2018 Grad Transfer Thread, Updated 4/19/2018

[Pakuni]

Every year there seems to be one or two transfers that go to blue bloods that make you scratch your head. Good players who could be starters for other high majors and stars at some of the lower high majors but choose to go to a blue blood where they get few minutes. Don't know if they think they will have a role and are wrong, or just want to be a part of a championship caliber team.

Duke's starting lineup will undoubtedly feature 4 freshmen, all of whom are 6'7" or shorter. I would assume Marques Bolden would get the 5th starting spot. Could Cremo beat out DeLaurier and O'Connell for one of the top 2 spots on the bench? Theoretically. This also assumes that Duke doesn't pick up EJ Montgomery, another 5 star who would demand minutes. But at least at the moment, I don't see a clear backup PG on their roster for Jones so maybe Cremo could excel at that role.

Cremo could make for an excellent backup for Jones, but does a guy who's talked about using his grad transfer year to prepare himself for the next level want to go somewhere to serve as a backup?
It's an interesting question for him .... go to a place like Marquette where he'd have a great chance at starting for a team that gets much less exposure, or go serve as a backup for a blueblood with legit title aspirations?

[GGGG]

It's not so much Mooney (Though just the thought of having to cheer for someone who went to Notre Dame is already killing me), but more along the lines of I get really bad flashbacks to Jake Thomas.

Jake Thomas was a walk-on who got a scholarship because of numbers.  And that's pretty much the level of play he attained.

[real chili 83]

Wabbit twacks

[PGsHeroes32]

I’ll take Chartounay

But you are smoking rocks if you think he’s a better option then Mooney

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

Appears to me Cremo, mooney or chartouhney are all very nice options with Wojo right in the middle.
 The one thing that i have seen with Wojo is he is fearless and good about going in and recruiting at the very highest of levels.  His recruiting has been nothing short of outstanding.  Getting them to stay for 4 years n play defense has not been as successful but i am confidant he will get tgat turned around

[brewcity77]

***This post is also included in the opening post of the thread. All Grad Transfer info is updated there as well***

Updating this for 4/5/2018. I am only including players Marquette has confirmed interest with. The original list of potential grad transfers was moved down to the 4th post of this thread. At the bottom of this post will be relevant articles for those looking for more grad transfer info.

• PG Joseph Chartouny, 6'3", Fordham: kenpom / espn Chartouny is a big PG that competed in the A-10 with less than stellar advanced numbers but an impressive raw statline (12.2 ppg/5.6 rpg/4.6 apg). He's a great defender that has been among the national leaders in steals each of the past two seasons. The hope would be that he would improve his efficiency if he had better surrounding talent. His shooting stats took a dip last year, but that could be because Fordham lost their three best players from 2017, two of which left as grad transfers: Christian Sengfelder to Boise State and Antwoine Anderson to UConn. It may be worth noting that Sengfelder and Anderson both put up career bests in offensive efficiency after leaving Fordham.
  
• SG Joe Cremo, 6'4", Albany: kenpom / espn This kid is an offensive beast. He ranked 15th in the country in offensive efficiency for players with 24+% usage, can score inside and out while also getting to the line and converting, and has a great raw line (17.8 ppg/4.1 rpg/3.8 apg). Defensively, he is the opposite. Cremo would likely fill the Rowsey role perfectly, putting up big numbers but allowing opponents to do the same. He's getting a lot of interest, including Duke.
  
• PG David Nichols, 6'0", Albany: kenpom / espn The other half of the Albany backcourt isn't as heralded and has very average numbers. Decent efficiency, can score and shoot some, but doesn't pop off the page.

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[brewcity77]

Also, I had it in the thread, but a few people noted that Chartouny's efficiency dropped this past year. I think a big part of that is because three of their four leading scorers left the program. One to graduation, two went as graduate transfers. Both of the grad transfers improved their efficiency after leaving. The only player to score in double digits that didn't leave was Chartouny.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Can Cremo shoot from the Al logo?  Because if not, it isn't worth getting another, all be it taller, defensive sieve.

[mug644]

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I think this is pretty good evidence that he could be a D1 level player. I think if he were to transfer here, he would be one of our top 3 or 4 players. He already had strong efficiency numbers at South Dakota, those could sore if he was on a roster where he wasn't at the top of every scouting report.

TAMU, for all the solid numbers and explanation you offer, this bit makes me skeptical, especially when you reference his offense in the next sentence. Might he really be one of the top 3 or 4 players on the offensive end, with all we have on board already? Or, are you referring to him being one of the top 3 or 4 two-way players (of which we might've had only 2 last year anyway!)?

I've been hoping for a solid grad transfer that will fill particular roles, namely someone with height who is a distributor and reliable defender.

I don't know whether to be excited or wary about someone who might be one of the tope 3 or 4 players. Could it upset the balance of an evolving squad?

[Spaniel with a Short Tail]

Mooney's defense eats Chartouny's for breakfast. Nom nom. Chartouney is more disruptive with the 3.3 steals but Mooney is the type of defender that can lock somebody down. His points per possession allowed is in the 95th percentile of all Division 1 players.

As for his career 2.4 assists, I don't really care about how he averaged 1.8 assists three years ago at a different school. What I was looking at is last year when he averaged 3.1 assists a game despite not being able to pass to the best scorer on the team (himself).

I love Chartouney's fit for us, just check my handle. But Mooney is a better player and just as good of a fit.

[MU82]

One of these things is not like the others ....

Yep. Just saw it. I'm stoopid sometimes. (Some might argue more than sometimes, but then I tell my wife to stop saying that about me.)

[TedBaxter]

I’ll take Chartounay

But you are smoking rocks if you think he’s a better option then Mooney

As a point guard?  That's the whole question.  Is Mooney a point guard like Chartouny?

[Silkk the Shaka]

https://twitter.com/MoonSwag13/status/981942084851716096

Matt Mooney is transferring from South Dakota. He is the clear best player on the grad transfer market and is a perfect fit for what we need. Guard with size, strong distributor, and lockdown defender. Could turn us from a top 30 team to top 10 team.

Sic em Wojo

Agree with this statement 100%. This guy is almost too on the nose what we need. As much as I salivated at the prospect of Custer before the tournament run made that an impossibility, I think I like this guy as much or more. Please land here!

[jsglow]

So with all the grad transfers Wojo has talked to, does it seem likely that he's playing the 'I've got one slot for this so call me..... like soon'?

[ZiggysFryBoy]

ChiTown, I love you like a brother (probably because you are my brother), but I feel like you say this about every player who used to play high school ball in Chicago.

What I know is this, Mooney's raw stats are beautiful. His advanced stats, beautiful. He played for a top 100 South Dakota team. And while he got shut down by Duke, KenPom's 3rd best team in the country, (3 points, 2 rebounds, 5 assists, 3 steals, 4 turnovers, 1/5 shooting), he also hung 31 points, 3 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 steal, 6 turnovers, 12/22 shooting on TCU and 23 points, 7 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 steals, 4 turnovers, 10/18 shooting on UCLA, both tournament teams. Yes, the turnovers were high in all three games, but that's what happens when your the best player on a low major team going against high major competition. Also, in 3 games against South Dakota State, a top 80 KenPom team and the autobid from the Summit, Mooney averaged 31 points, 5.7 rebounds, 3 assists, 1.3 steals, 2 turnovers on 33/73 shooting.

I think this is pretty good evidence that he could be a D1 level player. I think if he were to transfer here, he would be one of our top 3 or 4 players. He already had strong efficiency numbers at South Dakota, those could sore if he was on a roster where he wasn't at the top of every scouting report.

You two are kin?  no chit.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

ChiTown, I love you like a brother (probably because you are my brother), but I feel like you say this about every player who used to play high school ball in Chicago.

WHAAAAAA????

Frat bro maybe?

[Bocephys]

WHAAAAAA????

Frat bro maybe?

Eskimo?

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Eskimo?

[muguru]

MAYBE this means they are out on Chartouney and they know it..

https://twitter.com/GoodmanESPN/status/982289425362071552

[MU82]

MAYBE this means they are out on Chartouney and they know it..

https://twitter.com/GoodmanESPN/status/982289425362071552

Who are out? Tulane, Oklahoma and Louisville?

[muguru]

Who are out? Tulane, Oklahoma and Louisville?

Louisville is/was also in on Chartouney.

[Tha Hound]

MAYBE this means they are out on Chartouney and they know it..

https://twitter.com/GoodmanESPN/status/982289425362071552

Probably just doing their due diligence on all grad transfers, just like we are doing with Chartuoney/Cremo/Nichols.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

TAMU, for all the solid numbers and explanation you offer, this bit makes me skeptical, especially when you reference his offense in the next sentence. Might he really be one of the top 3 or 4 players on the offensive end, with all we have on board already? Or, are you referring to him being one of the top 3 or 4 two-way players (of which we might've had only 2 last year anyway!)?

I've been hoping for a solid grad transfer that will fill particular roles, namely someone with height who is a distributor and reliable defender.

I don't know whether to be excited or wary about someone who might be one of the tope 3 or 4 players. Could it upset the balance of an evolving squad?

Top 3 or 4 overall players. He's a better defender than anyone we had last season. His offense would be probably 4th best. Game isn't played on paper but statistically this kid is sweet.

I don't think Mooney (or Chartouney) would upset the balance at all. It would add balance. We are short on guards, defense, and distribution. We are heavy on forwards and offense. Either would fill in a lot of holes currently on our roster.

[Tha Hound]

Mooney higlight reel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ydPURFIexE

[Silkk the Shaka]

Mooney higlight reel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ydPURFIexE

Yeah this guy is perfect