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silverback

As the cocks go about wrecking Baylor here thus far, thanks for their obviously low bracket spot and for sending MU into a home game with them. (Is there a Scoop approved emoji for a middle finger?)

#UnleashSean

Welcome to Marquette seeding, where even when were a 3 seed, we play away games. (Cough Murray St)

wadesworld

The seed was fine, if not generous. The location was not.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

GoldenZebra

They were seeded based on their performance during the year...

forgetful

Quote from: wadesworld on March 24, 2017, 07:33:56 PM
The seed was fine, if not generous. The location was not.

Agreed.  They underperformed in conference season, and deserved their seed (or more realistically an 8).  They've got their crap together and officiating has been allowing them to defend super-aggressive.  Add in a Senior star (Thornwell) and you have a really difficult team to play.

muguru

Quote from: forgetful on March 24, 2017, 08:31:34 PM
Agreed.  They underperformed in conference season, and deserved their seed (or more realistically an 8).  They've got their crap together and officiating has been allowing them to defend super-aggressive.  Add in a Senior star (Thornwell) and you have a really difficult team to play.

How much do you want to bet though, if UW advances tonight to play USC, all of a sudden USC will come crashing back to earth..the shots will suddenly not fall, their supper agressive, physical perimiter defense will get whistled for fouls(when they haven't all tournament). This is the kind of sh*t that happens for Wisconsin in the NCAA's.
"Being realistic is the most common path to mediocrity." Will Smith

We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

brewcity77

Quote from: wadesworld on March 24, 2017, 07:33:56 PM
The seed was fine, if not generous. The location was not.

+1

The only problem with USC's seed is it was too high. Just because they've wrecked three opponents doesn't mean they were incorrectly seeded.

forgetful

Quote from: muguru on March 24, 2017, 08:35:20 PM
How much do you want to bet though, if UW advances tonight to play USC, all of a sudden USC will come crashing back to earth..the shots will suddenly not fall, their supper agressive, physical perimiter defense will get whistled for fouls(when they haven't all tournament). This is the kind of sh*t that happens for Wisconsin in the NCAA's.

Oh I fully expect this to happen.  Suddenly their normal defense will become a foul fest.

bobnoxious

Hopefully Florida can do their part in preventing this

wadesworld

Quote from: bobnoxious on March 24, 2017, 09:50:13 PM
Hopefully Florida can do their part in preventing this

Don't see it. This offense is bad. While I'd love to defend like heck, I'm sure glad I get to watch our offense instead of Baylor's or Florida's. No identity at all.

Jockey

Quote from: silverback on March 24, 2017, 07:14:24 PM
As the cocks go about wrecking Baylor here thus far, thanks for their obviously low bracket spot and for sending MU into a home game with them. (Is there a Scoop approved emoji for a middle finger?)

There is a particular reason it was a home game for them.

bilsu

Quote from: forgetful on March 24, 2017, 08:31:34 PM
Agreed.  They underperformed in conference season, and deserved their seed (or more realistically an 8).  They've got their crap together and officiating has been allowing them to defend super-aggressive.  Add in a Senior star (Thornwell) and you have a really difficult team to play.
The trouble with this is the SEC had no respect. Having three teams in the elite 8 shows they were much better than most people thought.

brewcity77

Quote from: bilsu on March 25, 2017, 12:12:41 AM
The trouble with this is the SEC had no respect. Having three teams in the elite 8 shows they were much better than most people thought.

No it doesn't.

wadesworld

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 25, 2017, 12:17:13 AM
No it doesn't.

Ehh, it pretty much does.  Even the teams that aren't in the E8 showed well.  They were underrated.

GGGG

Both Kentucky and Florida beat higher seeds the entire way so I'm not really sure what it means.

🏀

Quote from: wadesworld on March 25, 2017, 01:08:31 AM
Ehh, it pretty much does.  Even the teams that aren't in the E8 showed well.  They were underrated.

They were rated exactly where their four months of play rated them at. The tournament doesn't change that. That's a bad narrative, leave it for the bad TV analysts.

brewcity77

Quote from: wadesworld on March 25, 2017, 01:08:31 AM
Ehh, it pretty much does.  Even the teams that aren't in the E8 showed well.  They were underrated.

Kentucky was in the top-10. This is no surprise. Florida was top-20 and beat two teams (Virginia & Wisconsin) ranked behind them. This is no surprise.

So basically, because of one team overachieving, the SEC was underrated? That's BS. Pure complete BS. Was the ACC crap because only UNC is still standing? Was the Big 10 better than expected because they put three in the Sweet 16, or are they crap because they put zero in the Elite 8?

These narratives are all BS. Don't subscribe to stupidity like this, you're better than that.

cheebs09

By that measure, he Big East is underrated due to Xavier making the Elite 8. However, overrated because Villanova lost early. Otherwise, I think we pretty much went to seed other than Creighton.

mufvr

the fact that SC played a home game against MU is not why they won.  It made it easier but they were clearly the better team. 

romey

I've been thinking about the seeding debate since selection Sunday.  Having listened ad nauseam to BADger fans complain about their seed, and the talk of USC's "home game" and I think a point many in the general population is missing, is this.  When your conference places multiple teams in the dance (7 or even 10)where do you place them?

There are only 4 of each seed, and 4 regions to put them in.  The committee tries to avoid early round same conference matchups.  So if you make a BEast team a 7, then you that eliminates one 10 seed for the rest of the BEast.  You can't have Seton Hall a 7 and MU a 10 in the same region.  The more teams you have in the dance, the more you have to spread them out.  Then you also have to consider the rest of the variables - "home court", TV viewership (potential Wojo vs. Duke) etc.

I told the BADger faithful who complained about the 8 seed that I thought 8 was fair given their "slide" into the end of the year.  And winning two games inttheBig14 tourney didn't impress me as much as it did their faithful - they beat two teams they should've beaten.  But I agreed the issue was that OTHER Big14 teams (that's you Minny) had better seeds. 

MarquetteDano

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 25, 2017, 07:51:07 AM
Kentucky was in the top-10. This is no surprise. Florida was top-20 and beat two teams (Virginia & Wisconsin) ranked behind them. This is no surprise.

So basically, because of one team overachieving, the SEC was underrated? That's BS. Pure complete BS. Was the ACC crap because only UNC is still standing? Was the Big 10 better than expected because they put three in the Sweet 16, or are they crap because they put zero in the Elite 8?

These narratives are all BS. Don't subscribe to stupidity like this, you're better than that.

Brew,

  They are 10-2.  C'mon man.  Everyone has been disparaging the SEC for years.  Give them their due.  They have been kicking ass in the tourney.

awilhelmscream

Quote from: mufvr on March 25, 2017, 09:06:11 AM
the fact that SC played a home game against MU is not why they won.  It made it easier but they were clearly the better team.

SC wanted it more but I was there and you're crazy if you believe the home court advantage wasn't a major factor in that game.  Every time MU got some momentum that place got deafeningly loud then somehow got even louder when SC got the momentum.

wadesworld

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 25, 2017, 07:51:07 AM
Kentucky was in the top-10. This is no surprise. Florida was top-20 and beat two teams (Virginia & Wisconsin) ranked behind them. This is no surprise.

So basically, because of one team overachieving, the SEC was underrated? That's BS. Pure complete BS. Was the ACC crap because only UNC is still standing? Was the Big 10 better than expected because they put three in the Sweet 16, or are they crap because they put zero in the Elite 8?

These narratives are all BS. Don't subscribe to stupidity like this, you're better than that.

Here's the thing. When asked who everyone is rooting for in the NCAA Tournament almost all responses are about rooting for the BE teams. Wanting Nova to go back to back. Wanting to prove ourselves as a league. Rooting for teams we hate throughout the regular season because it somehow validates our conference.

But now the SEC doing well doesn't validate their conference? It's utter BS to think the NCAA Tournament results change the perception of the conference? But if Nova was in the E8, Butler had beat UNC, MU had beat SC and lost to Duke, SH beat Arkansas, Creighton beat RI we'd be talking about how we have the greatest conference in the country and the ACC was down to 1 team after the first weekend and football is for the south and the B10 has no E8 teams.

Okay, got it.  :o

brewcity77

Quote from: MarquetteDano on March 25, 2017, 10:16:39 AM
Brew,

  They are 10-2.  C'mon man.  Everyone has been disparaging the SEC for years.  Give them their due.  They have been kicking ass in the tourney.

And they've won as the favored seed 8 times. So two wins they weren't expected to get, or one less than Xavier has.

I'm not saying that proves anything about X, because it doesn't. But people overblow these results and use it to falsely claim a conference is superior.

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