Seed

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Missouri Valley mandates that their schools play teams in the top half of RPI, which helps boost the general level of the conference.

Certainly didn't work this year.

[Herman Cain]

Certainly didn't work this year.

I was just responding to the question about why Illinois State has a  low RPI with few quality wins.   The  MVC may have lousy teams in the conference but they play better non conference opponents .Playing good teams  Doesn't make up for losing a lot though. So for example in our conference St. Johns screwed everyone by having the gall to lose 3 games to bad teams in non conference, then they come around and had 7 conference wins.  So now the teams in our conference who lost to the Johnnies  are tarred with a worse lose .

[RushmoreAcademy]

Lord, three years of being left out has really turned some Marquette fans irrational.

That makes sense. I remember the confidence we had when we first missed the tournament a few years back after so much success. There was some shock even though the proof was right there in front of us. Now we are adjusting back.

[auburnmarquette]

9

If they go heavy top 50 wins this could happen. No other team competing for these seeds is close to our 8-7.

I'd rather be a 10 though.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

If they go heavy top 50 wins this could happen. No other team competing for these seeds is close to our 8-7.

I'd rather be a 10 though.

I thought we needed 20 win, Auburn?
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=53679.msg904788#msg904788

Just ribbin' ya. But I am confident enough that we'll make it to make the claim that I nailed those bubble scenerios pretty much to a T.

[NotAnAlum]

Latest Lunardi projection has us still an 11 but now facing Minn with the next game Baylor.  We are now closer to the play in than we were but I like this draw much better than before.  Think us vs Minn would be a toss up and Baylor is known for not playing up to season form in the tourney.  Now lets hope for no bid thieves which would push us off the bye line.  All it takes is 2 since I believe major conference champs can't be put in the Dayton play in.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Latest Lunardi projection has us still an 11 but now facing Minn with the next game Baylor.  We are now closer to the play in than we were but I like this draw much better than before.  Think us vs Minn would be a toss up and Baylor is known for not playing up to season form in the tourney.  Now lets hope for no bid thieves which would push us off the bye line.  All it takes is 2 since I believe major conference champs can't be put in the Dayton play in.

Lunardi also basically sealed up his field today assuming no bid stealers, because he only shows two teams - Illinois State and Rhode Island - as his first teams out.

[fjm]

CBS Writer may have just leaked that we are DEFINITELY in the field:
String of tweets from @mattnorlander:

Some general thoughts after talking with selection committee members this morning in Manhattan. ...

Seems like the No.1  overall seed is still up for debate—as is the discussion in terms of who gets the four 1s.

As of 9 a.m., not one team was seeded, officially. I think that probably changes by noon. Seed scrubbing will be diligent today, again.

Cmte this yr is much, much further along in the process than it was last ar. My interpretation is the bracket(s) will be nearly done tonight


Reminder that the sel. cmte has firmly stated principles and procedures. RPI-colored decisions are inevitable, Hopefully this is the last yr

Also: committee members do not reference individual bracketologists in-season, but they do consult bit.ly/Y8j8bH. For instance ...

If cmte has Team X as a 5, but BracketMatrix has that team as a 3 or a 7, they will step back and just make sure all boxes have been checked

I do think cmte is very intrigued by the three top P-12 teams, and where to place them, how to seed. Same for Hall/Marq/Providence/Xavier.


Last thought: Few cmte members told me countering data on team resumes (teams in 6-9 seed range) will make for interesting choices. I agree.


---these tweets were posted in a string of tweets from 0954-1006 this morning.

[RushmoreAcademy]

CBS Writer may have just leaked that we are DEFINITELY in the field:
String of tweets from @mattnorlander:

Some general thoughts after talking with selection committee members this morning in Manhattan. ...

Seems like the No.1  overall seed is still up for debate—as is the discussion in terms of who gets the four 1s.

As of 9 a.m., not one team was seeded, officially. I think that probably changes by noon. Seed scrubbing will be diligent today, again.

Cmte this yr is much, much further along in the process than it was last ar. My interpretation is the bracket(s) will be nearly done tonight


Reminder that the sel. cmte has firmly stated principles and procedures. RPI-colored decisions are inevitable, Hopefully this is the last yr

Also: committee members do not reference individual bracketologists in-season, but they do consult bit.ly/Y8j8bH. For instance ...

If cmte has Team X as a 5, but BracketMatrix has that team as a 3 or a 7, they will step back and just make sure all boxes have been checked

I do think cmte is very intrigued by the three top P-12 teams, and where to place them, how to seed. Same for Hall/Marq/Providence/Xavier.


Last thought: Few cmte members told me countering data on team resumes (teams in 6-9 seed range) will make for interesting choices. I agree.


---these tweets were posted in a string of tweets from 0954-1006 this morning.

Best thing I've read all day.

[fjm]

Agreed. Just curious as to what they mean concerning RPI colored decisions.
I'm thinking they mean RPI, RPI too 50/100 wins

[brewcity77]

Love it. It is an interesting question. Need to pull back from those teams and just look at the numbers. But will be very interesting, we have the best win and computer rankings but worst RPI, Xavier has the best RPI and SOS, and while Seton Hall and Providence are in the middle of RPI, SOS, and bottom of computer rankings, they have a combined 6-4 record against the other two.

[fjm]

Sorry if this was already posted.

Newest bracketmatrix has us up to the 2nd #10 seed. One spot higher than yesterday.

[cheese ball chaser]

CBS Writer may have just leaked that we are DEFINITELY in the field:
String of tweets from @mattnorlander:

Some general thoughts after talking with selection committee members this morning in Manhattan. ...

Seems like the No.1  overall seed is still up for debate—as is the discussion in terms of who gets the four 1s.

As of 9 a.m., not one team was seeded, officially. I think that probably changes by noon. Seed scrubbing will be diligent today, again.

Cmte this yr is much, much further along in the process than it was last ar. My interpretation is the bracket(s) will be nearly done tonight


Reminder that the sel. cmte has firmly stated principles and procedures. RPI-colored decisions are inevitable, Hopefully this is the last yr

Also: committee members do not reference individual bracketologists in-season, but they do consult bit.ly/Y8j8bH. For instance ...

If cmte has Team X as a 5, but BracketMatrix has that team as a 3 or a 7, they will step back and just make sure all boxes have been checked

I do think cmte is very intrigued by the three top P-12 teams, and where to place them, how to seed. Same for Hall/Marq/Providence/Xavier.


Last thought: Few cmte members told me countering data on team resumes (teams in 6-9 seed range) will make for interesting choices. I agree.


---these tweets were posted in a string of tweets from 0954-1006 this morning.

#donedeal?

[jsglow]

I really think you can throw a blanket over 4 BEast teams in question.  While one might end up in Dayton, I really think there's no chance the committee sends one to the NIT.  Who and on what basis relative to the other 3?

And I could be way off but it really does seem to me that the committee will find 4 teams to send to Dayton from other conferences.  For example, if they feel strongly about Cuse being in the field, the ONLY option is Dayton. Wake, USC, Kansas St., maybe Illinois State if they're feeling generous and there's no stolen bids?  None of those schools have the resume of the 4 BEast teams. 

I suppose if I was forced to send one I'd pick X (respecting conference final standings) or Providence (too many bad losses).  But I think all are clustered from about 36 to about 42 on the S-curve.

[muguru]

I really think you can throw a blanket over 4 BEast teams in question.  While one might end up in Dayton, I really think there's no chance the committee sends one to the NIT.  Who and on what basis relative to the other 3?

And I could be way off but it really does seem to me that the committee will find 4 teams to send to Dayton from other conferences.  For example, if they feel strongly about Cuse being in the field, the ONLY option is Dayton. Wake, USC, Kansas St., maybe Illinois State if they're feeling generous and there's no stolen bids?  None of those schools have the resume of the 4 BEast teams. 

I suppose if I was forced to send one I'd pick X (respecting conference final standings) or Providence (too many bad losses).  But I think all are clustered from about 36 to about 42 on the S-curve.

My worry is with 7 BE teams, of which 4-5 are relatively equal..for purposes of balancing the bracket..a BE team could end up in Dayton. Could be MU. If only 6 BE teams make it..PC has to be the team out..based on the fact they are the ONLY major conference team under consideration with 2 sub 200 RPI losses.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

My worry is with 7 BE teams, of which 4-5 are relatively equal..for purposes of balancing the bracket..a BE team could end up in Dayton. Could be MU. If only 6 BE teams make it..PC has to be the team out..based on the fact they are the ONLY major conference team under consideration with 2 sub 200 RPI losses.

Guru, you're gonna give yourself an ulser. Relax brother. We'll know soon enough.