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Author Topic: Does Heldt start the rest of the way?  (Read 17844 times)

Benny B

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Re: Does Heldt start the rest of the way?
« Reply #75 on: February 21, 2017, 09:16:09 PM »
I can't speak for tomorrow, but I will guarantee that if there's a game to be played in Phoenix this year, Heldt is starting both of them.
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Re: Does Heldt start the rest of the way?
« Reply #76 on: February 21, 2017, 09:23:29 PM »
I certainly hope not. This team ain't making the tournament if Matt Heldt is starting and getting more minutes than Luke.
does this game convince you that heldt is better than fish

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Re: Does Heldt start the rest of the way?
« Reply #77 on: February 21, 2017, 09:24:46 PM »
The eye test I guess.  Now that Matt is getting more playing time you can start comparing stats.  Hard to put up stats when you play very sparingly. 

Again, I don't think Matt is more talented than Luke but this is now 2 games in a row where Matt has had extended playing time and he seems to be contributing more than Luke.  I really like the way who moves on the defensive end.

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Re: Does Heldt start the rest of the way?
« Reply #78 on: February 21, 2017, 09:25:56 PM »
does this game convince you that heldt is better than fish


Oh come on.

A game or two doesn't make it so. 

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Re: Does Heldt start the rest of the way?
« Reply #79 on: February 21, 2017, 09:26:25 PM »
does this game convince you that heldt is better than fish

Not even a little bit. 1 game should never convince you of anyone being better than anyone.
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Re: Does Heldt start the rest of the way?
« Reply #80 on: February 21, 2017, 09:27:13 PM »
YES!

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Re: Does Heldt start the rest of the way?
« Reply #81 on: February 21, 2017, 09:30:12 PM »
In a perfect world, Luke feels threatened and becomes beastlike, averaging a double double down the stretch.     But right now, it ain't broke.   
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Re: Does Heldt start the rest of the way?
« Reply #82 on: February 21, 2017, 10:46:23 PM »
Really liked the way Heldt would hedge on screens but then not get stuck out at the 3 point line and then hustle - and I mean hustle! - back to the paint and his man.

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Re: Does Heldt start the rest of the way?
« Reply #83 on: February 21, 2017, 11:06:41 PM »
Really liked the way Heldt would hedge on screens but then not get stuck out at the 3 point line and then hustle - and I mean hustle! - back to the paint and his man.

Yep! non-box score type stuff this team needs out of the 5 spot. Hope Luke takes note and starts playing D in a similar manner. Rooting for him to do just that, been through a lot with the program and he'll be key to any run we might put together to close out the season.

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Re: Does Heldt start the rest of the way?
« Reply #84 on: February 21, 2017, 11:17:40 PM »


 Wojo will play the Hot Hand.  So Matt starts, and Luke has a great game at PC
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Re: Does Heldt start the rest of the way?
« Reply #85 on: February 22, 2017, 04:59:56 AM »
does this game convince you that heldt is better than fish

Absolutely not. All it does is make more feel a little better about next year until Froling is eligible.

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Re: Does Heldt start the rest of the way?
« Reply #86 on: February 22, 2017, 06:05:29 AM »
Held clearly gives us a much better chance to win.  He doesn't make the mistakes that Fischer makes.  We are simply better with him on the floor.

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Re: Does Heldt start the rest of the way?
« Reply #87 on: February 22, 2017, 06:20:34 AM »
i'm not saying matt is the better player, but he very well could be the better player for this team if he can prove to be reliable for extended minutes.  anyone who works in the field of research will tell you that both qualitative and quantitative data are bias in both observation and interpretation.  we can all make a lot of judgments about players and coaches, but in the end all we can really grade them on is wins and losses.  what wojo has done has worked, i certainly appreciate that we know matt is going to bring it every night, and while he's just as susceptible to a bad night as luke is, you feel like at least he'll bring effort and intensity when struggling. 

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Re: Does Heldt start the rest of the way?
« Reply #88 on: February 22, 2017, 06:40:19 AM »
It's hard to argue that statistically, Luke is the better player.

However, we are 2-0 with Matt, and have won both games by huge margins.

These are the kind of problems we like to have.

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Re: Does Heldt start the rest of the way?
« Reply #89 on: February 22, 2017, 06:52:32 AM »
Heldt has made this an easy decision for Wojo.

You're 2-0 with him, and he's playing well. If he struggles, you have an option that pretty much any team in the country would like to have coming off the bench. Then, as the game progresses, you go with the guy who is playing better, giving you better matchups, staying out of foul trouble, etc.

Always, always, always good to have options.
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Re: Does Heldt start the rest of the way?
« Reply #90 on: February 22, 2017, 07:00:45 AM »
It's hard to argue that statistically, Luke is the better player.

However, we are 2-0 with Matt, and have won both games by huge margins.

These are the kind of problems we like to have.

I  argue with statistics all the time.  There is more to life than statistics.  If it were only statistics then decision making would be easy.  Decisions are what we do without statistics or in spite of them.

As I  said yesterday Matt is all about intangibles. 

Did you see the love of the coach, the team and the audience last night for the kid?  Did you see his smile?  PRICELESS

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Re: Does Heldt start the rest of the way?
« Reply #91 on: February 22, 2017, 07:09:43 AM »
.......and hasn't LF still fouled out the last two games in his limited playing time?

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Re: Does Heldt start the rest of the way?
« Reply #92 on: February 22, 2017, 07:15:08 AM »
.......and hasn't LF still fouled out the last two games in his limited playing time?

As Miles would say, "So What ".    As a team we have 10 fouls to give at the position, use them all.  We have been too timid giving fouls, as Mullin said, make them earn it.  Claim your space, good coaching that.

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Re: Does Heldt start the rest of the way?
« Reply #93 on: February 22, 2017, 07:20:59 AM »
Fouling on a hedged screen 35' from the basket or reaching on an obvious dunk for an and one, I certainly would not consider "making them earn it".
Who gives a sheet what Mullins says? Last time I checked he coaches the other team, not ours.

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Re: Does Heldt start the rest of the way?
« Reply #94 on: February 22, 2017, 08:16:50 AM »
Did you see the love of the coach, the team and the audience last night for the kid?  Did you see his smile?  PRICELESS

If that's what matters, then let's just bench Howard in favor of Cam Marotta. SMDH. I bet you bought the collectors edition of Rudy  ::)
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Re: Does Heldt start the rest of the way?
« Reply #95 on: February 22, 2017, 08:19:35 AM »
If that's what matters, then let's just bench Howard in favor of Cam Marotta. SMDH. I bet you bought the collectors edition of Rudy  ::)

I agree with Vogue on this one. Is your criticism a carry over from that really stupid thread he started earlier?

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Re: Does Heldt start the rest of the way?
« Reply #96 on: February 22, 2017, 08:22:12 AM »
I agree with Vogue on this one. Is your criticism a carry over from that really stupid thread he started earlier?

No. Last night was a great moment. I was absolutely cheering for Heldt and gave a screaming, standing ovation when he snagged his 10th rebound. But making long term decisions based on emotion over tangible facts is simply stupid.
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Re: Does Heldt start the rest of the way?
« Reply #97 on: February 22, 2017, 08:35:11 AM »
.......and hasn't LF still fouled out the last two games in his limited playing time?

Yes.  I believe Luke fouled out in 12 minutes against X and fouled out in 11 minutes against SJU.

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Re: Does Heldt start the rest of the way?
« Reply #98 on: February 22, 2017, 08:40:49 AM »
So how long until there's a discussion about playing Heldt at the 5 and Fishy at the 4?

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Re: Does Heldt start the rest of the way?
« Reply #99 on: February 22, 2017, 08:44:35 AM »
So how long until there's a discussion about playing Heldt at the 5 and Fishy at the 4?

Thats just asking for Hauser to play the 5 for the entire second half.