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nyg

Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on January 23, 2018, 01:29:05 PM
...he had like 19 stitches in his head

Yeah, that was under his eye and Cain had them on top of head.  While back. 

Wasn't aware of anything else effecting his play recently. 

Galway Eagle

Quote from: nyg on January 23, 2018, 01:37:56 PM
Yeah, that was under his eye and Cain had them on top of head.  While back. 

Wasn't aware of anything else effecting his play recently.

Wasn't during providence? I feel like that was a month ago max. Idk lately is a very subjective term
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

nyg

Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on January 23, 2018, 01:40:21 PM
Wasn't during providence? I feel like that was a month ago max. Idk lately is a very subjective term

Whatever...

SaveOD238

If all you ever did was look at box scores, you'd think that Markus was slumping again.  I don't think that's the case in the last two games.  After the 52 and 37 point outbursts back to back, teams decided to key up their defense on MH to prevent him from getting shots off.  Sometimes, I think Wojo is just using his as a decoy to let Rowsey draw the weaker guard defender.

In the three games of the "New Years slump" (American, Georgetown, Xavier) he went 6 for 22.  He was getting plenty of shots, but they weren't going in at his normal clip.

In the three games since BEPOW (Seton Hall, Butler, DePaul) he went 3 for 13 (that's actually a worse percentage...) but never got more than 5 attempts.  He hasn't had the chance to get hot because teams have been denying him the ball.  When he has shot, they've been contested.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on January 23, 2018, 01:40:21 PM
Wasn't during providence? I feel like that was a month ago max. Idk lately is a very subjective term

If you need a definition, see Windy's post of games.  When teams are sending 3-4 bodies at you, it is nice to have an extended recovery period.

MU82

Quote from: Windyplayer on January 23, 2018, 01:11:10 PM
His last eight games are as follows:

American: 10 points
Xavier: 13 points
Gtown: 13 points
Providence: 52 points
Nova: 37 points
Seton Hall: 12 points
Butler: 14 points
DePaul: 7 points.


That's pretty shocking seeing the list like that.

89 in the two games, 20 fewer points in the other 6.

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MUBigDance

Rested/healed MU recipe for X-men upset.

Get it done and no more of this last 4 out/in stuff.

SlowJoe

Lunardi: MU (10) vs. Rhode Island (7) @ Detroit.  Winner gets Michigan State. He also included 7 Big East teams.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: SlowJoe on January 25, 2018, 10:42:20 AM
Lunardi: MU (10) vs. Rhode Island (7) @ Detroit.  Winner gets Michigan State. He also included 7 Big East teams.

I'd hope Cain and Elliott would have big games while Tillman road the pine haha
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: SlowJoe on January 25, 2018, 10:42:20 AM
Lunardi: MU (10) vs. Rhode Island (7) @ Detroit.  Winner gets Michigan State. He also included 7 Big East teams.

Marquette and USC look to be the last 2 teams before the "last 4 byes".  So basically there are 8 or 9 teams between Marquette and the NCAA cutline, in Lunardi's current opinion. 
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.


MU82

I know The World Already Has Ended folks don't want even an inkling of a thought of a teensy, tiny bit of possible optimism because it's more fun to wallow in being miserable. But ...

Even after all of this, Lunardi STILL has our Warriorz not only in the tourney but among the "Last Four Byes."
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: MU82 on February 01, 2018, 09:28:21 PM
I know The World Already Has Ended folks don't want even an inkling of a thought of a teensy, tiny bit of possible optimism because it's more fun to wallow in being miserable. But ...

Even after all of this, Lunardi STILL has our Warriorz not only in the tourney but among the "Last Four Byes."

It's the Super Blue Moon turning us upside down.  You are even quoting advanced stats.  Who knew?

Marquette4life

lunardi just released his latest and we are the second team in the first out

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Marquette4life on February 08, 2018, 08:53:16 AM
lunardi just released his latest and we are the second team in the first out

Lunardi typically writes his bracketologies the day before he releases them. I doubt that the Seton Hall win is included here.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Marquette4life

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on February 08, 2018, 09:01:36 AM
Lunardi typically writes his bracketologies the day before he releases them. I doubt that the Seton Hall win is included here.
This makes sense. Thanks TAMU

Marquette4life

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on February 08, 2018, 09:01:36 AM
Lunardi typically writes his bracketologies the day before he releases them. I doubt that the Seton Hall win is included here.
I think we will be in Dayton as of now. Your thoughts?

JoeSmith1721

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on February 08, 2018, 09:01:36 AM
Lunardi typically writes his bracketologies the day before he releases them. I doubt that the Seton Hall win is included here.

It looks like all games from yesterday were included. Virginia took over the overall #1 seed and Auburn, Seton Hall, Texas and Nevada all moved down spots after losing last night.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on February 08, 2018, 09:01:36 AM
Lunardi typically writes his bracketologies the day before he releases them. I doubt that the Seton Hall win is included here.

He tweeted at 1230am this morning that his bracket was complete, so my guess is this actually does include the results of last night's games.  It shows Nevada as an at large and Boise as an AQ, and Nevada was in first place in the MWC until they lost late last night. So pretty sure this is up to the minute. 

That being said, I think MU match up really well with the teams he lists ahead of us.  I think our resume is better than Va Tech, K State, NC State and Houston, which he has listed in either the last four byes or last four in.  But in any event, I think we need a couple more wins for people to forget about the 4 game skid.

That being said, Joe knows his sh*t, and he has us right there. 
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

SaveOD238

Quote from: Marquette4life on February 08, 2018, 09:15:42 AM
I think we will be in Dayton as of now. Your thoughts?

A date in Dayton with Buzz and VT would break Scoop

PGsHeroes32

Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on February 08, 2018, 09:40:25 AM
Beat hall and we dropped a spot

Slightly more fluid than that.  I think in his "up to the minute" seed lines, he had dropped MU into the next 4 out since Monday and prior to Hall game.  This has more to do with other bubble team's performance since Monday (Cuse winning @ Louisville, Nebraska winning @ Minnesota, etc.). 
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Marquette4life on February 08, 2018, 09:15:42 AM
I think we will be in Dayton as of now. Your thoughts?

I think so. A road win against Seton Hall should be enough to bump us past Syracuse, USC, and NC State (especially since they lost to VT last night...thanks Buzz!)

The bubble is weirdly weak but also short this year. The First Four Out is currently Syracuse, Marquette, UCLA, and Nebraska. Those four teams seem legit, like they could get a tourney berth though they all have warts on their resumes.

But drop to the Next Four Out and you can see there is a drop to the next level.

St. Bonaventure: 47 RPI, 103 SOS
Tier 1: 2-2
Tier 2: 3-2
Tier 3: 4-1
Tier 4: 8-1
Best wins: @BUFF (28), @CUSE (35), UVM* (51), MARY*(62), @CANI (125)
Worst Losses: NIAG (165), @STJOES (199), @DAV (127), @DAY (106) TCU* (32)

A couple of wins that look good on paper but not in reality and four dreadful  losses.

Temple: 37 RPI, 6 SOS
Tier 1: 4-6
Tier 2: 3-0
Tier 3: 4-4
Tier 4: 3-0
Best Wins: CLEM* (4), AUB* (9), WICH (25), @SMU (71), SC* (63)
Worst Losses: MEMP (130), TUL (129), GW* (197), @LAS (180), @UGA (72)

Honestly think they have a better shot than the Bonnies. Great computer numbers and a trio of great wins, but four miserable losses. KenPom sees the truth and ranks them 88th.

Western Kentucky: 51 RPI, SOS 65
Tier 1: 1-2
Tier 2: 3-0
Tier 3: 4-5
Tier 4: 7-0
Best Wins: PURD* (12), SMU* (71), @ODU (85), @MARSH (111), WRST (94)
Worst Losses: @OHIO (227), @UTSA (204), MOST (109), @WISC (159), BELM (77)

This is how bad the fringes of the bubble are. A team who counts Wright State at home and Marshall/Old Dominion on the road as three of its best wins is in the bubble conversation. Oh and they have Belmont at home as their 5th worst loss. Extra giggles for Wisconsin being considered a  bad loss.

SMU: 71 RPI, 78 SOS
Tier 1: 2-2
Tier 2: 3-5
Tier 3: 2-1
Tier 4: 8-0
Best Wins: @WICH (25), ARIZ* (14), BOISE (31), USC (44), UCF (68)
Worst Losses: UNI* (153), @TUL (129), @UCONN (102), @TULSA (99), WKY* (51)

Bad computer numbers, some quality wins and some real ugly losses.

Compare that to our resume:

Marquette: RPI 56, SOS 12
Tier 1: 3-8
Tier 2: 2-2
Tier 3: 3-0
Tier 4: 6-0
Best Wins: @HALL (27), @PROV (29), HALL (27), UVM (51), LSU* (81)
Worst Losses: UGA (72), BUT (34), PROV (29), WICH* (25), PURD (12)
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


TAMU, Knower of Ball

And I see that I was wrong about @HALL not being included. In that case, Lunardi is either drunk or just missed the Seton Hall game but included others.

Case in point, why would Syracuse move from the last of the next four out to the top of the first four out just for beating RPI 43 Louisville on the road when we beat RPI 27 Seton Hall on the road? That makes no sense.

I suspect that he made major changes from last night's game like Boise getting the AQ and Nova losing the top seed, but didn't make more minor changes because he'd have to redo most of the bracket. I think we will see it corrected on his next bracket.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


BM1090

With last night's road win, TRank has us all the way up to a 9 seed if we finish 9-9 in conference. 6 seed if we win out. 8 seed if we go 10-8 with the only remaining loss at Creighton.

It also has us in Dayton as the 2nd last team in at 8-10.

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