2018 NFC North/NFL thread

[jesmu84]

As a Bears fan, I can pretty much kiss the next 4/5 years goodbye.

The rebuild seemed to be headed in a great direction until tonight.

Ryan Pace bought himself 2-3 years - until Trubisky is declared a success or failure.

[rocket surgeon]

As a Bears fan, I can pretty much kiss the next 4/5 years goodbye.

The rebuild seemed to be headed in a great direction until tonight.

Ryan Pace bought himself 2-3 years - until Trubisky is declared a success or failure.

actually, i wish the bears would have taken anyone BUT trubisky.  i believe he may become a pretty good nfl qb.  one we are going to have to deal with for a few years more than i'd like.  he's a tough kid who reminds of a dude from kiln, mississippi   

[jesmu84]

I had no real problem with Trubisky. But not for giving up all those picks.

[GGGG]

I had no real problem with Trubisky. But not for giving up all those picks.

If he becomes a decent quarterback, those picks were worth it. 

[Jay Bee]

SKOL VIKINGS, we the best.

Kind of missing having any picks this year... but at least we have Sam Bradford, ai ner?

[StillAWarrior]

If he becomes a decent quarterback, those picks were worth it.

Except I think he would have been there at No. 3. If so, they gave the picks for nothing.

[wadesworld]

Except I think he would have been there at No. 3. If so, they gave the picks for nothing.

Yup. Agreed.

[GGGG]

Maybe.  Who knows if someone else was interested in trading.

Regardless, if he's good, the picks don't matter.  No one is going to say "yeah but the picks..."

[RushmoreAcademy]

Might as well. In fact, might as well pick a qb with every pick til you get one because you won't win with one.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Yup. Agreed.

Except I think he would have been there at No. 3. If so, they gave the picks for nothing.

I dislike the value that they gave up but they absolutely don't make that move if they think he is there at 3. Seems likely Cleveland wanted to trade up for him.

Ultimately, if he turns into a franchise QB it's a great deal. Otherwise it is awful. There's no in-between.

I expect the Bears to try to trade down with their 2nd round pick to recoup assets.

[MerrittsMustache]

Apparently Trubisky had no meetings with the Bears, no workouts, nothing. Just a brief interview at the combine. They didn't even call him in the green room to let him know they were about to draft him. Trubisky must have been as surprised as everyone else.

Bears gonna Bear.

[Dr. Blackheart]

If he becomes a decent quarterback, those picks were worth it.

Needs to be better than decent for what was sacrificed.

[StillAWarrior]

I dislike the value that they gave up but they absolutely don't make that move if they think he is there at 3. Seems likely Cleveland wanted to trade up for him.

Ultimately, if he turns into a franchise QB it's a great deal. Otherwise it is awful. There's no in-between.

I expect the Bears to try to trade down with their 2nd round pick to recoup assets.

I have no doubt they "thought" that. I do, however, doubt that it was correct. They got conned.

But, you're right. If he's a good QB, everything will be good.

[GGGG]

Needs to be better than decent for what was sacrificed.

He'll be playing for the Bears.  Decent will make him the best quarterback in franchise history.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

I have no doubt they "thought" that. I do, however, doubt that it was correct. They got conned.

But, you're right. If he's a good QB, everything will be good.

Quite possible they got conned.

But the fact Cleveland needed a QB and didn't make a move for Mahomes and traded down when Watson was available tells me they might have been willing to trade a bounty to move up for Trubisky. Just a guess but definitely feasible.

[StillAWarrior]

Did that Broncos draft pick just say that his baby will remember this day the rest of his life?  My wife's comment when she saw him, "he doesn't look very bright."  I know nothing about him, but I defended him, saying O Line are usually reasonably bright. Then he opened his mouth and made both of us look like idiots.

[GGGG]

Did that Broncos draft pick just say that his baby will remember this day the rest of his life? 

Yes.  After he said that he would be drafted too.

[Dr. Blackheart]

He'll be playing for the Bears.  Decent will make him the best quarterback in franchise history.

Hey now, Jay just passed Sid this past season...

[StillAWarrior]

Quite possible they got conned.

But the fact Cleveland needed a QB and didn't make a move for Mahomes and traded down when Watson was available tells me they might have been willing to trade a bounty to move up for Trubisky. Just a guess but definitely feasible.

Definitely feasible. But I honestly have a hard time believing the Browns were going to take No. 1 and No. 2.  I think if he was there at 12, Browns would have taken him. But there was a some thinking that the Browns realized that they're not ready to take care of a QB and would wait until next year.   Your theory is feasible. I think they got conned.

I think those fact actually suggest they're going to be patient and not over-reach for a QB. Trubisky at No. 2 is definitely a reach.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Definitely feasible. But I honestly have a hard time believing the Browns were going to take No. 1 and No. 2.  I think if he was there at 12, Browns would have taken him. But there was a some thinking that the Browns realized that they're not ready to take care of a QB and would wait until next year.   Your theory is feasible. I think they got conned.

My preference was they draft Adams or Thomas at 3. Didn't like the move and just trying to consider all the possibilities.

My hope is I am utterly and completely wrong. I'll be very surprised if they don't trade down tomorrow.

[MerrittsMustache]

I have no doubt they "thought" that. I do, however, doubt that it was correct. They got conned.

But, you're right. If he's a good QB, everything will be good.

If a QB is the real deal, giving up all of your picks to get him would be worth it.

Is Trubisky the real deal? I doubt it but I hope I'm wrong.

[StillAWarrior]

If a QB is the real deal, giving up all of your picks to get him would be worth it.

Is Trubisky the real deal? I doubt it but I hope I'm wrong.

I agree...but only to a point. You have to have the personnel to protect him. If not, it's a wasted pick. I still believe Tim Couch was the real deal. The Browns destroyed him. I'm glad the Browns seem to be showing some patience. I'm glad they're not going to destroy Trubisky. I watched him in HS and think he's very good and hope he does great in Chicago. I'm cautiously optimistic that the Browns are making smart moves. I may change my mind in about 90 seconds with this next pick.

[GB Warrior]

Except I think he would have been there at No. 3. If so, they gave the picks for nothing.

Yep. Get that you want the QB, but that's twice Pace just bid against himself

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Yep. Get that you want the QB, but that's twice Pace just bid against himself

Possible but you have no idea that's the case.

Last year it was pretty likely the Giants wanted Floyd.

[tower912]

Davis is a solid pick by the Lions.   They desperately need linebacking help.    This fills a need.   No character issues.    A little worried about his injury history.   But he has certainly been productive at Florida when he has been on the field.