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Author Topic: MLB 2018 Season  (Read 499209 times)

buckchuckler

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Re: MLB 2018 Season
« Reply #975 on: May 22, 2018, 12:44:09 PM »
Cut fastball, slider and change up.  Early in his career, again as a starter, he threw a slider quite a bit but hurt himself and had surgery where his pitch evolved.  This was similar to Bruce Sutter, where he developed his splitter after hurting his arm as a starter.

Not quite what I remembered, so I checked it out, this is for later in his career, so what you're saying is probably dead on for his early career, but from 2007 on, he was rarely throwing anything but the cutter.

http://www.brooksbaseball.net/outcome.php?player=121250&time=&startDate=03/30/2007&endDate=05/22/2018&s_type=2


Edit:  Haha!  Beat me to it again VBMG.

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Re: MLB 2018 Season
« Reply #976 on: May 22, 2018, 12:46:17 PM »
Not quite what I remembered, so I checked it out, this is for later in his career, so what you're saying is probably dead on for his early career, but from 2007 on, he was rarely throwing anything but the cutter.

http://www.brooksbaseball.net/outcome.php?player=121250&time=&startDate=03/30/2007&endDate=05/22/2018&s_type=2


Edit:  Haha!  Beat me to it again VBMG.

Yeah, I apparently don't feel like working very hard today.  Or moreso than usual anyway. 

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Re: MLB 2018 Season
« Reply #977 on: May 22, 2018, 12:50:59 PM »
I'm guessing the salaries of starters will soon start to reflect the changes in the game. Only the true aces will get really big $$$$$.

Andrew Miller should be interesting this off-season. It will show us how teams value "bullpen aces".

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Re: MLB 2018 Season
« Reply #978 on: May 22, 2018, 01:00:58 PM »
I'm guessing the salaries of starters will soon start to reflect the changes in the game. Only the true aces will get really big $$$$$.

Andrew Miller should be interesting this off-season. It will show us how teams value "bullpen aces".
Well Jansen just got 5/80 and Chapman got 5/86, so I assume he'll be looking for something similar. Davis got 3/52 as well too. So 16-18/year for 4-5 years?

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« Reply #979 on: May 22, 2018, 01:17:58 PM »
Well Jansen just got 5/80 and Chapman got 5/86, so I assume he'll be looking for something similar. Davis got 3/52 as well too. So 16-18/year for 4-5 years?

I was referring more to guys who aren't closers. Do you think Miller gets closing money?

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« Reply #980 on: May 22, 2018, 01:52:31 PM »
I was referring more to guys who aren't closers. Do you think Miller gets closing money?

Closing money? I thought that was a thing of the past, replaced by high leverage any point in the game money. LOL.

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« Reply #981 on: May 22, 2018, 02:01:40 PM »
Closing money? I thought that was a thing of the past, replaced by high leverage any point in the game money. LOL.

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Re: MLB 2018 Season
« Reply #982 on: May 22, 2018, 03:01:17 PM »

Max Scherzer    --- Duh.  Yes.
Clayton Kershaw  -- Duh Yes
Jon Lester  --Nope, he is getting older, his year last year worries me, highest BB rate of his career, one of the lowest K rates of his career, just some concerning things.  Hmm.  So damn good in the playoffs though.  I may, hmm, needs more consideration, but I lean towards no.
Aaron Nola  --Yes
Justin Verlander -- Yes
Chris Sale -- Yes
Corey Kluber -- Yes
James Paxton -- Yes
Gerrit Cole -- Yes, though I am curious to his resurgence.  I would tread carefully here I think.
Rick Porcello -- No, don't trust him.  Never have. 
Johnny Cueto -- No (the mysterious injury worries me)
Luis Severino -- Yes
Jeremy Jeffress (yes I know you already have him) -- No.  And I would laugh at and hang up on a GM that offered this. 
Tanner Roark  -- See Jeffress, Jeremy.
 

Edit --- other no brainers include...
Carlos Martinez, De Grom, Thor, Strasburg, Carrasco and despite the injuries the last 2 years, Bumgarner.

As a Brewers' fan, I agree with this.

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Re: MLB 2018 Season
« Reply #983 on: May 22, 2018, 05:00:02 PM »
Not quite what I remembered, so I checked it out, this is for later in his career, so what you're saying is probably dead on for his early career, but from 2007 on, he was rarely throwing anything but the cutter.

http://www.brooksbaseball.net/outcome.php?player=121250&time=&startDate=03/30/2007&endDate=05/22/2018&s_type=2


Edit:  Haha!  Beat me to it again VBMG.

Great but they don't have his velocity charts (that I saw) as they do in beta for the likes of Kershaw today. As I said, he threw a cutter (cutting fastball), slider and change up (off his fast ball).  Changing speeds from his cutter was his specialness. He can't have a change up without a fastball.  I am pretty sure you aren't maintaining he threw his cutter the same speed every pitch?

Greg Maddox also made the HOF with being able to locate and change speeds with a mediocre cut fast ball.

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Re: MLB 2018 Season
« Reply #984 on: May 22, 2018, 07:21:32 PM »
Great but they don't have his velocity charts (that I saw) as they do in beta for the likes of Kershaw today. As I said, he threw a cutter (cutting fastball), slider and change up (off his fast ball).  Changing speeds from his cutter was his specialness. He can't have a change up without a fastball.  I am pretty sure you aren't maintaining he threw his cutter the same speed every pitch?

Greg Maddox also made the HOF with being able to locate and change speeds with a mediocre cut fast ball.

Here it is.

http://www.brooksbaseball.net/velo.php?player=121250&b_hand=-1&gFilt=&pFilt=FA|SI|FC|CU|SL|CS|KN|CH|FS|SB&time=month&minmax=std&var=mph&s_type=2&startDate=03/30/2007&endDate=05/22/2018

He added and subtracted a bit, but not huge variance. 

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Re: MLB 2018 Season
« Reply #985 on: May 22, 2018, 08:28:09 PM »
Here it is.

http://www.brooksbaseball.net/velo.php?player=121250&b_hand=-1&gFilt=&pFilt=FA|SI|FC|CU|SL|CS|KN|CH|FS|SB&time=month&minmax=std&var=mph&s_type=2&startDate=03/30/2007&endDate=05/22/2018

He added and subtracted a bit, but not huge variance.

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Re: MLB 2018 Season
« Reply #986 on: May 22, 2018, 08:40:41 PM »


Well what the devil...

So for whatever reason I can't get the link to copy...

http://www.brooksbaseball.net/velo.php?player=121250&time=month&startDate=03/30/2007&endDate=05/22/2018&s_type=2


Try this one, then go to the bottom of the menu on the right and click +/- standard deviation or the max and minimum.

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Re: MLB 2018 Season
« Reply #987 on: May 22, 2018, 09:12:24 PM »
Well what the devil...

So for whatever reason I can't get the link to copy...

http://www.brooksbaseball.net/velo.php?player=121250&time=month&startDate=03/30/2007&endDate=05/22/2018&s_type=2


Try this one, then go to the bottom of the menu on the right and click +/- standard deviation or the max and minimum.

Thanks.  The min/max shows the spread on the cutter speed better. (STD is more about regression to the mean.)  Much more variance on the cutter.  Dude was special.

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Re: MLB 2018 Season
« Reply #988 on: May 23, 2018, 07:29:51 AM »
Honestly, how does an ump like that not get canned?  And how bout Couns?  I think he needs to sign on and put himself in as a pinch runner.

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« Reply #989 on: May 23, 2018, 08:39:46 AM »
Honestly, how does an ump like that not get canned?  And how bout Couns?  I think he needs to sign on and put himself in as a pinch runner.

Pretty much the definition of a good ejection.  If he didn't get out there it was clear that Knebel or Pina was going to say something to get tossed, gotta protect your players.  As for the missed call, its inexcusable at that level in the bottom of the ninth in a one run ballgame.

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Re: MLB 2018 Season
« Reply #990 on: May 23, 2018, 10:28:33 AM »
Rare occurrence this late in the season, the Yankees are in first place but are a half game behind the Red Sox.

Yankees have a .689 winning percentage and the Red Sox have a .688 winning percentage, so if the season ended today the Yankees would win the division.  However, the Red Sox have played 3 more games and won two of them, so the Yankees are a half game behind the Red Sox.
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« Reply #991 on: May 23, 2018, 10:41:04 AM »
Pretty much the definition of a good ejection.  If he didn't get out there it was clear that Knebel or Pina was going to say something to get tossed, gotta protect your players.  As for the missed call, its inexcusable at that level in the bottom of the ninth in a one run ballgame.

Gotta love Pina's seed to second just moments later.  And I read that Knebel went to Couns' office after the game to thank him for the bailout.  I haven't seen the clips of the 8th but it was reported that the ump seriously squeezed Hader too.

Onto today.

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« Reply #992 on: May 23, 2018, 01:26:36 PM »
Gotta love Pina's seed to second just moments later.  And I read that Knebel went to Couns' office after the game to thank him for the bailout.  I haven't seen the clips of the 8th but it was reported that the ump seriously squeezed Hader too.

Onto today.

If only there was a resource to track strikes and balls....


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Re: MLB 2018 Season
« Reply #993 on: May 23, 2018, 03:03:17 PM »
If only there was a resource to track strikes and balls....



Not a fan despite the occasional mistake.

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Re: MLB 2018 Season
« Reply #994 on: May 23, 2018, 03:28:29 PM »
If only there was a resource to track strikes and balls....



I didn't see the play, but if this is the bad call...Doesn't seem too bad to me.

Boy have the DBacks fallen apart and quickly.

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« Reply #995 on: May 23, 2018, 03:37:48 PM »
I didn't see the play, but if this is the bad call...Doesn't seem too bad to me.

Boy have the DBacks fallen apart and quickly.

It was a bad call, but the situation made it worse.  If that's ball one in the 4th inning its no big deal and likely gets forgotten about, but ball 4 in a one run game in the ninth, much bigger deal.  Counsell also probably doesn't go out to argue if Knebel doesn't have that reaction.  It was done almost exclusively to protect him, and Knebel knew it, and reportedly thanked him for it afterwords.

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« Reply #996 on: May 23, 2018, 03:54:17 PM »
Not a fan despite the occasional mistake.

Not a fan of the data?

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« Reply #997 on: May 23, 2018, 04:18:44 PM »
Not a fan of the data?
I know it sounds dumb to advocate arbitrary strike zones, but I wonder how good batters would get at judging balls & strikes with an automated zone.

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« Reply #998 on: May 23, 2018, 04:27:52 PM »
Not a fan of the data?

No, not a fan of further automation in baseball.  Personally, I hate the replay rule.  I acknowledge my inconsistency because I like it to a limited extent in football.

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« Reply #999 on: May 23, 2018, 04:30:43 PM »
Oh, btw, the Crew is sporting the best record in their history over it first 50 games at 31-19.  Long way to go of course.