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Re: MUBB players to NBA Question?
« Reply #50 on: January 18, 2018, 09:45:55 AM »

Markus simply MUST prove he can play PG to be an NBA player. I'm trying to think if there has ever been a 5-11 two-guard with only OK handle and no defensive ability in NBA history, and I'm coming up blank.


The name that came to my mind was Chris Jackson/Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf (played at LSU), but I now see he was bit taller (6' 1") than I recalled. An incredibly prolific scorer, but I don't recall his reputation as a ball handler. Left after his sophomore year (had averaged 29 PPG over two years!), and had 10 years in the NBA.

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« Reply #51 on: January 18, 2018, 09:48:26 AM »
The name that came to my mind was Chris Jackson/Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf (played at LSU), but I now see he was bit taller (6' 1") than I recalled. An incredibly prolific scorer, but I don't recall his reputation as a ball handler. Left after his sophomore year (had averaged 29 PPG over two years!), and had 10 years in the NBA.

Decent comparison, though again he was taller and a little more solid.
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Re: MUBB players to NBA Question?
« Reply #52 on: January 18, 2018, 09:50:16 AM »
ESPN Insider released an updated NBA Draft top 100 ranking this morning.  Markus checks in at #39 on the list.  Maybe him leaving early isn't as crazy as many want to believe.

I don't think it's a crazy notion at all.

I personally don't think it would be a wise move on his part, but many in similar situations have take the leap in the past.

For those of us who aren't Insiders, can you provide the list please?
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Re: MUBB players to NBA Question?
« Reply #53 on: January 18, 2018, 10:31:49 AM »
Decent comparison, though again he was taller and a little more solid.

I'm not sure that I would say he was more solid than Markus, especially at LSU.

Taller, yes.

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Re: MUBB players to NBA Question?
« Reply #54 on: January 18, 2018, 10:43:30 AM »
This makes tremendous sense and of course I hope it's how they are looking at it, too.

Markus simply MUST prove he can play PG to be an NBA player. I'm trying to think if there has ever been a 5-11 two-guard with only OK handle and no defensive ability in NBA history, and I'm coming up blank.

I agree about the relatively slow release - although he has gotten better at it.  Also agree Sam should get physically stronger, but again he has made significant strides there, too. Not sure I agree with McDermott being much quicker afoot, if at all.

I keep going back to Calbert Cheaney as the guy Sam reminds me of the most by body type and skill set. He was an outstanding all-around college player; and though he was never an NBA All-Star, he had a long (13 years), productive pro career.

I think Sam has a bit of Klay Thompson in him too. Perfect mechanics on his shot, right place right time kinda guy.

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« Reply #55 on: January 18, 2018, 01:00:37 PM »
Actually one of the college players who very much was similar to Markus was Mike Robinson at Michigan State back in the early/mid 70s.

Robinson was 5-11 maybe 145  Robinson won the Naismith award as a senior in 74. Had a career average of 24.2 a game and 1717 points in 3 seasons( he played when freshman were ineligible). Led the big ten in scoring a couple years.  24.8,25.3 and 22. 8 scoring averages per year and score 10 field goals per game on 46.2 in the pre 3 point Era. A phenomenal shooter who had a very distinct one handed shot. In those days only one team from conference generally made the tournament. So he was never seen on a broader stage nationally.

Robinson was drafted in the 7th round by the Cavaliers and did not make the final cut.  I know he ended up in Grand Rapids and did well in life.

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« Reply #56 on: January 18, 2018, 01:31:41 PM »
Actually one of the college players who very much was similar to Markus was Mike Robinson at Michigan State back in the early/mid 70s.

Robinson was 5-11 maybe 145  Robinson won the Naismith award as a senior in 74. Had a career average of 24.2 a game and 1717 points in 3 seasons( he played when freshman were ineligible). Led the big ten in scoring a couple years.  24.8,25.3 and 22. 8 scoring averages per year and score 10 field goals per game on 46.2 in the pre 3 point Era. A phenomenal shooter who had a very distinct one handed shot. In those days only one team from conference generally made the tournament. So he was never seen on a broader stage nationally.

Robinson was drafted in the 7th round by the Cavaliers and did not make the final cut.  I know he ended up in Grand Rapids and did well in life.

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You are comparing him to a player who played 44 years ago and was drafted in 7th round......

Game has changed just abit since then and only 60 players are drafted in two rounds, and I believe the first 30 are only ones guareenteed money. 

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« Reply #57 on: January 18, 2018, 04:03:41 PM »
You are comparing him to a player who played 44 years ago and was drafted in 7th round......

Game has changed just abit since then and only 60 players are drafted in two rounds, and I believe the first 30 are only ones guareenteed money.

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Re: MUBB players to NBA Question?
« Reply #58 on: January 18, 2018, 04:21:32 PM »
Honest q .. of the 491 NBA active players today .. how many of them went through the g/d-league?

I don't have a clue but marquette itself has Dwight buycks, Vander Blue, Henry Ellenson, and Jamil Wilson. Of that Henry is the first on the true minor league path. I'm sure there's quite a few other 1st round picks in the last 2 years that are doing the same.

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Re: MUBB players to NBA Question?
« Reply #59 on: January 18, 2018, 05:56:52 PM »
I'm not sure that I would say he was more solid than Markus, especially at LSU.

Taller, yes.

I'm guessing you are too young to have seen Chris Jackson play. He was by far a better player and it's not even close. MH is a better 3-point shooter. Jackson was far better in every other aspect of his game.

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Re: MUBB players to NBA Question?
« Reply #60 on: January 18, 2018, 06:56:29 PM »
I'm guessing you are too young to have seen Chris Jackson play. He was by far a better player and it's not even close. MH is a better 3-point shooter. Jackson was far better in every other aspect of his game.

Yes, some of these comparisons are just not even close.

Jackson was 6ft1 and played two years at LSU.  He was SEC Player of the Year both years and was First Team All American both years.  He was the third player drafted, all this with a disability since he had Tourettes Syndrome.  I remember watching him at the free throw line and he would have a "twitch"on his face, the analysts calling the game would bring it up and that is the first I ever heard of the disease. 

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Re: MUBB players to NBA Question?
« Reply #61 on: January 18, 2018, 07:17:02 PM »
You are comparing him to a player who played 44 years ago and was drafted in 7th round......

Game has changed just abit since then and only 60 players are drafted in two rounds, and I believe the first 30 are only ones guareenteed money.
I was comparing Markus Favorably to a guy who is on the Mt Rushmore of Michigan State basketball. The NBA reference was purely informational . Yes it was different back then as there was no 3 pointer and the NBA was about giant centers .
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« Reply #62 on: January 18, 2018, 07:55:42 PM »
Yes, some of these comparisons are just not even close.

Jackson was 6ft1 and played two years at LSU.  He was SEC Player of the Year both years and was First Team All American both years.  He was the third player drafted, all this with a disability since he had Tourettes Syndrome.  I remember watching him at the free throw line and he would have a "twitch"on his face, the analysts calling the game would bring it up and that is the first I ever heard of the disease.

IIRC, he had Tourette's Disease.

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« Reply #63 on: January 18, 2018, 08:04:19 PM »
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« Reply #64 on: January 18, 2018, 08:15:50 PM »


I was serious, TAMU.

He was also the original "Colin Kaepernik". After he converted to Islam, he refused to stand for the anthem for the same reasons that CK did 20 or so years later


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Re: MUBB players to NBA Question?
« Reply #65 on: January 18, 2018, 08:34:50 PM »
IIRC, he had Tourette's Disease.

I must be missing something here.......maybe a political spin or something, but seriously the guy suffered with Tourettes Syndrome and did fine. 

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/tourette-syndrome/symptoms-causes/syc-20350465


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« Reply #66 on: January 18, 2018, 08:36:06 PM »
I was serious, TAMU.

Which is funny because in the post you quoted there was this:

Yes, some of these comparisons are just not even close.

Jackson was 6ft1 and played two years at LSU.  He was SEC Player of the Year both years and was First Team All American both years.  He was the third player drafted, all this with a disability since he had Tourettes Syndrome.  I remember watching him at the free throw line and he would have a "twitch"on his face, the analysts calling the game would bring it up and that is the first I ever heard of the disease. 

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Re: MUBB players to NBA Question?
« Reply #67 on: January 18, 2018, 08:40:34 PM »
IIRC, he had Tourette's Disease.

As someone who actually has tourettes...it's syndrome, or simply TS.

Also TS isn't a BFD to athletes I never tic during fights, or Hurling and didn't when I played lacrosse either. Tim Howard the goalie for USA soccer has TS and when I've spoken to him he can relate it allows us to focus in.
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1. Luka Doncic   PG   Real Madrid   18.8   6-8   N/A
2. Deandre Ayton   C   Arizona   19.4   7-0   7-5
3. Marvin Bagley III   PF/C   Duke   18.8   6-11   7-0½
4. Mohamed Bamba   C   Texas   19.6   7-0   7-9
5. Michael Porter Jr.   SF/PF   Missouri   19.5   6-10   7-0
6. Trae Young   PG   Oklahoma   19.3   6-2   6-4
7. Jaren Jackson Jr.   PF/C   Michigan St   18.3   6-10   7-4
8. Collin Sexton   PG   Alabama   19.0   6-2   6-7
9. Miles Bridges   SF/PF   Michigan St   19.8   6-6   6-9
10. Mikal Bridges   SF   Villanova   21.3   6-7   7-1½
11. Kevin Knox   SF/PF   Kentucky   18.4   6-9   7-0
12. Robert Williams   PF/C   Texas A&M   20.2   6-9   7-5½
13. Daniel Gafford   PF/C   Arkansas   19.2   6-11   7-2
14. Wendell Carter Jr.   C   Duke   18.7   6-10   7-3
15. Dzanan Musa   SF   Cedevita   18.6   6-9   6-8½
16. Troy Brown   SG   Oregon   18.4   6-7   7-6
17. Lonnie Walker IV   SG   Miami FL   19.0   6-4   6-10½
18. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander   PG/SG   Kentucky   19.5   6-6   7-0
19. Bruce Brown   SG   Miami FL   21.4   6-3   6-8½
20. Chandler Hutchison   SG   Boise St   21.7   6-7   N/A
21. Mitchell Robinson   C   N/A   19.8   6-11   7-4
22. Anfernee Simons   SG   Team Breakdown   18.6   6-4   6-7
23. Trevon Duval   PG   Duke   19.4   6-3   6-3½
24. Hamidou Diallo   SG   Kentucky   19.4   6-5   7-0
25. Shake Milton   PG/SG   SMU   21.3   6-6   7-0
26. De'Anthony Melton   PG/SG   USC   19.6   6-3   6-8
27. Keita Bates-Diop   SF   Ohio St   21.9   6-7   N/A
28. Brandon McCoy   C   UNLV   19.6   6-11   7-1½
29. Khyri Thomas   SG   Creighton   21.6   6-3   N/A
30. Jontay Porter   C   Missouri   18.1   6-10   7-0
31. Justin Jackson   SF/PF   Maryland   20.9   6-7   7-3
32. Jarrey Foster   SG   SMU   21.1   6-6   N/A
33. Rodions Kurucs   SF/PF   Barcelona 2   19.9   6-10   N/A
34. Jalen Hudson   SG   Florida   21.6   6-5   N/A
35. Grayson Allen   SG   Duke   22.2   6-4   6-6½
36. Chimezie Metu   PF/C   USC   20.8   6-10   6-10½
37. Jevon Carter   PG   West Virginia   22.3   6-2   6-3
38. Devonte' Graham   PG   Kansas   22.9   6-2   N/A
39. Markus Howard   PG   Marquette   18.8   6-0   6-0
40. Landry Shamet   PG   Wichita St   20.8   6-4   N/A
41. Marko Simonovic   PF/C   Siena   18.2   7-0   N/A
42. Aaron Holiday   PG   UCLA   21.2   6-1   6-6
43. Jacob Evans   SF   Cincinnati   20.5   6-6   N/A
44. Nickeil Alexander-Walker   PG   Virginia Tech   19.3   6-5   6-9
45. Austin Wiley   C   Auburn   19.0   6-11   7-5
46. Goga Bitadze   C   Mega Bemax   18.4   6-11   7-2
47. Tyus Battle   SG/SF   Syracuse   20.3   6-7   6-8
48. O'Shae Brissett   PF   Syracuse   19.5   6-9   6-11
49. Rawle Alkins   SG   Arizona   20.2   6-5   6-9
50. Jarred Vanderbilt   SF   Kentucky   18.7   6-8   7-1
51. Nick Richards   C   Kentucky   20.1   6-11   7-5
52. PJ Washington   PF   Kentucky   19.4   6-8   7-3
53. Kevin Hervey   SF   Texas Arlington   21.5   6-7   N/A
54. Brian Bowen   SF   N/A   19.2   6-7   6-9
55. Arnoldas Kulboka   SF   Capo D'Orlando   20.0   6-10   6-11
56. Bonzie Colson   PF   Notre Dame   22.0   6-5   6-11½
57. Isaac Bonga   SF   Frankfurt   18.1   6-9   7-0
58. Allonzo Trier   SG   Arizona   22.0   6-5   6-7
59. Jalen Brunson   PG   Villanova   21.3   6-2   6-3½
60. Amine Noua   PF   Villeurbanne   20.9   6-8   N/A
61. Lagerald Vick   SF   Kansas   21.0   6-5   N/A
62. Aleksa Radanov   SG   FMP   19.9   6-8   N/A
63. Tony Carr   PG   Penn St   20.2   6-3   6-8
64. Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk   SG   Kansas   20.6   6-8   6-5
65. Ethan Happ   PF/C   Wisconsin   21.6   6-10   N/A
66. Vincent Edwards   SF   Purdue   21.7   6-8   7-0
67. Terence Davis   SG   Mississippi   20.6   6-4   N/A
68. Kostas Antetokounmpo   SF   Dayton   20.1   6-10   7-2
69. Tryggvi Hlinason   C   Valencia   20.2   7-1   N/A
70. Abdoulaye N'doye   PG   Cholet   19.8   6-7   7-2
71. Tadas Sedekerskis   SF   Nevezis   20.0   6-10   6-9½
72. Alize Johnson   PF   Missouri St   21.7   6-9   N/A
73. Ray Spalding   PF   Louisville   20.8   6-10   7-1
74. Donta Hall   PF/C   Alabama   20.4   6-9   7-4
75. Rui Hachimura   PF   Gonzaga   19.9   6-8   N/A
76. Moritz Wagner   C   Michigan   20.7   6-11   7-0
77. DJ Hogg   SF/PF   Texas A&M   21.3   6-9   6-10½
78. Matur Maker   C   Team Loaded VA   20.0   6-10   7-2
79. Isaac Haas   C   Purdue   22.2   7-2   7-4
80. Matisse Thybulle   SG   Washington   20.8   6-5   N/A
81. Jordan Murphy   PF   Minnesota   20.8   6-6   N/A
82. Kostja Mushidi   SG   Mega Bemax   19.5   6-5   7-1
83. Karim Jallow   SF   Bayern Muenchen   20.7   6-7   6-8
84. Vasilis Charalampopoulos   PF   PAOK   21.0   6-9   N/A
85. Malik Pope   SF   San Diego St   21.4   6-10   7-2
86. Bryant Crawford   PG   Wake Forest   20.8   6-3   6-7
87. D'Marcus Simonds   PG/SG   Georgia St   20.2   6-3   N/A
88. Aric Holman   PF/C   Mississippi St.   20.5   6-10   N/A
89. Josh Okogie   SG   Georgia Tech   19.3   6-4   7-0
90. Maximo Fjellerup   SF/PF   Bahia Blanca   20.1   6-7   N/A
91. Elie Okobo   PG   Pau-Orthez   20.2   6-3   N/A
92. Vanja Marinkovic   SG   Partizan   21.0   6-7   6-7
93. Dakota Mathias   SG   Purdue   22.5   6-4   N/A
94. Jeffrey Carroll   SF   Oklahoma St   23.2   6-6   6-6½
95. Omer Yurtseven   C   N.C. State   19.5   7-0   7-1
96. Donte Grantham   SF   Clemson   22.8   6-8   N/A
97. Viny Okouo   C   Malaga   20.7   7-2   N/A
98. Tyler Hall   SG   Montana St   20.8   6-4   N/A
99. Milik Yarbrough   SG/SF   Illinois St   22.2   6-6   N/A
100. Theo Pinson   SF   North Carolina   22.2   6-6   6-11

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« Reply #69 on: January 18, 2018, 11:18:15 PM »
Again, I don't want to sound like I'm rippin' on Markus because I'm not ...

But is he REALLY a better NBA candidate than Brunson is?
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PLAYER   POS   TEAM   AGE   HEIGHT   WINGSPAN
1. Luka Doncic   PG   Real Madrid   18.8   6-8   N/A
2. Deandre Ayton   C   Arizona   19.4   7-0   7-5
3. Marvin Bagley III   PF/C   Duke   18.8   6-11   7-0½
4. Mohamed Bamba   C   Texas   19.6   7-0   7-9
5. Michael Porter Jr.   SF/PF   Missouri   19.5   6-10   7-0
6. Trae Young   PG   Oklahoma   19.3   6-2   6-4
7. Jaren Jackson Jr.   PF/C   Michigan St   18.3   6-10   7-4
8. Collin Sexton   PG   Alabama   19.0   6-2   6-7
9. Miles Bridges   SF/PF   Michigan St   19.8   6-6   6-9
10. Mikal Bridges   SF   Villanova   21.3   6-7   7-1½
11. Kevin Knox   SF/PF   Kentucky   18.4   6-9   7-0
12. Robert Williams   PF/C   Texas A&M   20.2   6-9   7-5½
13. Daniel Gafford   PF/C   Arkansas   19.2   6-11   7-2
14. Wendell Carter Jr.   C   Duke   18.7   6-10   7-3
15. Dzanan Musa   SF   Cedevita   18.6   6-9   6-8½
16. Troy Brown   SG   Oregon   18.4   6-7   7-6
17. Lonnie Walker IV   SG   Miami FL   19.0   6-4   6-10½
18. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander   PG/SG   Kentucky   19.5   6-6   7-0
19. Bruce Brown   SG   Miami FL   21.4   6-3   6-8½
20. Chandler Hutchison   SG   Boise St   21.7   6-7   N/A
21. Mitchell Robinson   C   N/A   19.8   6-11   7-4
22. Anfernee Simons   SG   Team Breakdown   18.6   6-4   6-7
23. Trevon Duval   PG   Duke   19.4   6-3   6-3½
24. Hamidou Diallo   SG   Kentucky   19.4   6-5   7-0
25. Shake Milton   PG/SG   SMU   21.3   6-6   7-0
26. De'Anthony Melton   PG/SG   USC   19.6   6-3   6-8
27. Keita Bates-Diop   SF   Ohio St   21.9   6-7   N/A
28. Brandon McCoy   C   UNLV   19.6   6-11   7-1½
29. Khyri Thomas   SG   Creighton   21.6   6-3   N/A
30. Jontay Porter   C   Missouri   18.1   6-10   7-0
31. Justin Jackson   SF/PF   Maryland   20.9   6-7   7-3
32. Jarrey Foster   SG   SMU   21.1   6-6   N/A
33. Rodions Kurucs   SF/PF   Barcelona 2   19.9   6-10   N/A
34. Jalen Hudson   SG   Florida   21.6   6-5   N/A
35. Grayson Allen   SG   Duke   22.2   6-4   6-6½
36. Chimezie Metu   PF/C   USC   20.8   6-10   6-10½
37. Jevon Carter   PG   West Virginia   22.3   6-2   6-3
38. Devonte' Graham   PG   Kansas   22.9   6-2   N/A
39. Markus Howard   PG   Marquette   18.8   6-0   6-0
40. Landry Shamet   PG   Wichita St   20.8   6-4   N/A
41. Marko Simonovic   PF/C   Siena   18.2   7-0   N/A
42. Aaron Holiday   PG   UCLA   21.2   6-1   6-6
43. Jacob Evans   SF   Cincinnati   20.5   6-6   N/A
44. Nickeil Alexander-Walker   PG   Virginia Tech   19.3   6-5   6-9
45. Austin Wiley   C   Auburn   19.0   6-11   7-5
46. Goga Bitadze   C   Mega Bemax   18.4   6-11   7-2
47. Tyus Battle   SG/SF   Syracuse   20.3   6-7   6-8
48. O'Shae Brissett   PF   Syracuse   19.5   6-9   6-11
49. Rawle Alkins   SG   Arizona   20.2   6-5   6-9
50. Jarred Vanderbilt   SF   Kentucky   18.7   6-8   7-1
51. Nick Richards   C   Kentucky   20.1   6-11   7-5
52. PJ Washington   PF   Kentucky   19.4   6-8   7-3
53. Kevin Hervey   SF   Texas Arlington   21.5   6-7   N/A
54. Brian Bowen   SF   N/A   19.2   6-7   6-9
55. Arnoldas Kulboka   SF   Capo D'Orlando   20.0   6-10   6-11
56. Bonzie Colson   PF   Notre Dame   22.0   6-5   6-11½
57. Isaac Bonga   SF   Frankfurt   18.1   6-9   7-0
58. Allonzo Trier   SG   Arizona   22.0   6-5   6-7
59. Jalen Brunson   PG   Villanova   21.3   6-2   6-3½
60. Amine Noua   PF   Villeurbanne   20.9   6-8   N/A
61. Lagerald Vick   SF   Kansas   21.0   6-5   N/A
62. Aleksa Radanov   SG   FMP   19.9   6-8   N/A
63. Tony Carr   PG   Penn St   20.2   6-3   6-8
64. Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk   SG   Kansas   20.6   6-8   6-5
65. Ethan Happ   PF/C   Wisconsin   21.6   6-10   N/A
66. Vincent Edwards   SF   Purdue   21.7   6-8   7-0
67. Terence Davis   SG   Mississippi   20.6   6-4   N/A
68. Kostas Antetokounmpo   SF   Dayton   20.1   6-10   7-2
69. Tryggvi Hlinason   C   Valencia   20.2   7-1   N/A
70. Abdoulaye N'doye   PG   Cholet   19.8   6-7   7-2
71. Tadas Sedekerskis   SF   Nevezis   20.0   6-10   6-9½
72. Alize Johnson   PF   Missouri St   21.7   6-9   N/A
73. Ray Spalding   PF   Louisville   20.8   6-10   7-1
74. Donta Hall   PF/C   Alabama   20.4   6-9   7-4
75. Rui Hachimura   PF   Gonzaga   19.9   6-8   N/A
76. Moritz Wagner   C   Michigan   20.7   6-11   7-0
77. DJ Hogg   SF/PF   Texas A&M   21.3   6-9   6-10½
78. Matur Maker   C   Team Loaded VA   20.0   6-10   7-2
79. Isaac Haas   C   Purdue   22.2   7-2   7-4
80. Matisse Thybulle   SG   Washington   20.8   6-5   N/A
81. Jordan Murphy   PF   Minnesota   20.8   6-6   N/A
82. Kostja Mushidi   SG   Mega Bemax   19.5   6-5   7-1
83. Karim Jallow   SF   Bayern Muenchen   20.7   6-7   6-8
84. Vasilis Charalampopoulos   PF   PAOK   21.0   6-9   N/A
85. Malik Pope   SF   San Diego St   21.4   6-10   7-2
86. Bryant Crawford   PG   Wake Forest   20.8   6-3   6-7
87. D'Marcus Simonds   PG/SG   Georgia St   20.2   6-3   N/A
88. Aric Holman   PF/C   Mississippi St.   20.5   6-10   N/A
89. Josh Okogie   SG   Georgia Tech   19.3   6-4   7-0
90. Maximo Fjellerup   SF/PF   Bahia Blanca   20.1   6-7   N/A
91. Elie Okobo   PG   Pau-Orthez   20.2   6-3   N/A
92. Vanja Marinkovic   SG   Partizan   21.0   6-7   6-7
93. Dakota Mathias   SG   Purdue   22.5   6-4   N/A
94. Jeffrey Carroll   SF   Oklahoma St   23.2   6-6   6-6½
95. Omer Yurtseven   C   N.C. State   19.5   7-0   7-1
96. Donte Grantham   SF   Clemson   22.8   6-8   N/A
97. Viny Okouo   C   Malaga   20.7   7-2   N/A
98. Tyler Hall   SG   Montana St   20.8   6-4   N/A
99. Milik Yarbrough   SG/SF   Illinois St   22.2   6-6   N/A
100. Theo Pinson   SF   North Carolina   22.2   6-6   6-11
A certain somebody made the list.... :)

Not too late to recruit younger brother Alex...
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Re: MUBB players to NBA Question?
« Reply #71 on: January 19, 2018, 12:54:52 AM »
A certain somebody made the list.... :)

Not too late to recruit younger brother Alex...

He did. I wonder how many other 3rd men off the bench for mid majors with .500 records made the list? It's amazing what a famous older brother will do for you.

The younger brother actually starts for his HS team so he might be worth a look.
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Re: MUBB players to NBA Question?
« Reply #72 on: January 19, 2018, 12:57:15 AM »
I'll give it right back to you, jerkoff. It was an honest mistake using disease instead of syndrome. 100% unintentional.

I apologize to anyone who was offended by my mistake except for any jerk who tells me F you.

No offense here. I was just poking fun at you quoting a post about him having Tourette's and then saying "I think he had Tourette's IIRC"
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Re: MUBB players to NBA Question?
« Reply #73 on: January 19, 2018, 01:20:46 AM »


Markus simply MUST prove he can play PG to be an NBA player. I'm trying to think if there has ever been a 5-11 two-guard with only OK handle and no defensive ability in NBA history, and I'm coming up blank.

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Agree.

The best modern comparison is JJ Barea.  Again more of a natural PG but really a 2 in a PG size package...
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Re: MUBB players to NBA Question?
« Reply #74 on: January 19, 2018, 05:39:01 AM »
I'm guessing you are too young to have seen Chris Jackson play. He was by far a better player and it's not even close. MH is a better 3-point shooter. Jackson was far better in every other aspect of his game.

In fact, I'm older than him (graduated MU in '88). So, if I'm wrong, it's because my memory is not what it once was, not because I didn't see him play.

My recollection (which was not corrected, due to a lack of statistics), is that Jackson (in college) was a superstar on offense, but not much on defense. He was an incredible shooter. He wasn't that tall (though the numbers show his height taller than Howard). Perhaps he had a better handle and more of a true point guard than Howard.

I didn't say Jackson was a perfect comparison to Howard, but was trying to help MU82 come up with someone similar. Nothing more than that.