive possessions where Depaul got at least three bounds on what four possessions and no subbing in a 6ft 11 inch guy?  Is he that bad? 

We'll see what happens tonight against Govan and Derrickson, two big, strong kids.   

NickelDimer

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on February 26, 2018, 04:09:32 PM
Or Wojo is just cutting down his rotiation....I think this is being super over analyzed.
Not buying that. Not with the way we struggled to rebound against DePaul. There were minutes there for HF
No Finish Line

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Harry has played his way to the back of the rotation. Nothing more,  nothing less. He may decide that he'll never be able to get PT here and leave... Or may decide to put in the work to get better.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


skianth16

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on February 26, 2018, 04:09:32 PM
Or Wojo is just cutting down his rotiation....I think this is being super over analyzed.

Weird timing, though, if that's the case. Normally, you don't look to shorten the bench when a starter goes down. Then again, maybe he only wants the guys he's 100% sold on in the last stretch of the year. Still weird that Wojo went from starting the kid to the DNP's. Talk about mixed messages.

cheese ball chaser

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on February 26, 2018, 04:11:10 PM
Unless Wojo has 2 yet to be announced incoming players in mind, I highly doubt he has asked Froling to leave.  A bit of leap there...

I agree-the article posted has the headline "Harry Froling done at Marquette?" even though it's just pure speculation by the writer. A little too click-baity for me.

forgetful

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 25, 2018, 01:24:59 PM
Yeah, keep thinking that.

He was not shown the door at SMU, period. 

dgies9156

I find this whole thing amazing.

If he can't break the line-up at MU, then what makes anyone think he can play professionally? Anywhere. We're not that good inside and someone with the ostensible talent Froling has should be starting for us.

There's a whole lot more to this than anyone is acknowledging. I'm guessing there's some practice and maybe some off the court issues.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: dgies9156 on February 26, 2018, 05:26:46 PM
I find this whole thing amazing.

If he can't break the line-up at MU, then what makes anyone think he can play professionally? Anywhere. We're not that good inside and someone with the ostensible talent Froling has should be starting for us.

There's a whole lot more to this than anyone is acknowledging. I'm guessing there's some practice and maybe some off the court issues.

Just because a guy finds his way to the back of the rotation doesn't mean there is off court issues. He may not be pleased with his current role, but that doesn't always mean the he's in the doghouse or on his way out of town.

Hopefully it's time for MU to see a lot more of that in the coming years. We haven't been 12 deep for a long time. Even at 10 deep this year has been a pleasure. When you go that deep, some guys don't play. That simple.
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: dgies9156 on February 26, 2018, 05:26:46 PM
I find this whole thing amazing.

If he can't break the line-up at MU, then what makes anyone think he can play professionally? Anywhere. We're not that good inside and someone with the ostensible talent Froling has should be starting for us.

There's a whole lot more to this than anyone is acknowledging. I'm guessing there's some practice and maybe some off the court issues.

Australia has several layers of professional leagues. He would fit in just fine there.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Nukem2

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on February 26, 2018, 06:34:36 PM
Australia has several layers of professional leagues. He would fit in just fine there.
But, the NBL (the best one) has severe salary caps.  Not much money there but for G League imports.

LoudMouth


TAMU, Knower of Ball

Froling is rolling!
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


skianth16

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on February 26, 2018, 07:39:30 PM
Froling is rolling!

Living up to his billing tonight. Shots looked pretty good, but I'm not sure I want to see a whole lot more of that. Don't tempt fate too much!

tower912

A virtue out of necessity.    Congrats, big fella.   
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It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Dr. Blackheart

#148
From Patrick Hazel to Jim Cinderella Dudley.

jsglow

Nice game for Harry wasn't it? Hope it helps him gain some confidence.

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