Wojo

[GoldenDieners32]

My dream scenario is that a desperate P5 school hires Wojo. We get the benefit of his contract buyout . Then we give Stan the job. He would likely keep Nelson .

The recruits are all tied into Stan.

Would stan be a good head coach though?

[Herman Cain]

At this point, I have to assume teal, alternative facts, or opposite day, every time  I read one of your posts.

Or Groundhog Day movie

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

My dream scenario is that a desperate P5 school hires Wojo. We get the benefit of his contract buyout . Then we give Stan the job. He would likely keep Nelson .

The recruits are all tied into Stan.

Allow me to rephrase. I'm confused why you are so unhappy with the coaching staff's performance but want to hire one of them as our next head coach? Is your theory that Stan is secretly a great coach but Wojo is holding him back?

[TSmith34, Inc.]

At this point, I have to assume teal, alternative facts, or opposite day, every time  I read one of your posts.

I said it long ago, its performance art.

[GGGG]

I said it long ago, its performance art.

Yeah the Mo Watson crap was the performance art equivalent of a 3 year old's finger painting.

[Herman Cain]

Allow me to rephrase. I'm confused why you are so unhappy with the coaching staff's performance but want to hire one of them as our next head coach? Is your theory that Stan is secretly a great coach but Wojo is holding him back?

My theory is Stan is a diamond in the rough. A great recruiter and highly motivational guy . Only so much an assistant can do. I believe he would blossom into coaching greatness as a head coach.  Also he is more in the MU tradition of coaches who have interesting personalities.

I give Wojo credit for hiring Stan. At this point I think our future is better aligned with Stan.

[4everwarriors]

Crean sucks

[Warrior_2002]

Tired of this topic in every thread.  Stupid to fire wojo right now.  A new coach won't get you to NCAA sooner.  Plenty of good coaches haven't gotten to the dance until year 4.  Let it play out.  Like his fire, he's made some bold coaching moves, and he's recruited well.  What he started with sucked and losing ellenson lost us a 4.  In a tough conference that will always be beating each other up (see standings 3-8).  R-E-L-A-X

[wesmat23]

OK....Is it time for a change at coach? We can not finish a game.  We should only have 3 maybe 4 losses in conference.  Blown leads time after time with the best 3 point shooting team in America.  Too many turnovers down the stretch and panic.  That for me is head coach issue.  Wojo can recruit, not sure he is a head coach yet.

Losses like this suck but remember just a couple weeks ago MU was down by 15 at halftime but came back to win against #1 Villinova?!

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Losses like this suck but remember just a couple weeks ago MU was down by 15 at halftime but came back to win against #1 Villinova?!

These posters don't remember that time here at Scoop as they only bubble up from their oily, fecal swamps after a loss.

[bilsu]

Two games left in the season...he still hasn't found his rotation or even his starting five yet.  Consistency is a factor, that is on the head coach.  Halftime adjustments are on the head coach.  We have lost this season in the second half.  We have been outcoached!  He will be a good coach, just needs more time. ...I don't have the patience to wait.

It just may be the players are not winners. The downfall started when Johnson decided to take the game over on his own. He decided to drive with 20 seconds on the shot clock and missed a tough shot and the next time down he missed a short jumper he did not need to take. I doubt that was Wojo's plan. The final nail in the coffin came when Hauser was fouled on a rebound that was not called and then the ball glanced out of him going out of bounds as he layed on the floor. Had they called the foul we would of had a chance to win the game at the free throw line.

[bilsu]

My dream scenario is that a desperate P5 school hires Wojo. We get the benefit of his contract buyout . Then we give Stan the job. He would likely keep Nelson .

The recruits are all tied into Stan.

My dream senario, if Wojo was no longer going to be our coach (which I am not avocating for) would be to steal Butler's coach.

[Lennys Tap]

My dream senario, if Wojo was no longer going to be our coach (which I am not avocating for) would be to steal Butler's coach.

Why would the coach of Butler want to leave to come to Marquette?

[Spaniel with a Short Tail]

These posters don't remember that time here at Scoop as they only bubble up from their oily, fecal swamps after a loss.

[bilsu]

Why would the coach of Butler want to leave to come to Marquette?

It is a dream not a reality. Just like some here thinking we would hire an assistant of the coach we would fire. That is not going to happen either.

[CTWarrior]

It is a dream not a reality. Just like some here thinking we would hire an assistant of the coach we would fire. That is not going to happen either.

It is a pipe dream, but I get why you said it.  Watched them play Xavier today, and they play so well together despite not being a bunch of super highly rated recruits.  They are extremely well coached.

[GGGG]

My dream is that Scoop becomes calm, rational and level-headed.

Ah nevermind.  That would be dull.

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My dream is that Scoop becomes calm, rational and level-headed.

Ah nevermind.  That would be dull.

I'd like just rational. You need to have the rest.

[Herman Cain]

My dream senario, if Wojo was no longer going to be our coach (which I am not avocating for) would be to steal Butler's coach.

That is my my Ann Margret dream coming true

[Goose]

Wojo is not going anywhere soon. While there may be some in BOT disappointed or worse, the seat is not warm at the moment. I am not for Wojo being fired this year and not because of the need of having patience. It is because he has proven that he can land some players, HE and Howard are upper end guys and not easy to land. In addition, I have little confidence that there would be an upgrade if they did change coaches.

[muwarrior69]

I have never played organized sports. So if my questions are naive it is because i have no experience to draw from.

1. How much responsibility falls to the player to improve his own game?
2. How much time does a coach (head or assistant) spend on individual development with each player?
3. Are the players allowed to go over game tape on their own, especially in the off season to see how they can improve their game?
4. Can they ask a coach for individual help in the off season and go over video of their game so they may improve?

It seems to me success on the court is a two-way street. Just asking.

[Galway Eagle]

I have never played organized sports. So if my questions are naive it is because i have no experience to draw from.

1. How much responsibility falls to the player to improve his own game?
2. How much time does a coach (head or assistant) spend on individual development with each player?
3. Are the players allowed to go over game tape on their own, especially in the off season to see how they can improve their game?
4. Can they ask a coach for individual help in the off season and go over video of their game so they may improve?

It seems to me success on the court is a two-way street. Just asking.

Not saying I'm some super athlete but I played 4yrs or varsity lacrosse and two on the MU club team (plus a decade boxing) so here's what what I have for you:

1. Depends on the part of the game you are talking about. If a player can't do an effective crossover, is out of shape, can't hit free throws. Then that's on them alone. But you can't expect them to identify solid lanes or practice effective boxing out alone.

3.  I know we were allowed to go over tape alone for lax and I know I spent ages going over film for golden gloves semis and finals so I would assume so unless the NCAA has a weird rule.

4. Again never been an NCAA athlete (unless you count not making walk on tryouts for the lax team) but my understanding is assistants are given strict practice rules and that the team can't all practice together. Not sure about film study though.

[Herman Cain]

I have never played organized sports. So if my questions are naive it is because i have no experience to draw from.

1. How much responsibility falls to the player to improve his own game?
2. How much time does a coach (head or assistant) spend on individual development with each player?
3. Are the players allowed to go over game tape on their own, especially in the off season to see how they can improve their game?
4. Can they ask a coach for individual help in the off season and go over video of their game so they may improve?

It seems to me success on the court is a two-way street. Just asking.

Really good questions. It definitely is a two way street. Kid has to want to work hard and coaches need to invest time in player development.

Some things can be coached , such as improving shot. However, intangibles such as heart  IQ and hustle are something you have or don't have.

[CAGASS24]

Ridiculous - the tough losses hurt, obviously, but look at the big picture.  We are trending up, getting great players and playing pretty dang good two years removed from the doldrums.  And this after losing a one and don-er  Does Wojo need to keep improving as a coach, yes.  But that is what you get when you hire high upside assistants.  Two years ago the path to success was laid out and we are right on it - don't let the big wins dramatically alter your expectations.  They are building a consistent winner here by all accounts.  Also, I highly, highly disagree that a change in coach would have us in any better of a situation three years from now. 

[MarquetteDano]

Ridiculous - the tough losses hurt, obviously, but look at the big picture.  We are trending up, getting great players and playing pretty dang good two years removed from the doldrums.  And this after losing a one and don-er  Does Wojo need to keep improving as a coach, yes.  But that is what you get when you hire high upside assistants.  Two years ago the path to success was laid out and we are right on it - don't let the big wins dramatically alter your expectations.  They are building a consistent winner here by all accounts.  Also, I highly, highly disagree that a change in coach would have us in any better of a situation three years from now.

Overall I agree but I will bring up again the process is taking some time.  If Wojo continues the recruiting and the game coaching improves things will be good.  But if it takes another 2-3 years to build a winner and then he ups and leaves that would be four years of mediocre to bad with what,  2 years of good?  It will not have been worth it then.