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TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on November 27, 2017, 03:06:15 PM
Who are the other 3?

Levi Cook (DePaul), Jared Ridder (X), Cooper Neese (Butler). All three were Jameel McKay type midseason transfers. Might qualify for waivers but might not.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
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Anti-Dentite

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on November 27, 2017, 10:47:01 PM
Just go watch first 30 seconds of Wojo post game pressser. He directly addressed the Haani situation. Family matter.  They spoke over the weekend. Wojo specifically addressed that he's not coming back and projected that he'll transfer to a school "in Florida".
I'm gonna go with the coach on this one but someone talking nonsense to Hanni is a real close second.
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JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on November 27, 2017, 10:50:53 PM
Levi Cook (DePaul), Jared Ridder (X), Cooper Neese (Butler). All three were Jameel McKay type midseason transfers. Might qualify for waivers but might not.

Thanks
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

dgies9156

I gotta believe Wojo on this one. As I said before, I wish him well.

To the extent basketball entered the picture, one has to believe that the aggressive recruitment of Quentin Grimes sent a message to Mr. Cheatham. With Greg Elliott, Marcus Howard, Sacar Anim and soon, Brendan Bailey, Mr. Cheatham's future at Marquette was very limited. Had we landed Mr. Grimes, I had thought that Mr. Cheatham would be player most likely to leave.

In the end, it's college basketball. Players come and go. We hope for the best and thank the players for the joy they gave us while their's and our path cross.

naginiF

Quote from: Anti-Dentite on November 27, 2017, 10:52:38 PM
I'm gonna go with the coach on this one but someone talking nonsense to Hanni is a real close second.
I heard he couldn't keep his grades up but his dog telling him he should move home over Thanksgiving break is a close second.

lohaus

Wait, won't the next man up also. . . Be a contributor . . Period?

Stretchdeltsig

Curious to learn what the "family matter" is.

Bocephys


Herman Cain

Haanif is a good kid. He worked hard in school and represented MU well. He was doing well this season, starting and playing good minutes. Part of the reason I felt our team was going to do well was Haanifs return to form.

There is some precedent for transfer waivers to family reason. Michigan State Bryn Forbes was a notable recent case.
http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2014/08/bryn_forbes_granted_ncaa_waive.html

Hopefully , Haanif finds a new home and does well going forward. I will be rooting for him.
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Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on November 27, 2017, 10:47:01 PM
Just go watch first 30 seconds of Wojo post game pressser. He directly addressed the Haani situation. Family matter.  They spoke over the weekend. Wojo specifically addressed that he's not coming back and projected that he'll transfer to a school "in Florida".
But Wojo knows nothing, Scoop knows all!!
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After reading Benny B's post, I'm just not going to speculate.

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Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on November 28, 2017, 06:28:24 AM
Curious to learn what the "family matter" is.

Not necessarily directed at Stretch, but curiosity about "personal matters" used to be about empathy and/or a desire to help.   I'm not talking about 50 years ago... I'm talking less than a couple decades ago.  These days, it seems less about genuine concern and more about people feeling entitled to know what's going on in everyone's lives.

I'm sure with just about everyone's life story being out there on social media, "reality TV," etc., it's not helping the situation.  Schadenfreude has been taken to a new level if you ask me... instead of simply reveling in another's misery, it's almost as though people can't feel good about themselves unless they see something bad happening to someone else.

Again, not directed at Stretch... back in the day before internet, innocuous comments didn't usually trigger a rant.
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Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

whitykj

Best of luck to Haanif, he represented us well, I think he will end up at FGCU.  He's from Fort Lauderdale and if it's a family matter I would think he would want to be as close to home as possible.  There is also a Marquette connection as Jamil Jones is an alum of FGCU now.

DCHoopster

Quote from: Newsdreams on November 28, 2017, 07:38:48 AM
But Wojo knows nothing, Scoop knows all!!

After getting some inside scoop on this situation, family matter is as good as an excuse as any.  Cheatham wants to play at the next level, wants to be the man, he
was never going to be the man at MU.  He wants to be the man.  Simple as that.  Did not like the role he was playing at MU.  Good luck in the future, hope it works out
for him.  Wojo probably told him the truth about his abilities, sometimes players do not want to hear it.  Oh well.

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CTWarrior

Quote from: DCHoopster on November 28, 2017, 10:22:29 AM
After getting some inside scoop on this situation, family matter is as good as an excuse as any.  Cheatham wants to play at the next level, wants to be the man, he
was never going to be the man at MU.  He wants to be the man.  Simple as that.  Did not like the role he was playing at MU.  Good luck in the future, hope it works out
for him.  Wojo probably told him the truth about his abilities, sometimes players do not want to hear it.  Oh well.

This just doesn't make sense to me.  Even if it were true that he was unhappy with his role, he is giving away at least 25 games of  experience and getting nothing back.  If he wants to play a full season of basketball at his new school, he'll have to wait just shy of two years to do it (Nov 2019), unless he can get a waiver, which seems unlikely unless there is a real family issue.  Why not finish the season and the school year, then transfer?  You'll get the same amount of playing time at the new school, plus 25+ more games at Marquette, where you are getting big minutes.  There's no downside unless you are totally miserable. 

Seems to me it has to be something else.
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So he wants to sit out 13 months to play half a season or sit out 23 months to play a full season....

DCHoopster

Quote from: CTWarrior on November 28, 2017, 10:31:53 AM
This just doesn't make sense to me.  Even if it were true that he was unhappy with his role, he is giving away at least 25 games of  experience and getting nothing back.  If he wants to play a full season of basketball at his new school, he'll have to wait just shy of two years to do it (Nov 2019), unless he can get a waiver, which seems unlikely unless there is a real family issue.  Why not finish the season and the school year, then transfer?  You'll get the same amount of playing time at the new school, plus 25+ more games at Marquette, where you are getting big minutes.  There's no downside unless you are totally miserable. 

Seems to me it has to be something else.

Traci Carter did not like is role either,  Sandy Cohen did not like his role either, it happens.  Your right, it makes no sense.  If you want to be the man, show it on the court, I did not see it at all.

MU Fan in Connecticut

Quote from: naginiF on November 27, 2017, 11:17:23 PM
I heard he couldn't keep his grades up but his dog telling him he should move home over Thanksgiving break is a close second.

This was going to be one of my questions.
After Hawaii did the team members get a day or two at home for Thanksgiving break?  If yes, then something must have happened at home that caused him to snap and decide "That's it I'm leaving."

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on November 27, 2017, 10:50:53 PM
Levi Cook (DePaul), Jared Ridder (X), Cooper Neese (Butler). All three were Jameel McKay type midseason transfers. Might qualify for waivers but might not.

What waiver would they qualify for?  I love scoopers who claim to know things they know nothing about.
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LoudMouth

Quote from: DCHoopster on November 28, 2017, 10:22:29 AM
After getting some inside scoop on this situation, family matter is as good as an excuse as any.  Cheatham wants to play at the next level, wants to be the man, he
was never going to be the man at MU.  He wants to be the man.  Simple as that.  Did not like the role he was playing at MU.  Good luck in the future, hope it works out
for him.  Wojo probably told him the truth about his abilities, sometimes players do not want to hear it.  Oh well.
It seems to be bizarre but I have heard the same thing from people (person) close to the players. I wasn't willing to offer this up because, like everything else here, it is speculation. But after another voice saying this, I wanted to raise my hand as hearing the same thing.  He wanted the the QG treatment of being a superstar. He is looking for some extra attention.
Again it is speculation and don't want to smear his name. I will miss having an athletic body out there. I will not miss watching air ball floaters from 6 feet.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Herman Cain on November 28, 2017, 07:20:53 AM
Haanif is a good kid. He worked hard in school and represented MU well. He was doing well this season, starting and playing good minutes. Part of the reason I felt our team was going to do well was Haanifs return to form.

There is some precedent for transfer waivers to family reason. Michigan State Bryn Forbes was a notable recent case.
http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2014/08/bryn_forbes_granted_ncaa_waive.html

Hopefully , Haanif finds a new home and does well going forward. I will be rooting for him.

2014. The rules have changed. In addition, mid-year enrollees in basketball are ineligible.
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GGGG

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on November 28, 2017, 10:51:08 AM
What waiver would they qualify for?  I love scoopers who claim to know things they know nothing about.

The Sandy Cohen Waiver.

I mean, I can't figure out why he got one to qualify for an entire extra year of eligibility, but neither Traci Carter or John Dawson did.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: DCHoopster on November 28, 2017, 10:46:31 AM
Traci Carter did not like is role either,  Sandy Cohen did not like his role either, it happens.  Your right, it makes no sense.  If you want to be the man, show it on the court, I did not see it at all.

Those guys had a lot more eligibility left.  As a junior, Cheatham is giving up 75% of his remaining eligibility. 
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

Bad_Reporter

Quote from: DCHoopster on November 28, 2017, 10:22:29 AM
After getting some inside scoop on this situation, family matter is as good as an excuse as any.  Cheatham wants to play at the next level, wants to be the man, he
was never going to be the man at MU.  He wants to be the man.  Simple as that.  Did not like the role he was playing at MU.  Good luck in the future, hope it works out
for him.  Wojo probably told him the truth about his abilities, sometimes players do not want to hear it.  Oh well.

I've heard similar rumblings as well.

A lot of scoopers can't believe one would do such a thing, but they get a ton of horrible advice, and let's face it a lot of them think they're better then what they really are.

Intelligence plays a role as well. But who am I to judge. I was 18-22 at one point as well, and made bad decisions.

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