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2018 Grad Transfer Thread, Updated 4/19/2018

Started by brewcity77, January 15, 2018, 11:25:18 AM

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Its DJOver

Quote from: Jockey on April 04, 2018, 04:54:30 PM
There was no reason Vander and Duane couldn't be starting PGs in the BE.

Sorry but it ain't that easy to switch from a 2 to a 1.

If you would have quoted my entire post you would have seen that I said that Greg should be viewed as a viable option, not necessarily a starter and 30+ mpg player.  I would love to have the depth and quality of depth so that Greg wouldn't have to play point, but if you don't think he will play any point next year, I think you will be mistaken.

Vander and Duane also had very different roles, they were never told to play point even if Duane wanted to.  If Wojo tells Greg that he wants him to be a PG, and Greg spends the next 3 years practicing and playing point.  By the time he graduates, he will be an above average PG.
Quote from: nyg on May 13, 2024, 02:07:11 PM
I'll stick with my opinion on Gold.  He'll be in foul trouble within the first eight minutes.

Its DJOver

Quote from: Pakuni on April 04, 2018, 05:14:16 PM
Following kids on Twitter and making contact with them isn't exactly keeping things close to the vest. And there's no reason to believe Wojo is wasting his and his staff's time on kids they don't really want.
You're right that Greg could one day start at the point. But the way the staff is going after every established point guard on the market right now sure seems to imply that they aren't confident that's next season.

Or they don't have confidence in Markus and want him playing exclusively off the ball, and the plan is to have a grad transfer and Greg be the PG for next year.  Wojo isn't putting his plan out there on twitter, so until we see the roster turnout and see the team play next year, we won't know what Wojo's plan is.
Quote from: nyg on May 13, 2024, 02:07:11 PM
I'll stick with my opinion on Gold.  He'll be in foul trouble within the first eight minutes.

MU82

Even if Wojo, in his heart of hearts, believes our starting backcourt will be Markus and Greg next season, he also knows we desperately need backcourt depth.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

Nukem2

Quote from: MU82 on April 04, 2018, 06:35:06 PM
Even if Wojo, in his heart of hearts, believes our starting backcourt will be Markus and Greg next season, he also knows we desperately need backcourt depth.
Depth is the key word.  PT will come as earned at PG.

muguru

"Being realistic is the most common path to mediocrity." Will Smith

We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

MuMark

Quote from: Its DJOver on April 04, 2018, 05:22:52 PM
Or they don't have confidence in Markus and want him playing exclusively off the ball, and the plan is to have a grad transfer and Greg be the PG for next year.  Wojo isn't putting his plan out there on twitter, so until we see the roster turnout and see the team play next year, we won't know what Wojo's plan is.

Wojo said in his last tv show that the ball would be in Markus's hands much more next season......I think you are reaching here.

Pg will be manned by Markus and a pg yet to be named.

MU82

Quote from: MuMark on April 04, 2018, 07:08:33 PM
Wojo said in his last tv show that the ball would be in Markus's hands much more next season......I think you are reaching here.

Pg will be manned by Markus and a pg yet to be named.

Given that feeble competition, sounds like a done deal to me!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

Its DJOver

#432
Quote from: MuMark on April 04, 2018, 07:08:33 PM
Wojo said in his last tv show that the ball would be in Markus's hands much more next season......I think you are reaching here.

Pg will be manned by Markus and a pg yet to be named.

My point was the people are reading way to much into reading the tea leaves based on who is following who on twitter.  Wojo isn't posting next year's starting 5 on Twitter.  We need depth at guard so it makes sense that he's looking at guards, but saying that because he's following player a, b and c means that they are  our only targets is foolish. We could get a commitment from someone that hasn't had any Twitter contact with Wojo we could get another late bloomer like Greg last year. If this many people are "in the know" Then no one is really in the know.
Quote from: nyg on May 13, 2024, 02:07:11 PM
I'll stick with my opinion on Gold.  He'll be in foul trouble within the first eight minutes.

MuMark

Everybody knew we were looking at Elliott. We offered him in January.......it wasn't a secret when he committed.

We are looking to add a point guard.....that is not in dispute......who that pg is we don't know yet.....but if Wojo is making visits.....which he is.....then they have serious interest.

It's unlikely that a commitment will come from somebody we have t heard of but yes anything is possible.

Its DJOver

Quote from: MuMark on April 04, 2018, 07:38:44 PM
Everybody knew we were looking at Elliott. We offered him in January.......it wasn't a secret when he committed.

We are looking to add a point guard.....that is not in dispute......who that pg is we don't know yet.....but if Wojo is making visits.....which he is.....then they have serious interest.

It's unlikely that a commitment will come from somebody we have t heard of but yes anything is possible.

When you say they,  are you referring to wojo or the other party showing interest?  I asked a while ago if anyone had any info on how the grad transfer recruiting system works vs recruiting high school players and I got crickets.
Quote from: nyg on May 13, 2024, 02:07:11 PM
I'll stick with my opinion on Gold.  He'll be in foul trouble within the first eight minutes.

MuMark

Wojo/MU is they when it comes to MU recruiting.......he is the closer. Assistants probably involved as well like Stan was for Reinhardt.

Its DJOver

#436
Quote from: MuMark on April 04, 2018, 07:48:04 PM
Wojo/MU is they when it comes to MU recruiting.......he is the closer. Assistants probably involved as well like Stan was for Reinhardt.

So that gets back to my question. High school players only get so many official visits, so if you get one you know that there is strong mutual interest. If there's no limit on meetings a grad transfer can have, we could be one of his dozen or so meetings and while there would probably still be some interest it's not as exciting as getting an official visit from a high schooler.
Quote from: nyg on May 13, 2024, 02:07:11 PM
I'll stick with my opinion on Gold.  He'll be in foul trouble within the first eight minutes.

MuMark

Having a coach go visit the player is the first step........it is a sign of interest by both parties.

If they come to campus it is much more serious because grads don't typically take a ton of visits .....not sure if they have the same limitations as high school recruits or not... ....but typically they take 1 or 2 campus visits and then make the call.

Grad transfer process obviously moves much quicker then the typical high school recruitment which can take years.

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

I believe transfers, including grad transfers, are eligible for 5 official visits.

Jaybee can correct me if I am wrong.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

https://twitter.com/PeteYannopoulos/status/981571150772760576

I have no idea how reliable Pete Yannopoulos is, but he says Marquette, Louisville, and SMU are involved with Jospeh Chartouney.

If that's the final list, I like our odds. All three have big minutes available at the point, but I think Marquette is in the best position to make the tournament next season.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


1SE

Quote from: TAMU Chardonnay on April 05, 2018, 12:19:52 AM
https://twitter.com/PeteYannopoulos/status/981571150772760576

I have no idea how reliable Pete Yannopoulos is, but he says Marquette, Louisville, and SMU are involved with Jospeh Chartouney.

If that's the final list, I like our odds. All three have big minutes available at the point, but I think Marquette is in the best position to make the tournament next season.

It would be fantastic to have all the pieces of the puzzle next year. Both because it should make for a great season, but also because all of us (doubters and backers) can see what Wojo can do with a complete hand.
Real Warriors Demand Excellence

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: TAMU Chardonnay on April 05, 2018, 12:19:52 AM
https://twitter.com/PeteYannopoulos/status/981571150772760576

I have no idea how reliable Pete Yannopoulos is, but he says Marquette, Louisville, and SMU are involved with Jospeh Chartouney.

If that's the final list, I like our odds. All three have big minutes available at the point, but I think Marquette is in the best position to make the tournament next season.

Goodman's tweet this morning listed Marquette, Louisville SMU, Oregon, Arizona, UConn, Rutgers, Purdue, Butler and Nevada.
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 05, 2018, 10:35:53 AM
Goodman's tweet this morning listed Marquette, Louisville SMU, Oregon, Arizona, UConn, Rutgers, Purdue, Butler and Nevada.

But he listed us first

#donedeal
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


TheREALwrk

Another cryptic Stan Johnson tweet... this HAS to mean no Chartouny:

"When God gives us "NO" for an answer, keep in mind that there is a much greater "YES" behind it. His "N0" is not a "Rejection," but a cosmic redirection! 🙏🏾👏🏽👌🏾🙌🏽" @MUCoachJohnson

PistolBrad

I've given up on trying to decipher Stan's tweets.  His twitter is a mystery wrapped in an enigma surrounded by a puzzle.

4everwarriors

Figurin' he ain't on Fresno's short list, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

muguru

Quote from: TheREALwrk on April 05, 2018, 11:48:24 AM
Another cryptic Stan Johnson tweet... this HAS to mean no Chartouny:

"When God gives us "NO" for an answer, keep in mind that there is a much greater "YES" behind it. His "N0" is not a "Rejection," but a cosmic redirection! 🙏🏾👏🏽👌🏾🙌🏽" @MUCoachJohnson

I would THINK it's more likely about not getting the Fresno job, given the timing of it.
"Being realistic is the most common path to mediocrity." Will Smith

We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


MU82

Quote from: muguru on April 05, 2018, 11:59:25 AM
I would THINK it's more likely about not getting the Fresno job, given the timing of it.

Sorry about that, Stan. Now go get us Chartouny, and a bunch of recruits for 2019 and 2020!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

Loose Cannon

Quote from: TheREALwrk on April 05, 2018, 11:48:24 AM
Another cryptic Stan Johnson tweet... this HAS to mean no Chartouny:

"When God gives us "NO" for an answer, keep in mind that there is a much greater "YES" behind it. His "N0" is not a "Rejection," but a cosmic redirection! 🙏🏾👏🏽👌🏾🙌🏽" @MUCoachJohnson

Yeah, the old "One door Closes, another Opens."
" Love is Space and Time measured by the Heart. "  M Proust