What's Wrong With Markus?

[tower912]

And if he misses, there is a >95% chance he is going to tumble to the ground.  I mean, I get trying to pick up a cheap foul but...

I noticed this.   I wonder how much of it is trying to influence a call and how much of it is simple physics.     Jumping and getting bumped by someone 50 lbs heavier.   

[GooooMarquette]

I noticed this.   I wonder how much of it is trying to influence a call and how much of it is simple physics.     Jumping and getting bumped by someone 50 lbs heavier.

Or a third option: wanting so much to avoid contact that he flinches enough to lose his balance when there is little to no contact. Kinda like a batter flinching on a pitch to the inside corner.

I personally think that is often what happens.  Some guys are comfortable with contact, while others aren't.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

And if he misses, there is a >95% chance he is going to tumble to the ground.  I mean, I get trying to pick up a cheap foul but...

Yes.  And when he makes it he still tumbles to the ground >60% of the time

[rocky_warrior]

Or a third option: wanting so much to avoid contact that he flinches enough to lose his balance when there is little to no contact. Kinda like a batter flinching on a pitch to the inside corner.

I personally think that is often what happens.  Some guys are comfortable with contact, while others aren't.

Maybe that's true, but bad physics if that's his thinking... contact with the ground is generally going to be more forceful than contact with a guy 50lbs heavier (at least, for non contact sports).

[GooooMarquette]

Maybe that's true, but bad physics if that's his thinking... contact with the ground is generally going to be more forceful than contact with a guy 50lbs heavier (at least, for non contact sports).

Yep.  Know you're gonna get hit by someone much bigger than you, know you could go down hard if that happens, know you really don't want to go down hard, so you flinch....

But still the ultimate difference is the fear of getting hit...as evidenced by significant differences in FT attempts and floor burns between one small guy like Markus and another small guy like Rowsey.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Yep.  Know you're gonna get hit by someone much bigger than you, know you could go down hard if that happens, know you really don't want to go down hard, so you flinch....

But still the ultimate difference is the fear of getting hit...as evidenced by significant differences in FT attempts and floor burns between one small guy like Markus and another small guy like Rowsey.

Rowsey draws more fouls when driving than Markus, but the majority of the difference between the two is that Rowsey has 20 some fouls on three point attempts. Markus maybe has a couple.

[lawdog77]

In case anyone is watching OU WVU.. We need to run the play OU just ran at 14:28. Trae rejects the ball screen, drives, kicks out to the corner man who drives, which leaves two shooters open...drains the three

[Tugg Speedman]

In case anyone is watching OU WVU.. We need to run the play OU just ran at 14:28. Trae rejects the ball screen, drives, kicks out to the corner man who drives, which leaves two shooters open...drains the three

You mean how Elliott and Hauser get most of their open looks?

[lawdog77]

You mean how Elliott and Hauser get most of their open looks?

well, according to many on here, Howard does not pass when he drives, so I am not sure.

[Tugg Speedman]

Update through the St. Johns game.

Since he missed his first FT in 67 attempts at the beginning of the Xavier Game (Jan 24)

In the five games MU has lost since the Providence miss

Free-Throws 20 for 26 (77%) - and missed at least one in every loss since the streak was broken
3 Pointers = 12 for 40 (30%)
Average Points = 15.0
Assists = 10
Turnovers = 15

Team record 0 - 4

In the one game we won (Seton Hall)

Free-Throws 10 for 10 (100%)
3 Pointers = 4 for 6 (66%)
Average Points = 32
Assists = 3
Turnovers = 2

Since the FT streak ended Markus has had 5 subpar games (by Markus standards).  Record 0 - 5
Markus had one good game, record 1-0

Will we win the next game?  Depends on which Markus shows up.  How do we know which one shows up?  If he misses an FT.  0 - 5 when he does.

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

Whats wrong?  He is short, relatively unathletic and has small hands.  Doesnt see the court and struggles to finish and dribble.   He is a horrible horrible defender.
He shoots very well when he takes good shots.
Thats who he is.  Present day steve novak shoots very well. Does nothing else well.

[Tugg Speedman]

Whats wrong?  He is short, relatively unathletic and has small hands.  Doesnt see the court and struggles to finish and dribble.   He is a horrible horrible defender.
He shoots very well when he takes good shots.
Thats who he is.  Present day steve novak shoots very well. Does nothing else well.

And this suddenly happened the morning of January 24, 2018?  Because for the first 1 1/2 seasons none of these issues were evident in his game.

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

And this suddenly happened the morning of January 24, 2018?  Becuase for the first 1 1/2 seasons none of this was a problem evident in his game.

Last year he took open jump shots in a far more limited role n excelled in what he excells in.  This year he is being called to everything else.  None of which he does well.

[MU82]

And this suddenly happened the morning of January 24, 2018?  Because for the first 1 1/2 seasons none of these issues were evident in his game.

Wrong. Markus had some very poor stretches well before that date.

In the 3 games prior to Jan. 24, Markus averaged 11 points on 43% shooting (23% on 3s).

And in the 3 games before he went for 52 vs Providence and 37 vs Nova, Markus averaged 12 points on 33% shooting (27% on 3s). He also had 13 TOs during that stretch.

He made all of his FTs in those games, but he still didn't shoot well.

Glad we have the young man on our team, obviously, but Markus has not been Mr. Consistent.

[muhoops1]

Shoot to get hot.  Shoot to stay hot.  Just not staying hot, forcing it and whining like an NBA Star at every perceived no call. Bad look for Baby Bruno Mars but hey coach gives he and frat boy a green lite so whatever

[wadesworld]

Shoot to get hot.  Shoot to stay hot.  Just not staying hot, forcing it and whining like an NBA Star at every perceived no call. Bad look for Baby Bruno Mars but hey coach gives he and frat boy a green lite so whatever

You're cool.

[Billy Hoyle]

I noticed this.   I wonder how much of it is trying to influence a call and how much of it is simple physics.     Jumping and getting bumped by someone 50 lbs heavier.

He's coached by a guy who was taught to do that as a player. Duke teaches their guys to do that and they usually get calls because they're Duke. Watch Allen, go back and watch Paulus, Redick, Scheyer, Singler, et al. The difference is Howard isn't a Dukie so he's not getting the calls when there isn't a foul.

[Markusquette]

Shoot to get hot.  Shoot to stay hot.  Just not staying hot, forcing it and whining like an NBA Star at every perceived no call. Bad look for Baby Bruno Mars but hey coach gives he and frat boy a green lite so whatever

What kind of so-called "fan" spews garbage like that?

[Tugg Speedman]

Glad we have the young man on our team, obviously, but Markus has not been Mr. Consistent.

Completely agree as this is what I was getting at, he has been inconsistent this year.  The reason I noted his performance after the miss is it was obvious in the Providence game that miss upset him (which is fine) and his play collapsed right after that.  Five games later and it only got better for Seton Hall.

When Markus is on, we win.  When he is off, Rowsey and/or Hauser better be lighting it up or we have no chance.

This year defense is outscoring your opponent.

[MU82]

He's coached by a guy who was taught to do that as a player. Duke teaches their guys to do that and they usually get calls because they're Duke. Watch Allen, go back and watch Paulus, Redick, Scheyer, Singler, et al. The difference is Howard isn't a Dukie so he's not getting the calls when there isn't a foul.

You do realize that players for every program in the country do this, right? Or do you only watch Duke games and Marquette games?

I will be refereeing 3 rec-league games of 10-year-olds and 11-year-olds later today, and I guarantee I will see at least a half-dozen players react to "fouls" as if they've been shot.

P.S.: Duke and Marquette players aren't the only ones who scream, "And 1!" after every layup, either. Again, I will hear that numerous times this afternoon from the little kiddies.

[Tugg Speedman]

You do realize that players for every program in the country do this, right? Or do you only watch Duke games and Marquette games?

I will be refereeing 3 rec-league games of 10-year-olds and 11-year-olds later today, and I guarantee I will see at least a half-dozen players react to "fouls" as if they've been shot.

P.S.: Duke and Marquette players aren't the only ones who scream, "And 1!" after every layup, either. Again, I will hear that numerous times this afternoon from the little kiddies.

82 is correct, every player that has ever put on a competitive basketball uniform whines and flops over fouls.  Duke was the 438,171 team to adopt it.

[Goose]

He has played a lot of minutes, taken a lot of shots and hit the floor a lot of times. Several games, especially of late, his shot has been hitting front end of the rim. He might just be worn out.

[AZMarqfan]

Markus is a tremendous shooter, and the addition of the floater (which devastated Marquette in the NCAA tourney last year) has been huge.  But he's below average as a ball-handler, distributor, and defender.  He needs to get better in these parts of his game.  Being 5'10 or 5'11" is a challenge, but the previous three short-comings are addressable. 

[Newsdreams]

Shoot to get hot.  Shoot to stay hot.  Just not staying hot, forcing it and whining like an NBA Star at every perceived no call. Bad look for Baby Bruno Mars but hey coach gives he and frat boy a green lite so whatever

Hey, congrats on making Scoop Takes.