2018 Grad Transfer Thread, Updated 4/19/2018

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Top 3 or 4 overall players. He's a better defender than anyone we had last season. His offense would be probably 4th best. Game isn't played on paper but statistically this kid is sweet.

I don't think Mooney (or Chartouney) would upset the balance at all. It would add balance. We are short on guards, defense, and distribution. We are heavy on forwards and offense. Either would fill in a lot of holes currently on our roster.

Any indication that MU has reached out to Mooney?

Get this guy some tape of Rowsey, and say here kid, look what you can do in this offense.  You'll be flanked by two other upperclassman that can shoot from distance at a 45% or better clip.  If you have pro aspirations, there is no better situation.  I would think MU would be very attractive to a player like Mooney.

[PGsHeroes32]

Borzello didn’t list us as teams who have reached out to Mooney



It’s a lot of teams

[dw3dw3dw3]

Not on Evan Daniels list either. No coaches following him on twitter. Either they are super confident with one of their other options, or they don't see enough of a fit for even a kick the tires call/follow.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Not on Evan Daniels list either. No coaches following him on twitter. Either they are super confident with one of their other options, or they don't see enough of a fit for even a kick the tires call/follow.

I don't see how he could be seen as not a fit.  Best defender of the group and best offensive player.  Its been, what, 24 hours since he announced? 

[Tha Hound]

There is no way we aren't going after Mooney unless there is an impending commitment from Chartouny/Cremo.

I bet we hadn't reached out at the time these writers were hearing his list.

[dw3dw3dw3]

Well it's not like he's a pure point, seemed to play some this year with Dickerson to GT, but Tristan Simpson seemed to be their starting PG.  Maybe seen as a little of duplication with MH.  I know the team should be passing through a press, but someone to get it up the court against some high level pressure, even 1 on 1,  is a priority. Not sure this guy fits that bill.

[TedBaxter]

Marquette going to talk to combo guard traditional transfer Koby McEwen (Utah State) this weekend, so my dream of Chartourny this year and McEwen taking over in 2019-2020 is still a possibility.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Not on Evan Daniels list either. No coaches following him on twitter. Either they are super confident with one of their other options, or they don't see enough of a fit for even a kick the tires call/follow.

Maybe. It's also been about 24 hours since he was given his release. It's possible we will reach out later.

[LAZER]

Agree with this statement 100%. This guy is almost too on the nose what we need. As much as I salivated at the prospect of Custer before the tournament run made that an impossibility, I think I like this guy as much or more. Please land here!

I find it hard to believe the Matt Mooney is the type of player that catapults MU into a Top 10 caliber team next year.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I find it hard to believe the Matt Mooney is the type of player that catapults MU into a Top 10 caliber team next year.

I believe we are already top 30.

Though thinking back,  top 10 might have been jumping the shark a bit. It gets harder to move up the higher you go. Probably more like top 15 top 20

[GGGG]

I believe we are already top 30.

Though thinking back,  top 10 might have been jumping the shark a bit. It gets harder to move up the higher you go. Probably more like top 15 top 20

That isn't what "jumping the shark" means.

[JakeBarnes]

That isn't what "jumping the shark" means.

[barfolomew]

If you look closely you can see the last shred of Tom Bosley's self-respect in the shark's mouth.

[Marcus92]

Based on what little I know, Mooney would make a great addition to the team. But he does have a lower assist rate than all of the graduate transfers we're currently talking to.

I'm most nervous about Chartouny; Fordham was a truly terrible team this past season, finishing dead last (9-22, ranked #292 per KenPom.com) in a much-weakened A10 conference.

The Rams lost to #144 VCU by 25 points and #201 Duquesne by 23. At home. Fordham only played 7 games against top 100 teams (MU faced 28), losing all 7 by an average of 19 points. Chartouny didn't play all that great against those teams, either. Hard to judge how much better he could be surrounded by better players.

[4everwarriors]

How 'bout eat da cat, den, hey?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Hard to judge how much better he could be surrounded by better players.

Look at his SO year stats. He was much better when he had better teammates around him....and those teammates weren't nearly as good as the teammates he would have here

[brewcity77]

I'm most nervous about Chartouny; Fordham was a truly terrible team this past season, finishing dead last (9-22, ranked #292 per KenPom.com) in a much-weakened A10 conference.

Chartouny's sophomore year he was one of 4 double digits scorers. One graduated, two left as grad transfers. That team last year was incredibly depleted. Not saying he's an offensive dynamo, but he's better than what he showed last year.

[muguru]

Chartouny's sophomore year he was one of 4 double digits scorers. One graduated, two left as grad transfers. That team last year was incredibly depleted. Not saying he's an offensive dynamo, but he's better than what he showed last year.

All things being equal, I'd take Chartouny, but I think I'd rather have Cremo..now that kid can score.

[brewcity77]

All things being equal, I'd take Chartouny, but I think I'd rather have Cremo..now that kid can score.

Yeah, but like Rowsey, he'll give one up on the defensive end for every make he gets. Honestly, I'm not worried about getting another scorer. Howard can score. Sam can score. Cain, Elliott, Anim, and Theo all showed they could step up, and I'm sure Morrow and Joey will be able to score as well. We need a defender and distributor. Not another guy who's allergic to defending.

[muguru]

Yeah, but like Rowsey, he'll give one up on the defensive end for every make he gets. Honestly, I'm not worried about getting another scorer. Howard can score. Sam can score. Cain, Elliott, Anim, and Theo all showed they could step up, and I'm sure Morrow and Joey will be able to score as well. We need a defender and distributor. Not another guy who's allergic to defending.

I get that, but for my money, I will take a guy that can score any day of the week. The more the merrier. Yes, he isn't as good defensively, but he is also 6'4" and by that alone, won't be as bad as Rowsey. Not to mention the defense should be better anyway with Joey and Morrow. Especially if Wojo can devise a scheme to play to their strengths defensively.

[MU82]

I get that, but for my money, I will take a guy that can score any day of the week. The more the merrier. Yes, he isn't as good defensively, but he is also 6'4" and by that alone, won't be as bad as Rowsey. Not to mention the defense should be better anyway with Joey and Morrow. Especially if Wojo can devise a scheme to play to their strengths defensively.

I don't want to nitpick, but let's say Wojo takes a scorer who sucks on defense - I don't know if this describes Cremo or not, just saying let's say that's who Wojo gets.

Then, if we suck on defense again next year, the critics will say it's because either Wojo couldn't devise a good scheme with another all-bad-defense backcourt or because Wojo insisted on bringing in another scorer who couldn't play defense. Either way, it would be all on Wojo, right?

[muguru]

I don't want to nitpick, but let's say Wojo takes a scorer who sucks on defense - I don't know if this describes Cremo or not, just saying let's say that's who Wojo gets.

Then, if we suck on defense again next year, the critics will say it's because either Wojo couldn't devise a good scheme with another all-bad-defense backcourt or because Wojo insisted on bringing in another scorer who couldn't play defense. Either way, it would be all on Wojo, right?

I honestly dont see ANY way the defense isn't better regardless of who he brings in. I think a vast majority agree that a lot of the defensive issues were because of the two midgets..well that allieviates itself next year..so by that alone, the D should be better.

[brewcity77]

I honestly dont see ANY way the defense isn't better regardless of who he brings in. I think a vast majority agree that a lot of the defensive issues were because of the two midgets..well that allieviates itself next year..so by that alone, the D should be better.

Yeah, but the two midgets were both crappy defenders. If you replace one with another crappy defender, there's no real reason to expect significant defensive improvement. I don't want another poor defender. Honestly, that also worries me about McEwen. He's a terrible defender.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Yeah, but the two midgets were both crappy defenders. If you replace one with another crappy defender, there's no real reason to expect significant defensive improvement. I don't want another poor defender. Honestly, that also worries me about McEwen. He's a terrible defender.

On McEwen, he was a decent defender his freshman year, statistically speaking. He took a big step back as a sophomore. I'm not familiar enough with Utah State to know what happened, but I think there might be more hope for him as a defender.

[muguru]

Yeah, but the two midgets were both crappy defenders. If you replace one with another crappy defender, there's no real reason to expect significant defensive improvement. I don't want another poor defender. Honestly, that also worries me about McEwen. He's a terrible defender.

Carr is a terrific defender though, and he is my preference for a traditional transfer over McEwen anyway, simply because he has 3 years left vs 2 for McEwen.