Interesting Day Ahead...

[Herman Cain]

it is really tempting to have some schadenfreude with this announcement . However, in general I don't believe it is good for college basketball over all.  I am hoping that after the initial burst of negative publicity the sport can get focused on what is happening on the court.

Having spent a fair amount of family time being involved in college athletics and seeing the making of the recruiting sausage up close and personal , I can't say I am surprised.  In some respects , MU may be better able to compete in the future as some of the competition is disarmed. 

[Dish]

I love Pitino's statement, pure gold. For comedy's sake, I hope he coaches this season, and more stuff pops up, and he just keeps denying, absolutely hilarious.

[dgies9156]

This one smells really, really bad. It has the potential when the investigation is done to bring down most of the major college basketball powers in the United States. The problem is that college basketball went from a winter diversion for universities to a "make-or-break" sport that fueled university relevance.

I indeed hope some of the game's biggest names, UK, Villanova, Kansas, Texas, Michigan State, Michigan, Indiana, Syracuse, Florida, UCLA, Duke even us., are clean. The ramifications if they aren't are too bad to think of.

God, I hope this does not  touch us but I am legitimately worried about the Hillbilly years. There was some well-known monkey business that was cleaned up behind the scenes.  As bad as that was, only God knows what would happen if the same problems Loserville had somehow found their way to our corner of the world.

Look for some major changes in college basketball in the coming years. It has to be. Not sure what they will be yet, but something has to change or the game will go down the tubes.

[GGGG]

Herman my man...I kinda agree with you here.

I see that UK guys are already creating t-shirts about Pitino, but I'm not sure spiking the ball here is a good idea.  I have a feeling this **could** be the beginning of the end of college sponsored, amateur sports as we know it.  This is what happens when the money gets too big and one of the parties responsible for the bigness of the money doesn't get adequate compensation.

This may open the door for Congressional action as well.  Athletic income is now taxable?  Perhaps.

I mean, if this takes down multiple blue bloods, I'm not sure the sport can recover to where it was before.

[muguru]

Herman my man...I kinda agree with you here.

I see that UK guys are already creating t-shirts about Pitino, but I'm not sure spiking the ball here is a good idea.  I have a feeling this **could** be the beginning of the end of college sponsored, amateur sports as we know it.  This is what happens when the money gets too big and one of the parties responsible for the bigness of the money doesn't get adequate compensation.

This may open the door for Congressional action as well.  Athletic income is now taxable?  Perhaps.

I mean, if this takes down multiple blue bloods, I'm not sure the sport can recover to where it was before.

If it means MU wins multiple national Championships because of it...I'm okay with that. 

[Goose]

This is not even scratching the surface of the problem. There are probably a lot of coaches, AD's and university presidents sweating things that it at the moment. That said, this far from a new issue. The NCAA has allowed a great of under the table actions to occur for decades. At this point, I hope that the investigation is complete and no further programs are outed.

[Spotcheck Billy]

I bet recruiting is squeaky clean now short term, possibly helps Wojo with Grimes

[jesmu84]

https://www.theringer.com/platform/amp/2017/9/26/16371360/fbi-sting-operation-assistant-coach-arrests-scandal

[mu03eng]

https://www.theringer.com/platform/amp/2017/9/26/16371360/fbi-sting-operation-assistant-coach-arrests-scandal

You beat me by about 2 minutes to post this. It pretty much sums up my feelings on this whole thing, especially since it looks like the storm clouds should miss MU.

[brewnewsman]

Interesting tweet from CBS radio host @BrandonTierney:

"When #BigEast expanded to 16 tms in '05-'06, I remember handing a coach a pen/asked him to circle teams that did NOT cheat: he circled 3."

[Jay Bee]

This is not even scratching the surface of the problem. There are probably a lot of coaches, AD's and university presidents sweating things that it at the moment. That said, this far from a new issue. The NCAA has allowed a great of under the table actions to occur for decades. At this point, I hope that the investigation is complete and no further programs are outed.

Totally agree, and my fear is many of the sealed cases relate to NCAA program investigations. Not good for college bball unless it ends here/soon and maybe deters things in the future. #BitCoin

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Maybe, if they would allow athletes to be paid from the getgo, this wouldn't be an issue...

[Bo Ryan's Massage Therapist]

Can anybody say World Wide Wes? Isn't this the definition of what he has been doing for two decades strong?

[Lennys Tap]

Maybe, if they would allow athletes to be paid from the getgo, this wouldn't be an issue...

You honestly think a "stipend" would stop 6 figure bribes to high school kids? Got knows how much the 5* get AFTER they get to campus. Get real.

[B. McBannerson]

There is a way to regulate this ... the NCAA.  Where is the NCAA on this?  If they cannot handle this, why have NCAA investigations?

Resource constraints, so subpoena power, many other reasons. 

[mu03eng]

You honestly think a "stipend" would stop 6 figure bribes to high school kids? Got knows how much the 5* get AFTER they get to campus. Get real.

That's why they should let them profit off their likeness...no measly sum there

[Silkk the Shaka]

The plot thickens:

Darren Heitner @DarrenHeitner
Sources: Basketball agency ASM Sports was raided today. FBI had warrant, took Andy Miller's computer.


Miller is an agent whose client list includes Kyle Lowry, Serge Ibaka, Dwight Howard, Kristaps Porzingis and Myles Turner.

Myles Turner went to Texas. Nice!

[Jay Bee]

Maybe, if they would allow athletes to be paid from the getgo, this wouldn't be an issue...

Maybe if you were an employed American in the United States with a real career these types of comments would not come out?

PS- Myles Turner... 2013 http://latenighthoops.com/ny2la-spring-2013-mn/#.WcsR_VtSzIU

[GGGG]

Dan Wolken‏Verified account @DanWolken  4h4 hours ago
Rick Pitino is the most successful person in history who never knows anything important

[GGGG]

https://www.theringer.com/platform/amp/2017/9/26/16371360/fbi-sting-operation-assistant-coach-arrests-scandal

Yeah this pretty much nails it.  With this much money involved, and a significant number of people aren't getting their fair share (as determined by the marketplace), this is going to happen. 

Let them profit off their own likeness.  If you can cap it then cap it.  If you want to run it through the schools, then do that.  If you want to place the money in escrow and limit withdrawls until they leave the school, then try that too.

But complete amateurism is dead.  And probably has been for awhile.

[B. McBannerson]

Yeah this pretty much nails it.  With this much money involved, and a significant number of people aren't getting their fair share (as determined by the marketplace), this is going to happen. 

Let them profit off their own likeness.  If you can cap it then cap it.  If you want to run it through the schools, then do that.  If you want to place the money in escrow and limit withdrawls until they leave the school, then try that too.

But complete amateurism is dead.  And probably has been for awhile.

That will fix it 

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Maybe if you were an employed American in the United States with a real career these types of comments would not come out?

PS- Myles Turner... 2013 http://latenighthoops.com/ny2la-spring-2013-mn/#.WcsR_VtSzIU

We get it, you're soooooo important and gods gift to earth, and "kids these days" should just shut up, take their licks, and not question authority because they're not worthy of receiving appropriate compensation.

Even those here who agree with you, and don't think players should be paid, think they should be able to profit off their own likeness.

Or something like that.

[Jay Bee]

Yeah this pretty much nails it.  With this much money involved, and a significant number of people aren't getting their fair share (as determined by the marketplace), this is going to happen. 

Let them profit off their own likeness.  If you can cap it then cap it.  If you want to run it through the schools, then do that.  If you want to place the money in escrow and limit withdrawls until they leave the school, then try that too.

But complete amateurism is dead.  And probably has been for awhile.

Completely disagree.

[Jay Bee]

We get it, you're soooooo important and gods gift to earth, and "kids these days" should just shut up, take their licks, and not question authority because they're not worthy of receiving appropriate compensation.

Or something like that.

Why are you talking about me being important and gods gift to earth? I just pointed out that you, by your own admission, were living in a foreign country and were having trouble finding low paying jobs. Stop making it into more than it is. The topic is minimal (you).

Prospective student athletes should only agree to contracts they wish to engage in, just like any other adult. Simple. If they don't like it, don't do it.

[GGGG]

That will fix it 

It doesn't deserve to be fixed.  It's a sham.