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rocket surgeon

 is scooter able to be pried away from the reds?  if so, just tell him he needed a little work on their reds farm team.  even though shaws numbers are down, i still think his bat will be ok.  playing 2nd?  not so much.  don't even think about sending hernan anywhere.  i think hes gonna be a stud
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

jsglow

I like the trade a lot.  Adding some serious pop to the lineup for a team who's historic 20 HR guys have had off years.  The Crew's biggest problem has been their inability to score runs.  Plus let's not forget that Moustakas is another guy with a KC ring, always valuable experience for a young team trying to learn to win in crunch time.

As to defense, no manager I know handles in game switches better than Couns.  Milwaukee has gotten very good utilizing situational switches.  This adds Villar to that existing pool of switchables, at least for this year.  Shaw will be fine over there for 7 innings over 60 games, especially with all the shifting they do.

wadesworld

Quote from: rocket surgeon on July 28, 2018, 05:12:02 AM
is scooter able to be pried away from the reds?  if so, just tell him he needed a little work on their reds farm team.  even though shaws numbers are down, i still think his bat will be ok.  playing 2nd?  not so much.  don't even think about sending hernan anywhere.  i think hes gonna be a stud

The Brewers just made their move for an infielder. They will not be making another one.

Hernan has very little trade value. He's a 27 year old utility player. Unless he's on the Jake Arrieta schedule for steroids he's never going to be anything more than a utility player.

jsglow

Quote from: wadesworld on July 28, 2018, 08:34:52 AM
The Brewers just made their move for an infielder. They will not be making another one.

Hernan has very little trade value. He's a 27 year old utility player. Unless he's on the Jake Arrieta schedule for steroids he's never going to be anything more than a utility player.

But I do like Hernan.  His ability to contribute at literally 6-7 positions.

wadesworld

Quote from: jsglow on July 28, 2018, 08:41:52 AM
But I do like Hernan.  His ability to contribute at literally 6-7 positions.

Agreed. But (again, assuming no Arrieta timeframe on some steroid use) Hernan will never be a stud and no team is going to hold back a trade unless the Brewers include Hernan Perez.

jsglow

#2380
Of course.

So do you think the Crew tries to retain Moose next year?  He kinda got hosed this past offseason.  They could 'extend and reprice'.  He might like living more than year to year.  (I suppose some of that is determined by how well Shaw handles the switch.  But I sure like lefty power.)

cheebs09

Quote from: jsglow on July 28, 2018, 08:53:20 AM
Of course.

So do you think the Crew tries to retain Mooch next year?  He kinda got hosed this past offseason.  They could 'extend and reprice'.  He might like living more than year to year.  (I suppose some of that is determined by how well Shaw handles the switch.  But I sure like lefty power.)

With Boras as his agent and draft pick compensation not attached to him deflating his value, I think he will opt out.

WI inferiority Complexes

Travis Shaw can play 2B?

jsglow

Quote from: cheebs09 on July 28, 2018, 09:33:01 AM
With Boras as his agent and draft pick compensation not attached to him deflating his value, I think he will opt out.

But nobody 'wanted' him last year.  He was one of those guys that got caught up in the non-signings.  I think he'll explore and I don't think the Crew will pay $15MM as the contract calls for but who know if a mutual agreement can be reached.  We'll see I suppose.  Again, much depends on whether Shaw transitions well enough.  This may all be moot if he boots too many balls or butchers too many DPs.

4everwarriors

Dis dude is justa rental. Keston Hiura plays second base next season wit Shaw back ta turd. If four no udder reeson, 'cuz he's wey cheapa dan Mous, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

chapman

Quote from: WI inferiority Complexes on July 28, 2018, 09:43:38 AM
Travis Shaw can play 2B?

They say yes, based on playing in the general vicinity during shifts and taking grounders the past two weeks.  I don't look forward to seeing it.


Quote from: jsglow on July 28, 2018, 08:53:20 AM
Of course.

So do you think the Crew tries to retain Mooch next year?  He kinda got hosed this past offseason.  They could 'extend and reprice'.  He might like living more than year to year.  (I suppose some of that is determined by how well Shaw handles the switch.  But I sure like lefty power.)

If the experiment works they might be willing.  $15M is steep, but the one year commitment might be acceptable with Hiura, Dubon, and Erceg all 2B/3B options that could be expected to be ready the following year.  Dubon was hitting everything and going to be the one up when Arcia was optioned in May; tearing the ACL cost him at least a year and a half.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: Its DJOver on July 28, 2018, 12:02:01 AM
Moustakas to the brewers. Shaw likely to make the move to second base. That's one way to improve your middle infield.

Offensively, sure.  Defensively?  Absolutely not.

wadesworld

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on July 28, 2018, 01:35:57 PM
Offensively, sure.  Defensively?  Absolutely not.

Because Villar has been such a defensive stud at second base this year...

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: wadesworld on July 28, 2018, 01:46:45 PM
Because Villar has been such a defensive stud at second base this year...

Congrats - you posted without referencing Arrieta and steroids!  Quite an accomplishment!!

BM1090

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on July 28, 2018, 01:35:57 PM
Offensively, sure.  Defensively?  Absolutely not.

Both guys grade out as above average at 3rd. Really comes down to whether Shaw can play a passable 2nd. With elite defense in the outfield and at short, above average defense at catcher and 3rd, the Brewers can afford 2nd to be below average as long as Shaw is not a complete disaster

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: MUeagle1090 on July 28, 2018, 04:50:29 PM
Both guys grade out as above average at 3rd. Really comes down to whether Shaw can play a passable 2nd. With elite defense in the outfield and at short, above average defense at catcher and 3rd, the Brewers can afford 2nd to be below average as long as Shaw is not a complete disaster

I know - I was referring to Shaw at 2nd. 

withoutbias

i am shocked...stunned, that cubs fans arent ALL over these tweets from this braves pitcher from when he was in high school.

took like 15 seconds after the tweets surfaced when it was a brewers pitcher.

#UnleashSean

Quote from: WithoutBias on July 29, 2018, 06:52:25 PM
i am shocked...stunned, that cubs fans arent ALL over these tweets from this braves pitcher from when he was in high school.

took like 15 seconds after the tweets surfaced when it was a brewers pitcher.

Most cub fans defended him. But k.

tower912

Teach your kids that any stupid a$$ed crap that they feel compelled to put on social media will inevitably come back to bite them.    Tell them every day.   And read your kids' posts so that you can shut them down if you need to. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

GGGG

Quote from: tower912 on July 29, 2018, 07:36:09 PM
Teach your kids that any stupid a$$ed crap that they feel compelled to put on social media will inevitably come back to bite them.    Tell them every day.   And read your kids' posts so that you can shut them down if you need to.


Don't do that.

withoutbias

Quote from: #UnleashTravis on July 29, 2018, 07:32:10 PM
Most cub fans defended him. But k.

lol uhh...wut? i want some of what youre smoking.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: WithoutBias on July 29, 2018, 06:52:25 PM
i am shocked...stunned, that cubs fans arent ALL over these tweets from this braves pitcher from when he was in high school.

took like 15 seconds after the tweets surfaced when it was a brewers pitcher.

We've been too busy checking on the PED levels of the Brewers' roster.

wadesworld

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on July 29, 2018, 09:35:28 PM
We've been too busy checking on the PED levels of the Brewers' roster.

Hopefully they are through the roof.

Trea Turner also having some teenage Tweets pop up for the wrong reasons.  Where's Tall Titan when you need him?

Some horrible people in this world are having their true colors revealed.  Sad that only when it's a Brewer do we hear about it on MUScoop.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: wadesworld on July 29, 2018, 11:25:28 PM
Hopefully they are through the roof.

Trea Turner also having some teenage Tweets pop up for the wrong reasons.  Where's Tall Titan when you need him?

Some horrible people in this world are having their true colors revealed.  Sad that only when it's a Brewer do we hear about it on MUScoop.

I just saw the news.  They're also awful people, just like that p.o.s. Hader.

All good? 

wadesworld

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on July 29, 2018, 11:50:13 PM
I just saw the news.  They're also awful people, just like that p.o.s. Hader.

All good?

Glad the Saint weighed in on it.

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