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buckchuckler

#2475
Ramos going to the Phillies, Schoop about to go somewhere.

Also reports now that Archer is "likely to be traded".

MerrittsMustache

After missing out on Zeigler (went to Az), the Cubs appear close to acquiring Brandon Kintzler from Washington.

The Brewers appear likely to get a starter. Could be Archer or Gausman or Gio or Harvey...basically any decent starter out there has been linked to the Brewers today!

jsglow

Rumors are flying that everything about the pitchers hinges on Stearns who apparently holds a bunch of deals hostage pending a pick he 'might' make last second.  Who knows it that's true.  But perhaps he's getting the sellers panicky because he'll only do one deal.  50 minutes.

PS.  Stearns isn't flawless but I sure like him.

MerrittsMustache

Heyman reporting the front-runners for starters (as of 2 minutes ago)...

Archer to PIT
Gausman to ATL
Harvey to MIL


buckchuckler

#2479
Dozier to the Dodgers.  In a deal 3 years in the making.

Also sounds like Archer and Gausman are done.  I'm impressed the Pirates finally made a big move.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Here's hoping we somehow get 2012-2015 Harvey and not 2016-2018 Harvey.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


MerrittsMustache

Brewers talking Schoop with Orioles. Move Shaw to SS?

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on July 31, 2018, 02:41:49 PM
Brewers talking Schoop with Orioles. Move Shaw to SS?

Shaw to 1B and Aguilar to CF. 

MerrittsMustache

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on July 31, 2018, 02:49:58 PM
Shaw to 1B and Aguilar to CF.

More likely, Shaw to 1B and Aguilar to the bench. Jesus has been hitting at his "career minor leaguer" level since the ASB. Having Thames and Aguilar coming off the bench late in games would actually be interesting. All-or-nothing sluggers as the modern day version of Lenny Harris?


Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on July 31, 2018, 02:57:05 PM
More likely, Shaw to 1B and Aguilar to the bench. Jesus has been hitting at his "career minor leaguer" level since the ASB. Having Thames and Aguilar coming off the bench late in games would actually be interesting. All-or-nothing sluggers as the modern day version of Lenny Harris?

I assume you knew I was kidding...

MerrittsMustache

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on July 31, 2018, 03:03:27 PM
I assume you knew I was kidding...

Yes...although as a fan of a different NL Central team, I'd love to see Aguilar as the Brewers' every day CF.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on July 31, 2018, 02:40:39 PM
Here's hoping we somehow get 2012-2015 Harvey and not 2016-2018 Harvey.

Harvey stays put - surprising.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on July 31, 2018, 03:04:42 PM
Yes...although as a fan of a different NL Central team, I'd love to see Aguilar as the Brewers' every day CF.

Same here, thus the joke. 

So the Brewers get Schoop after acquiring Moustakas but don't get a starter? 


buckchuckler

#2488
Brewers did get Schoop.  Villar going back.

Meadows, Glasnow and another to the Rays for Archer.   That is the big move the Pirates haven't been willing to make in the past.

buckchuckler

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on July 31, 2018, 03:11:26 PM
Same here, thus the joke. 

So the Brewers get Schoop after acquiring Moustakas but don't get a starter?

Rely on the pen and outscoring other teams I guess.  They can still get Shields...

MerrittsMustache

Quote from: buckchuckler on July 31, 2018, 03:13:36 PM
Rely on the pen and outscoring other teams I guess.  They can still get Shields...

Harvey could still be traded in August if he gets through waivers. Given all the teams that were supposedly interested in him, I'd be kind of surprised if he cleared.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: buckchuckler on July 31, 2018, 03:13:36 PM
Rely on the pen and outscoring other teams I guess.  They can still get Shields...

Sure, and their pen is deep and very good.  Yet acquiring Schoop pushes one of the IF bats to the bench, unless they think he can play SS?  That would be a rough IF defense.  None of Schoop, Moose, or Shaw can play the OF, as far as I know. 

Its DJOver

#2492
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on July 31, 2018, 03:21:19 PM
Sure, and their pen is deep and very good.  Yet acquiring Schoop pushes one of the IF bats to the bench, unless they think he can play SS?  That would be a rough IF defense. None of Schoop, Moose, or Shaw can play the OF, as far as I know.

I think that would be putting it mildly.  Can't find anyone reporting what he cost or what the asking price for Harvey was, but his turnaround since getting to a smaller market team has been good, and his postseason experience would have been greatly appreciated.

Edit: Villar and two prospects
Scoop motto:
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

MUBurrow

Everything sucks. What purpose does Schoop serve?

GGGG

Quote from: MUBurrow on July 31, 2018, 03:30:21 PM
Everything sucks. What purpose does Schoop serve?


Can he play short??

Also it does plug a hole if Moose leaves in free agency.

Jockey

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on July 31, 2018, 02:57:05 PM
More likely, Shaw to 1B and Aguilar to the bench. Jesus has been hitting at his "career minor leaguer" level since the ASB. Having Thames and Aguilar coming off the bench late in games would actually be interesting. All-or-nothing sluggers as the modern day version of Lenny Harris?

Do you advocate sending all players who hit a slump - meaning, basically all players - to the bench?

Even with the slump his OPS is .942. So maybe a better baseball move would be to bench Rizzo, Baez, Russell, Bryant, Swarber, Almora, Happ, Heyward, and Contreras.   ;)


On the Schoop deal, I would expect them to try him at SS. He has played some in the past. Admittedly, a middle infield of Schoop and Shaw is a scary thought - although late in games it will switch to Arcia & Schoop.

Milwaukee's defense is actually pretty good. in DRS & UZR, they rank 1st by a wide margin.

Jockey

Quote from: buckchuckler on July 31, 2018, 03:13:36 PM
Rely on the pen and outscoring other teams I guess.  They can still get Shields...

Don't even say that, Chuckler!

WI inferiority Complexes

Quote from: #bansultan on July 31, 2018, 03:46:21 PM

Can he play short??

Also it does plug a hole if Moose leaves in free agency.
I think he came up as a SS; however, what the Brewers really need him to do is pitch the first 5 innings.

Dish

In the hindsight view, both the Pirates and Rays are big losers in that trade today. Two organizations that moved a year too late.

Year ago:

Archer to Cubs for Jimenez/Cease
Quintana or Sale to Pirates for Meadows/Glasnow

Oof.

MerrittsMustache

Quote from: Jockey on July 31, 2018, 03:55:20 PM
Do you advocate sending all players who hit a slump - meaning, basically all players - to the bench?

Even with the slump his OPS is .942. So maybe a better baseball move would be to bench Rizzo, Baez, Russell, Bryant, Swarber, Almora, Happ, Heyward, and Contreras.   ;)


On the Schoop deal, I would expect them to try him at SS. He has played some in the past. Admittedly, a middle infield of Schoop and Shaw is a scary thought - although late in games it will switch to Arcia & Schoop.

Milwaukee's defense is actually pretty good. in DRS & UZR, they rank 1st by a wide margin.

Aguilar spent 10 seasons in the minors before having a breakout season last year at age 27 and a huge first half this season. Based on his career history, I would guess that the Brewers' FO isn't entirely sold on him being able to keep up his first half pace. He's not going to hit .170 but he's not going to be a .300-hitter either.

Despite the OPS numbers, would you rather have Aguilar than Rizzo at first for the next two months?

Schoop has played 22 innings at SS in the MLB. He played SS in the minors for a while but made 67 errors in 224 games. The Brewers better hope he can hit.

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