Ike injury question

[Galway Eagle]

Due to the back injury can they apply for a medical hardship waiver? Or because they announced the plan to redshirt before that does it have to be a standard red shirt?

[tower912]

It amounts to the same thing.   He isn't playing this year and will have 4 years of eligibility.   I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong, but the only way it matters is if Eke tries to do the Otule 6 year thing. 

[Galway Eagle]

It amounts to the same thing.   He isn't playing this year and will have 4 years of eligibility.   I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong, but the only way it matters is if Eke tries to do the Otule 6 year thing.

That's sot of what I was getting at. Plus I thought that in another thread it was stated that if you choose to red shirt the NCAA is less likely to give you a medical hardship waiver later on so theoretically getting that this year would just be smarter correct?

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Did he end up getting surgery?

[GGGG]

I don't believe you apply for the waiver until your eligibility is done.  Regardless, I don't see him taking yet another redshirt year after sitting out this one.  Unless his back remains a problem.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

It amounts to the same thing.   He isn't playing this year and will have 4 years of eligibility.   I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong, but the only way it matters is if Eke tries to do the Otule 6 year thing.

Play with one eye?

[cheebs09]

Isn't the difference that Otule had two season ending injuries. A broken foot and the ACL. The only way I see Eke getting a 6th year is if he has a season ending injury in the first 10 games in an upcoming year. Otherwise, he will still have 4 years of playing time.

[Badgerhater]

Do we really want another player taking up a scholly for six years?

[Galway Eagle]

Ok conversely, Ike has not been playing long and we have Hauser the 2nd and Bailey coming in next year. We will still have heldt John and frolling in the fold next year. And so I quiestion where Ike fits in the rotation next year. Especially since his redshirt to get better has become more of an injury year.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Ok conversely, Ike has not been playing long and we have Hauser the 2nd and Bailey coming in next year. We will still have heldt John and frolling in the fold next year. And so I quiestion where Ike fits in the rotation next year. Especially since his redshirt to get better has become more of an injury year.

I think the answer is that he doesn't fit in the rotation next year.  Pretty obviously the 13th man. 

[Galway Eagle]

I think the answer is that he doesn't fit in the rotation next year.  Pretty obviously the 13th man.

Which is why I'm curious. It would seem to me that it'd would almost make sense to apply for a hardship waiver and red shirt next year.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Which is why I'm curious. It would seem to me that it'd would almost make sense to apply for a hardship waiver and red shirt next year.

I mean...I think the NCAA would see right through that, but I guess it couldn't hurt.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Eke has not technically redshirted yet because the year has not been completed.  So he is eligible for a medical hardship.

He then would be eligible for a second medical hardship, if the situation would arise.  Without a second medical hardship, Eke is only allowed 5 years to play 4.

Since Eke has not played this year, the voluntary redshirt vs medical hardship only benefits him if Ike has a 2nd year lost to injury.  There would not be a 6th year added if Eke "redshirts" next year.

[Norm]

For folks writing off Eke being the 13th man next year, keep in mind that although he has only played basketball for 4 years, his forte is defense, which MU surely could benefit from. His being able to spell John, Froling and Heldt on the floor for 8 min a game, while providing solid defense, could be valuable.

[GGGG]

For folks writing off Eke being the 13th man next year, keep in mind that although he has only played basketball for 4 years, his forte is defense, which MU surely could benefit from. His being able to spell John, Froling and Heldt on the floor for 8 min a game, while providing solid defense, could be valuable.

John is a good defender.  I would argue with a year experience, that he will be even a better option defensively than a Eke.

Furthermore, MU's main defensive problems are on the perimeter.  The interior is decent.

[4everwarriors]

For folks writing off Eke being the 13th man next year, keep in mind that although he has only played basketball for 4 years, his forte is defense, which MU surely could benefit from. His being able to spell John, Froling and Heldt on the floor for 8 min a game, while providing solid defense, could be valuable.

Super awesome dat he excels at the correct spellin' of his teammates names at dis point, hey?

[Norm]

John is a good defender - when he stays out of foul trouble (which isn't often). My point is that Eke could play a role next year as a defender. And with Heldt and John always in foul trouble he could get some playing minutes providing D on the back end.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

John is a good defender - when he stays out of foul trouble (which isn't often). My point is that Eke could play a role next year as a defender. And with Heldt and John always in foul trouble he could get some playing minutes providing D on the back end.

The issue is you add a guy like Morrow who is going to play 30 minutes a game and Joey....where's he gonna play? The depth is fantastic, but Eke is going to be stapled to the bench other than garbage time. Ekes time will come if he is patient and works hard, but it mostly likely isn't next season barring injuries and departures.

[franklinjerry]

Is it not unreasonable to believe Ike will never see the floor for MU? Agree he projects as the 13th guy next season if healthy. Without another early exit only Matt leaves as a big after 18/19. Is he willing to sit 2 years or more?

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Is it not unreasonable to believe Ike will never see the floor for MU? Agree he projects as the 13th guy next season if healthy. Without another early exit only Matt leaves as a big after 18/19. Is he willing to sit 2 years or more?

I think it's a little unreasonable assuming he doesn't get an injury waiver this year. Transferring now doesn't do him any favors. Better off working hard on his game and waiting for his time to come as an upperclassman.

[nyg]

If he has a bad back and requires some sort of surgery, why hasn't he had it done?  Why wait, unless he's undergoing some therapy. 

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

The issue is you add a guy like Morrow who is going to play 30 minutes a game and Joey....where's he gonna play? The depth is fantastic, but Eke is going to be stapled to the bench other than garbage time. Ekes time will come if he is patient and works hard, but it mostly likely isn't next season barring injuries and departures.

It's not even next year, it's the next two seasons. Even after Heldt graduates in 2019, Marquette still has another year of Froling, Morrow, Joey and Theo.

Fast forward the year after that, I still think Ike is playing backup to Theo when he's a senior. There's a complete logjam in the front court, which is an awesome problem to have.

[jesmu84]

If he has a bad back and requires some sort of surgery, why hasn't he had it done?  Why wait, unless he's undergoing some therapy.

I would have to know more details about Ike to be sure but...

As someone in the spine surgery world, "bad back" is not an indication for spine surgery. Further, there are a lot of musculoskeletal injuries to the back that do not require surgery.

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

I think the answer is that he doesn't fit in the rotation next year.  Pretty obviously the 13th man.

Disagree, if he can run the court, catch and pass, and play defense n rebound he will play

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

Also he essentially is in the joey n bailey class, so while it may not be immediate gratification,  but he would currently be projected to start as a senior.