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Milkshakes

Let's talk Seton Hall. I have not been watching but they have won their last 4 and 7 of their last 9. One of those losses was the Wildcats.  Tough first round matchup. When we split with them it was a different MU team. My guess based on their recent run is that it is a different Seton Hall team too. How do we match up?

We R Final Four


naginiF

Far from a CBB expert but i see them much like us, they may be playing their best ball of the year off of the Butler win, but also like us they have a couple of head scratchers (hello St. Johns).  However, they are 'like us' only in results and momentum not in makeup - they are old school BigEast brawn.  Couple of points:

- in another thread someone posted this link http://www.bigeast.com/custompages/sports/m-baskbl/2016-2017/confonly.htm.  Delgado's rebound numbers are insane - over 2X the raw number of rebounds of the #2 in the BEast.  Keeping him in the low double:double neighborhood i.e. 12-10, would be big.  Bagging on Fish or MH for not keeping him in check is being overly critical
- Matt V tweeted that Sanogo may be out due to ankle injury.  I'm not real knowledgeable on SH's bench but, though he doesn't fill the stat sheet, he is a big body with 20+ mpg.  so a change in personnel at a minimum.

IMHO - if we can keep the spacing and move the ball we win.  if they impose their physicality on us, they win.  One of us will get to an early 8 point lead, whichever coach makes the right adjustments from there wins the game.

T-Bone

Agreed. Seaton Hall is a much different team than Seton Hall.

Should be a good game.
I'm like a turtle, sometimes I get run over by a semi.

wadesworld

Compete on the boards/limit second chance opportunities and we win.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: naginiF on March 06, 2017, 08:32:41 PM
Far from a CBB expert but i see them much like us, they may be playing their best ball of the year off of the Butler win, but also like us they have a couple of head scratchers (hello St. Johns).  However, they are 'like us' only in results and momentum not in makeup - they are old school BigEast brawn.  Couple of points:

- in another thread someone posted this link http://www.bigeast.com/custompages/sports/m-baskbl/2016-2017/confonly.htm.  Delgado's rebound numbers are insane - over 2X the raw number of rebounds of the #2 in the BEast.  Keeping him in the low double:double neighborhood i.e. 12-10, would be big.  Bagging on Fish or MH for not keeping him in check is being overly critical
- Matt V tweeted that Sanogo may be out due to ankle injury.  I'm not real knowledgeable on SH's bench but, though he doesn't fill the stat sheet, he is a big body with 20+ mpg.  so a change in personnel at a minimum.

IMHO - if we can keep the spacing and move the ball we win.  if they impose their physicality on us, they win.  One of us will get to an early 8 point lead, whichever coach makes the right adjustments from there wins the game.

Seton Hall has a very short bench. Sanogo is their best defender. That would be huge news.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


naginiF

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 06, 2017, 09:10:24 PM
Seton Hall has a very short bench. Sanogo is their best defender. That would be huge news.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/838810737627783168
I should've linked Matt's twitter - my bad.

brandx


Benny B

Quote from: wadesworld on March 06, 2017, 08:36:10 PM
Compete on the boards/limit second chance opportunities and we win.

True.  But an easier path to victory would be to simply score at least one more point than the other team, no?
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

tower912

Sanogo's absence would be helpful for MU.    Seton Hall is one of those teams whose physicality gives MU problems.   MU is going to have to compete defensively and rain 3's.    Like most nights. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

muwarrior69

Stop the pick and roll, we win.

bilsu

We need to shoot well. We will not win the game, if we are throwing up klunkers. What concerns me is that I believe we are 0-3 in the Garden this year. I think that is where we played Michigan and Pitt.

GoldenDieners32

Need to boxout after every shot. Will be a tough game

GGGG

Quote from: bilsu on March 07, 2017, 06:48:59 AM
We need to shoot well. We will not win the game, if we are throwing up klunkers.


Mind-blowing analysis.

WayOfTheWarrior

Flop Grayson Allen style and get Delgado to foul out in the first half. That should do it...

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Wait, the "Seaton Hall" thing wasn't on purpose?  Oh my. 
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Didn't realize that Jevon Thomas transferred from the hall. Without Ish, that leaves them with a 6 man rotation. Nzei is the backup for all 5 starters. Run em up and down the court and do whatever you can to draw contact on Delgado.

Carrington gets all the hype but Rodriguez is actually the better wing. Stop him or Delgado and you win. If both go off, you're in trouble.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Bocephys

Someone on twitter pointed out that this is a Title Belt match-up.  We won it earlier this year vs Creighton and gave it up a week later.

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Golden Avalanche

Hall has mastered the ability to look amazing for five minutes, average for 32 1/2 minutes leading to a two possession game in the final 90 seconds only to have the opposing team miss shots and get fouled themselves every time down the court on offense. It's been a dumpster fire end to the season for a dumpster fire program.

The way MU is running offense right now there is every bit of expectation they can bomb the Hall out of MSG.

GoldenDieners32

Need this game if we want to play buzz in the NCAAs

barfolomew

So if we know Sanogo is a no-go, we are good to go.
Relationes Incrementum Victoria

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: Golden Avalanche on March 07, 2017, 10:37:36 AM
Hall has mastered the ability to look amazing for five minutes, average for 32 1/2 minutes leading to a two possession game in the final 90 seconds only to have the opposing team miss shots and get fouled themselves every time down the court on offense. It's been a dumpster fire end to the season for a dumpster fire program.

The way MU is running offense right now there is every bit of expectation they can bomb the Hall out of MSG.

If winning 4 in a row and 7/9 is categorized as a dumpster fire, where do I sign up?  Don't let your hatred for a program cloud your vision of what is a pretty solid team.
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

wadesworld

Quote from: GoldenEagles32 on March 07, 2017, 10:53:58 AM
Need this game if we want to play buzz in the NCAAs

This game has no meaning whatsoever for an NCAA Tournament run.  In fact, losing it might help more than winning the game would.

GoldenDieners32

Quote from: wadesworld on March 07, 2017, 11:01:46 AM
This game has no meaning whatsoever for an NCAA Tournament run.  In fact, losing it might help more than winning the game would.
if we lose we would probably be an 11 seed right?

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: GoldenEagles32 on March 07, 2017, 11:02:29 AM
if we lose we would probably be an 11 seed right?

Maybe.  Maybe a 10.  Maybe an 8 or 9.  I think we're going to be surprised by our seed, and I honestly think there are at least a dozen teams between us and the bubble. 
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

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