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#32 BPI Ranking
« on: July 28, 2017, 01:01:09 PM »
Not sure how espn calculates this but BPI has us at 32 which sounds good to me. Anyone know how accurate this is?

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/20163677/surprise-experienced-wichita-state-shockers-top-summer-bpi-update
« Last Edit: July 28, 2017, 01:04:41 PM by BagpipingBoxer »
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Re: #33 BPI Ranking
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2017, 01:04:01 PM »
It is interesting.

I'll just be patient and wait on Kenpom.

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Re: #32 BPI Ranking
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2017, 01:18:44 PM »
Never been a big fan of BPI. I'm gonna go on record and say the following rankings are way off:

#4 Notre Dame (too high)
#8 Oklahoma (too high)
#21 Arkansas (too high)
#23 Iowa (too high)
#24 Auburn (too high)
#27 Florida (too low)
#29 Ohio State (too high)
#34 Mississippi State (too high)
#35 Mississippi (too high)
#36 Davidson (too high)
#41 Temple (too high)
#43 USC (too low)
NR UCLA (too low)
NR Gonzaga (too low)
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Re: #32 BPI Ranking
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2017, 01:59:04 PM »
OSU a true 29 lmao.

Oklahoma hahah

USC and Gonzaga barely ranked and not ranked.

Unreal
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Re: #32 BPI Ranking
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2017, 02:16:40 PM »
All in means is that people are waking up to the fact that we may well have something at Marquette.

The Motown Trio, Froling plus strong returning guards in Rowsey and Howard plus emerging really good players in Sam and Hanni and we have the makings of a team.

I was wondering how long it would take before the rest of the world began to notice.

This is ahead of schedule.

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Re: #32 BPI Ranking
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2017, 02:22:37 PM »
Not sure how espn calculates this but BPI has us at 32 which sounds good to me. Anyone know how accurate this is?

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/20163677/surprise-experienced-wichita-state-shockers-top-summer-bpi-update

Probably has as much credibility as the crystal bowel....
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Re: #32 BPI Ranking
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2017, 02:39:56 PM »
All in means is that people are waking up to the fact that we may well have something at Marquette.

The Motown Trio, Froling plus strong returning guards in Rowsey and Howard plus emerging really good players in Sam and Hanni and we have the makings of a team.

I was wondering how long it would take before the rest of the world began to notice.

This is ahead of schedule.

I hope so but BPI is based on an objective formula. So ESPN put some data in a formula and it spit out these rankings.
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Re: #32 BPI Ranking
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2017, 02:56:52 PM »
I hope so but BPI is based on an objective formula. So ESPN put some data in a formula and it spit out these rankings.

The nice thing is that once everybody gets on the court, the ref doesn't pretend to toss the ball, hold it instead, laugh, and say, "I declare XXXXXX the winner because they have the better BPI!"
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Re: #32 BPI Ranking
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2017, 03:18:05 PM »

Comparing BPI, AP and USA Today to the final top 25 rankings, I don't see that BPI is all that far off--they had some misses, but so did AP and USA Today. And they had Michigan and Notre Dame in their preseason top 25, which both AP and USA Today left out.

   Team      BPI Pre      Ap Pre      USA pre      AP Final      USA Final   
   Duke      1      1      1      7      7   
   Villanova      2      4      3      1      1   
   Kansas      3      3      2      3      3   
   North Carolina      4      6      6      5      8   
   Kentucky      5      4      4      6      5   
   Oregon      6      5      5      9      9   
   Purdue      7      15      15      15      15   
   Louisville      8      13      14      10      10   
   West Virginia      9      20      18      13      12   
   NC State      10      unr      unr      unr      unr   
   Syracuse      11      19      17      unr      unr   
   Ohio State      12      unr      unr      unr      unr   
   Virginia      13      8      7      24      23   
   UCLA      14      16      20      8      6   
   Arizona      15      10      11      4      5   
   Michigan      16      unr      unr      23      26   
   Xavier      17      7      8      unr      unr   
   Gonzaga      18      14      13      2      2   
   Indiana      19      11      12      unr      unr   
   Michigan State      20      12      9      unr      unr   
   Georgetown      21      unr      unr      unr      urn   
   Saint Mary's      22      17      19      22      21   
   Notre Dame      23      unr      unr      14      14   
   Cincinnati      24      unr      25      18      16   
   Dayton      25      unr      unr      unr      unr   

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Re: #32 BPI Ranking
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2017, 04:28:04 PM »
You're chart shows that BPI gets most right but then is way off the deep end on some. NC State finished as a Sub 100 team. Ohio State was barely top 75. Georgetown was barely top 75.

I'm not sure what it is about their formula but there's something that makes it overvalue certain teams by a ton. Decently accurate for most but way off for a few.
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Re: #32 BPI Ranking
« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2017, 04:53:27 PM »
Nice.    But it means nothing. 
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Re: #32 BPI Ranking
« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2017, 07:04:26 PM »
Maybe I'm mistaken, but I believe BPI ignores transfers until they play for their new team but does count high school recruits.

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Re: #32 BPI Ranking
« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2017, 07:53:41 PM »
Maybe I'm mistaken, but I believe BPI ignores transfers until they play for their new team but does count high school recruits.

Correct
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Re: #32 BPI Ranking
« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2017, 09:37:17 PM »
I am hopeful that we will be quite good.

But let's be real, I start each year like that and I don't give up hope until all hope is gone. Such is fandom.

The talent is there this year.
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Re: #32 BPI Ranking
« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2017, 10:09:25 PM »
Maybe I'm mistaken, but I believe BPI ignores transfers until they play for their new team but does count high school recruits.

1) appears to be true
2) makes absolutely no sense

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Re: #32 BPI Ranking
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2017, 10:23:16 PM »
1) appears to be true
2) makes absolutely no sense

I agree with this analysis
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Re: #32 BPI Ranking
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Re: #32 BPI Ranking
« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2017, 10:08:09 AM »
Sweet! #32?
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Re: #32 BPI Ranking
« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2017, 11:49:01 AM »
Interesting to consider the offense and defense splits.  Yes, we can all agree BPI isn't perfect, but by this calculation, with the exception of Wake Forest's defense, MU's defense is the lowest ranking of any single side of the ball among the top 30 teams. 

Who would've guessed THAT when we hired floor-slappin' Wojo?!?!
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« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2017, 12:10:46 PM »
Interesting to consider the offense and defense splits.  Yes, we can all agree BPI isn't perfect, but by this calculation, with the exception of Wake Forest's defense, MU's defense is the lowest ranking of any single side of the ball among the top 30 teams. 

Who would've guessed THAT when we hired floor-slappin' Wojo?!?!

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Re: #32 BPI Ranking
« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2017, 09:14:29 PM »
Interesting to consider the offense and defense splits.  Yes, we can all agree BPI isn't perfect, but by this calculation, with the exception of Wake Forest's defense, MU's defense is the lowest ranking of any single side of the ball among the top 30 teams.

Who would've guessed THAT when we hired floor-slappin' Wojo?!?!

Just a guess, but maybe that's why MU isn't in the top 30.
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