Duane

[Lennys Tap]

D Wilson 7-10 fgs, 1-1 3s, 7-7 fts, 2rbs, 6 assts, 1 stl, 22points in 30 minutes in a Texas A+M win over Penn St. Great, efficient PG numbers. Well done, D.

[Goose]

I was jacked up when I saw this last night. Very happy for Duane and wish was still a Warrior. He would have been my PG of choice this year.

[tower912]

When he wasn't replaced, I felt that this year's team would miss him.    I think Elliot has a high ceiling and nice future, but the notion of him handling the point 20+ minutes per game due to injury gives me shivers. 

[MU82]

Absolutely would have been a valuable Warrior. We have no drive-and-kickers. Tough kid, too. I wish him well.

[Litehouse]

I really wish we still had Duane on this team.  Oh well.  Nice to see him having success.

[naginiF]

It was fun to watch him completely take over the game for a period - 9 straight points? - and it's great to see him being used on a team that needs him.  I will say that there were a couple of plays right after that run that would have driven Scoop nuts - a bone head play where he didn't get over half court to receive a pass and a very out of control drive to the hoop.  Not sure either was counted as his TO but both were on him.

[wadesworld]

Glad he is finding success on a great team.

Having said that, my bet would be he follows that up with a line something along the lines of 6 points on 2 of 9 shooting, 0 of 4 from 3, 4 assists, 3 boards, 4 turnovers in 20-some minutes.  It's what his entire career has been.  Flashes of brilliance, a whole lot of mediocrity.  Could be due to injury, could be due to lack of size, could be coaches demotivating him, could be he just is "a guy" at the college level.

[Pakuni]

Happy for Duane. Wish him well.
He might have helped MU this season, but I don't think he'd have been happy with a role coming off the bench for 15-25 minutes a night.

[MU82]

Happy for Duane. Wish him well.
He might have helped MU this season, but I don't think he'd have been happy with a role coming off the bench for 15-25 minutes a night.

Obviously true ... since he sought to go elsewhere knowing that would be the case.

wades and others also make great points about his inconsistency.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Pomeroy has A&M 6th in the country. They wouldn't be there without Du to step in and start the year.

[MerrittsMustache]

Obviously true ... since he sought to go elsewhere knowing that would be the case.

wades and others also make great points about his inconsistency.

Duane was an underappreciated and undervalued player at MU. He was a Buzz recruit and likely only stuck around because he had already burned his redshirt season. Despite that and despite his changing role, he still went out there and did his job.

Like many of the local products, he never lived up to MU fans' expectations of him becoming a star but he was a very good role player for 3 seasons. He's an undersized volume scorer who many people wanted to peg as a true PG (sound familiar?). He was a streaky player offensively and players like that can often need extended run to get going. Sure, some might prefer to call that being inconsistent but if fellow streaky player Andrew Rowsey played in a handful of 3-4 minute blocks of time in each game, he'd likely be pegged as inconsistent as well (look at AR's early season 16-17 gamelog if you don't believe me). Don't get me wrong, Rowsey is more offensively gifted than Duane but there are some similarities in their streakiness/inconsistency.

I wish Duane the best and hopefully MU can meet TAMU in the Sweet 16 this season!

[wadesworld]

Duane was an underappreciated and undervalued player at MU. He was a Buzz recruit and likely only stuck around because he had already burned his redshirt season. Despite that and despite his changing role, he still went out there and did his job.

Like many of the local products, he never lived up to MU fans' expectations of him becoming a star but he was a very good role player for 3 seasons. He's an undersized volume scorer who many people wanted to peg as a true PG (sound familiar?). He was a streaky player offensively and players like that can often need extended run to get going. Sure, some might prefer to call that being inconsistent but if fellow streaky player Andrew Rowsey played in a handful of 3-4 minute blocks of time in each game, he'd likely be pegged as inconsistent as well (look at AR's early season 16-17 gamelog if you don't believe me). Don't get me wrong, Rowsey is more offensively gifted than Duane but there are some similarities in their streakiness/inconsistency.

I wish Duane the best and hopefully MU can meet TAMU in the Sweet 16 this season!

There's a reason Rowsey did/does get consistent minutes and Duane did not.  One is better than the other.  That is my least favorite argument in all of sports arguments.  "Look at the guy's per 40 minutes.  If he got 30 MPG he'd put up huge numbers."  The fact of the matter is if those players were better player they would get those 30 MPG.

I don't think it's just MU fan expectations that he fell short of.  He's just "a guy."  Nothing wrong with that, but not what you'd think of from a top 60 national composite player by years 4 and 5.

[MerrittsMustache]

There's a reason Rowsey did/does get consistent minutes and Duane did not.  One is better than the other.  That is my least favorite argument in all of sports arguments.  "Look at the guy's per 40 minutes.  If he got 30 MPG he'd put up huge numbers."  The fact of the matter is if those players were better player they would get those 30 MPG.

I don't think it's just MU fan expectations that he fell short of.  He's just "a guy."  Nothing wrong with that, but not what you'd think of from a top 60 national composite player by years 4 and 5.

Sigh...

Yes, as I stated, "Rowsey is more offensively gifted than Duane." I didn't say that Duane should have been getting extended minutes or that he should have been playing more than Rowsey. Simply pointing out that a main reason why he was viewed as "inconsistent" was because his minutes were inconsistent. I then used Rowsey as an example of a similar streaky player who would be viewed differently if he played in shorter stretches.

Happy Thanksgiving!

[BrewCity83]

There's a reason seniors contribute more than freshmen.  They get better with experience.  Yeah, Duane helped us while he was here, but we never got to benefit from his senior season, when he would have really contributed at his highest level.

[Pakuni]

Sigh...

Yes, as I stated, "Rowsey is more offensively gifted than Duane." I didn't say that Duane should have been getting extended minutes or that he should have been playing more than Rowsey. Simply pointing out that a main reason why he was viewed as "inconsistent" was because his minutes were inconsistent. I then used Rowsey as an example of a similar streaky player who would be viewed differently if he played in shorter stretches.

Happy Thanksgiving!

It could just be that he was viewed as inconsistent because he is inconsistent.
Even with consistent minutes at A&M, his play has been up and down.

[Goose]

Plus, Wojo might have coached him this year like he did Carlino!! Seriously, think he would have been a big help this year.

[Herman Cain]

Duane had another good game . 15 points 4 assists in Texas A and M win over Pepperdine . He shot 6-9 from the field 3-5 from 3 point line in 26 minutes.

[Babybluejeans]

Glad to see he's doing well and sorry it isn't in an MU uni. He didn't fit in well with the Wojo regime - and it's too bad for us this year. A class guy who deserves to be playing somewhere he'll be deployed more often.

[Lennys Tap]

It could just be that he was viewed as inconsistent because he is inconsistent.
Even with consistent minutes at A&M, his play has been up and down.

Subbing assists for rebounds he been a slightly better version of Sam Hauser. His shooting % is better than anyone not a center, his Ft% is better than anyone except Howard and hid assists to To ratio is better than Rowsey's. If up and down describes his play it also describes MU's best players (Sam, Markus and Rowsey) and is a level above everyone else on our team.

[GooooMarquette]

Glad to see Duane playing well...wish he was still here.

[wadesworld]

Subbing assists for rebounds he been a slightly better version of Sam Hauser. His shooting % is better than anyone not a center, his Ft% is better than anyone except Howard and hid assists to To ratio is better than Rowsey's. If up and down describes his play it also describes MU's best players (Sam, Markus and Rowsey) and is a level above everyone else on our team.

I'm not sure how looking at season averages would tell you whether a guy was inconsistent, especially 5 games into the season. That seems like it'd be more game log numbers. Like if a guy had outputs if 6, 6, 8, 22, and 15 points it seems like that's not super consistent play from him.

[Lennys Tap]

I'm not sure how looking at season averages would tell you whether a guy was inconsistent, especially 5 games into the season. That seems like it'd be more game log numbers. Like if a guy had outputs if 6, 6, 8, 22, and 15 points it seems like that's not super consistent play from him.

As Duane plays more he's played better. My #1 comp to Duane was Sam Hauser (our 3rd best player so far) who has gone 4, 12, 20, 3 and 20. Now, that's inconsistent - big time up and down.

[wadesworld]

As Duane plays more he's played better. My #1 comp to Duane was Sam Hauser (our 3rd best player so far) who has gone 4, 12, 20, 3 and 20. Now, that's inconsistent - big time up and down.

So then you're agreeing, Duane has been inconsistent.

[Lennys Tap]

So then you're agreeing, Duane has been inconsistent.

But good. Every MU player (except Cain and the walk ons) has also been inconsistent. Two have been inconsistent but maybe slightly better (Rowsey, Howard), one has been inconsistent and slightly worse (Hauser) and the rest (Sacar, Cheatham, Heldt, John and Elliott) have been inconsistent but solidly worse.

[Herman Cain]

Subbing assists for rebounds he been a slightly better version of Sam Hauser. His shooting % is better than anyone not a center, his Ft% is better than anyone except Howard and hid assists to To ratio is better than Rowsey's. If up and down describes his play it also describes MU's best players (Sam, Markus and Rowsey) and is a level above everyone else on our team.

I have watched the games and what is not showing in the numbers is Duane is playing under control and making good choices when he is in the games. The coaching staff has responded positively to that approach by Duane.