3 UCLA Players arrested in China

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Yup.  If I had to peg 5 people that would claim this was racist, he was the co-leader.  The kids admitted to doing this, yet it's racial?  Apparently it wasn't racial for the Georgia Tech kids since they didn't do it and are cleared, but let's not talk about that reality.   

I don't think it was about whether or not they did it, I think his comment was about how some on here were advocating for or even openly cheering for them to get multiple years in a Chinese labor camp.

Personally I think it has more to do with their perceived status as entitled athletes (and who the father of one of them is). But I do think there is a gender component. I could be wrong but I don't think there would have been as many people advocating for a trio of female athletes to get multiple years in a labor camp as there were for this trio of male athletes.

[🏀]

Any class over 20 people, attendance was never taken.

[jsglow]

Any class over 20 people, attendance was never taken.

Not sure your era PTM but that's an inaccurate statement in this decade.  Many large lectures have assigned seating and a TA actually checks.  Other techniques as well.

[Hards Alumni]

Any class over 20 people, attendance was never taken.

History of Western Civ in the Varsity Theater with 500 other kids, the TAs took attendance for every class.  (2000)

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

20 days in a luxury hotel in China.  I guess that will mean they miss at least a few games back in the US

A Luxury Hotel in China is probably under $50 a night.

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

Lol
Im guessing u have never been to china?

[oldwarrior81]

The Hyatt Regency Hangzhou daily rates are between $257 - $426.
But the $426 includes a bottle of red wine and a box of chocolates

[StillAWarrior]

A Luxury Hotel in China is probably under $50 a night.

The cheapest room at the hotel they are at is listed at about $255/night.

[Loose Cannon]

Well If indeed they have a Life Time Ban from China, it seem it would be prudent to take a tour of a China's Prison if available.

[🏀]

Not sure your era PTM but that's an inaccurate statement in this decade.  Many large lectures have assigned seating and a TA actually checks.  Other techniques as well.

2004-2008.

I didn't go to the large classes very often, can confirm, TallTitan will sign off. The only class that was large and took attendace was Physics 5. Large FUPA'ed Jesuit had clickers, we had to answer a question at the of class. The back stairwell would be packed with kids showing up and clicking in just before class let out. Or we would rotate who had to click the rest of the group in. Those classes sucked as you had 5-6 clickers to check in with.

Western Civ, Criminology, Calculus, Diff Eq, Chemistry, Physics 4 all instantly come to mind for large classes that didn't take attendance.

[Newsdreams]

Interesting discussion about different approaches and trying not to be judgmental.  Apart from actual illness, I missed exactly one class in my 4 years and I told my professor about it beforehand.

I remember what he said. 'Glow, you're going to learn a lot more today doing what you're doing'.

Load in for that night's Romantics concert started at 7 am.

Non of my teachers took attendance while I was there'79-'83 eng.

[rocket surgeon]

I am sure our dear leader will quickly intercede on their behalf.

It's not as if they did something truly heinous ... like take a knee during the national anthem.

well, if 44 wouldn't have traded all of our decent jihadists from gitmo, this would be over except for the rose garden speech EYn'a?

[source?]

Can confirm I got docked a half letter grade for a 4th absence in my last semester. 2016 grad.

[DJO's Jaw]

Most of the classes for my major didn't take attendance (graduated in '14). If you could skip class and still pass the tests, that was your call. It was only the core classes that everyone was required to take that really seemed to take attendance.

[CreightonWarrior]

That smallish arena is about 40% full.

[StillAWarrior]

ESPN has a decent story with a couple things I hadn't seen:

"A source with firsthand knowledge of the investigation said the players could be in Hangzhou for "a week or two." The source also noted that there is surveillance footage of the players shoplifting from three stores inside of a high-end shopping center next to the team's hotel in Hangzhou, which houses Louis Vuitton, Gucci, Yves Saint Laurent and Salvatore Ferragamo stores."

and

"During the investigation, the school and conference have been receiving assistance from Chinese e-commerce goliath Alibaba, the presenting sponsor of the Pac-12 China Game. On Monday, UCLA and Georgia Tech received a tour of Alibaba in Hangzhou and met Joe Tsai, the executive vice chairman and co-founder of Alibaba. Tsai, who recently reached an agreement in principle to purchase a 49 percent minority stake in the Brooklyn Nets that includes the option to acquire controlling interest of the NBA franchise in 2021, splits his time between Hangzhou and La Jolla, California, where his wife and children reside."

I'm sure it didn't hurt having some help with clout.

[Dawson Rental]

While the whole subject of China and theft is being discussed, I wonder how many Chinese have been locked up for using patented tech without paying royalties.  Maybe its time the US has hard time penalties for that.

[MUEng92]

I once literally forgot i was taking a class

I have had that dream, or should I say nightmare. That and the one where I forget my class schedule at home the first day of school in high school.  The sheer panic I experienced in the dream was as bad as any dream being chased by someone. 

[B. McBannerson]

I have had that dream, or should I say nightmare. That and the one where I forget my class schedule at home the first day of school in high school.  The sheer panic I experienced in the dream was as bad as any dream being chased by someone.

Quite common.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/radical-teaching/200909/recurring-final-exam-dream

[warriorchick]

I have had that dream, or should I say nightmare. That and the one where I forget my class schedule at home the first day of school in high school.  The sheer panic I experienced in the dream was as bad as any dream being chased by someone.

On the night before a big test (including the CPA exam) I would have nightmares where I had overslept and missed it.  Because the dreams always started with me waking up, it was especially realistic.

[MU82]

In my four years, I would guesstimate that 10% of my classes took attendance. One large class did - History 1, which was required for freshman Jour students (and many others). Hundreds of kids in the Varsity, with TAs checking us off lists. A look around the Varsity would find dozens (maybe hundreds) of students snoozing every session.

Except for the large Jour 1 class, most of my Jour classes were small, so the instructor didn't have to take attendance. He/she knew who was there and who wasn't.

My general policy: If they don't take attendance and they don't test us on what is being discussed in class and/or they don't make it interesting, I do not need to go. If all they are going to do is read the book out loud and test us on what's in the book, I ain't going.

I skipped a LOT of classes, especially those not in my major.

[Jockey]

I don't think it was about whether or not they did it, I think his comment was about how some on here were advocating for or even openly cheering for them to get multiple years in a Chinese labor camp.

Personally I think it has more to do with their perceived status as entitled athletes (and who the father of one of them is). But I do think there is a gender component. I could be wrong but I don't think there would have been as many people advocating for a trio of female athletes to get multiple years in a labor camp as there were for this trio of male athletes.

You are correct, sir.

I did not say the Chinese reacted in a racist way. I was referring to some of the comments here on Scoop - Demanding hard prison time for shoplifting.

And as you said, gender may be involved as well. I really doubt we would see the hardline comments if this was a cute, white young gymnast who had committed this act.

[Galway Eagle]

You are correct, sir.

I did not say the Chinese reacted in a racist way. I was referring to some of the comments here on Scoop - Demanding hard prison time for shoplifting.

And as you said, gender may be involved as well. I really doubt we would see the hardline comments if this was a cute, white young gymnast who had committed this act.

Not racial but because of the store you can assume that the items constitute more than shoplifting (as shoplifting equates to petty theft) if my above assumption is true that it would constitute grand theft then I would believe hard time is just no matter gender race or location. If my above assumption was not true then be all means house arrest and a fine seems like Justice to me.

[naginiF]

The 3 were released and ordered not to leave their hotel for the time being.
Probably lucky for them Trump is already there.

Yep it's official.....in the world we live in teal no longer denotes sarcasm
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/president-trump-lobbied-liangelo-ball-ucla-teammates-according-white-house-175801439.html

[Benny B]

You are correct, sir.

I did not say the Chinese reacted in a racist way. I was referring to some of the comments here on Scoop - Demanding hard prison time for shoplifting.

And as you said, gender may be involved as well. I really doubt we would see the hardline comments if this was a cute, white young gymnast who had committed this act.

I don't know about that.... that McKayla Maroney is really starting to annoy me lately.

-or-

Olympic gymnasts are rarely punished in China since Chinese law is actually quite lenient towards children under 10.